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Is the i5-4690K really that much better than the i5-4590?

Some people have told me that the i5-4690K is much better than the i5-4590 and i know that it may be faster a little but is it really worth the extra $40? And i have no intentions on overclocking this CPU on this build foe specific reasons. If i did get the i5-4590 would it be able to handle Skyrim on ultra and also high end games like Battlefield 4? If i am not going to be overclocking should i just get the i5-4690 non K version? or stick with the i5-4590. Also does the i5-4690 work with my motherboard below without needed BIOS updating? I am trying to save some money and to build a decent gaming PC that can handle those games. I want to stay in the $210 CPU price range if possible. Here is a link to my Motherboard and also my Graphics card for details below if needed.

Motheboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512&cm_re=ASRock_H97M_PRO4-_-13-157-512-_-Product

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127761&cm_re=R9_270X-_-14-127-761-_-Product

And if you guys need a comparison to save ya trouble here is a link also. I mainly want opinions of others before i just rely on CPU boss lol.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4690-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4590
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  1. If you overclock the k version it'll pull miles ahead. But you then also need a custom cooler for it eg coolermaster hyper 212 evo ($30).

    And the k will also support the current top line gpus - 290x and 780ti even sli/xfire of them.
  2. The 4690K is not that much better unless you are going to overclock it. The difference in them is basically the same percentage as the clock difference. Any modern I5 (except slow low energy ones) will keep up with the most powerful GPU's that are on the market.
  3. rolli59 said:
    The 4690K is not that much better unless you are going to overclock it. The difference in them is basically the same percentage as the clock difference. Any modern I5 (except slow low energy ones) will keep up with the most powerful GPU's that are on the market.


    Ok what about the diference between the i5-4690 and the i5-4590, both non K versions. And will the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Motherboard work with both of them if i chose one?
  4. i7Baby said:
    If you overclock the k version it'll pull miles ahead. But you then also need a custom cooler for it eg coolermaster hyper 212 evo ($30).

    And the k will also support the current top line gpus - 290x and 780ti even sli/xfire of them.


    Ok what about the diference between the i5-4690 and the i5-4590, both non K versions. And will the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Motherboard work with both of them if i chose one?
  5. If you're gaming on a 60hz monitor then meh, they're all good
  6. LucoTF said:
    If you're gaming on a 60hz monitor then meh, they're all good


    I am using a 32 inch HDTV via HDMI so will it be ok?
  7. Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    The 4690K is not that much better unless you are going to overclock it. The difference in them is basically the same percentage as the clock difference. Any modern I5 (except slow low energy ones) will keep up with the most powerful GPU's that are on the market.


    Ok what about the diference between the i5-4690 and the i5-4590, both non K versions. And will the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Motherboard work with both of them if i chose one?


    The board will and again the difference is only clock speed and will not be noticeable.
  8. rolli59 said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    The 4690K is not that much better unless you are going to overclock it. The difference in them is basically the same percentage as the clock difference. Any modern I5 (except slow low energy ones) will keep up with the most powerful GPU's that are on the market.


    Ok what about the diference between the i5-4690 and the i5-4590, both non K versions. And will the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Motherboard work with both of them if i chose one?


    The board will and again the difference is only clock speed and will not be noticeable.


    Thank you so much man, so will the i5-4590 be able to play Skyrim on ultra and maybe even BF4? Here is my GPU can you tell me the capability of it and if its good man? I am an automotive Technician and it really got me into it so i picked this hobby up lol.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127761&cm_re=R9_270X-_-14-127-761-_-Product
  9. The 270x is a nice, solid card but it's not a juggernaut or anything. An i5-4430 would be more than enough
  10. Save some money on your CPU and put it on the GPU for best performance imo
  11. i7Baby said:


    But if i got the 4590 will it work well with games like skyrim on ultra settings and maybe even BF4? Here is my GPU so you can check it out and tell me what ya think will it work good with it and everything?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127761&cm_re=R9_270X-_-14-127-761-_-Product
  12. LucoTF said:
    The 270x is a nice, solid card but it's not a juggernaut or anything. An i5-4430 would be more than enough

    So what your saying is as long as i have a decent CPU and a bad ass graphics card i ill do pretty good? So if i do get the i5-4590 it will kick ass? lol
  13. The GPU will work fine with the CPU but really a cheaper I5 with a stronger GPU like R9 280 or 280X would give better gaming performance.
  14. Ferrariassassin said:
    LucoTF said:
    The 270x is a nice, solid card but it's not a juggernaut or anything. An i5-4430 would be more than enough

    So what your saying is as long as i have a decent CPU and a bad ass graphics card i ill do pretty good? So if i do get the i5-4590 it will kick ass? lol


    The general idea is to throw money at the graphics card more than the CPU to get the most bang for your buck. If you're buying a 270x then the i5-4590 will be fine and you don't need to pay for anything better imo.
  15. rolli59 said:
    The GPU will work fine with the CPU but really a cheaper I5 with a stronger GPU like R9 280 or 280X would give better gaming performance.


    Also this.
  16. Best answer
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    The 4690K is not that much better unless you are going to overclock it. The difference in them is basically the same percentage as the clock difference. Any modern I5 (except slow low energy ones) will keep up with the most powerful GPU's that are on the market.


    Ok what about the diference between the i5-4690 and the i5-4590, both non K versions. And will the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Motherboard work with both of them if i chose one?


    The board will and again the difference is only clock speed and will not be noticeable.


    Thank you so much man, so will the i5-4590 be able to play Skyrim on ultra and maybe even BF4? Here is my GPU can you tell me the capability of it and if its good man? I am an automotive Technician and it really got me into it so i picked this hobby up lol.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127761&cm_re=R9_270X-_-14-127-761-_-Product



    I play BF4 with a 4-year old Core i5-750, and even that is fast enough to allow 60 FPS. So yeah, any Haswell Core i5 will be more than fine. Unless you get the Core i5-4690K (and overclock it), there's very little practical difference between the other i5-4xxx's. ±100 MHz here and there.

    Your GPU probably won't manage 60 FPS in that game without dropping down to medium/high-ish settings. You'll certainly be able to play it just fine, though.

    Skyrim on Ultra is nothing, unless you load it up with hundreds of graphics mods.
  17. rolli59 said:
    The GPU will work fine with the CPU but really a cheaper I5 with a stronger GPU like R9 280 or 280X would give better gaming performance.


    oxiide said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    The 4690K is not that much better unless you are going to overclock it. The difference in them is basically the same percentage as the clock difference. Any modern I5 (except slow low energy ones) will keep up with the most powerful GPU's that are on the market.


    Ok what about the diference between the i5-4690 and the i5-4590, both non K versions. And will the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Motherboard work with both of them if i chose one?


    The board will and again the difference is only clock speed and will not be noticeable.


    Thank you so much man, so will the i5-4590 be able to play Skyrim on ultra and maybe even BF4? Here is my GPU can you tell me the capability of it and if its good man? I am an automotive Technician and it really got me into it so i picked this hobby up lol.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127761&cm_re=R9_270X-_-14-127-761-_-Product



    I play BF4 with a 4-year old Core i5-750, and even that is fast enough to allow 60 FPS. So yeah, any Haswell Core i5 will be more than fine. Unless you get the Core i5-4690K (and overclock it), there's very little practical difference between the other i5-4xxx's. ±100 MHz here and there.

    Your GPU probably won't manage 60 FPS in that game without dropping down to medium/high-ish settings. You'll certainly be able to play it just fine, though.

    Skyrim on Ultra is nothing, unless you load it up with hundreds of graphics mods.


    See thats why i am building this PC because i am a HUUUUGE skyrim fan and i want to be able to use as many graphics mods on Skyrim and play as well as possible. I just do not want to go over $240 on a GPU. If you can suggest a good GPU here is my motherboard again if you need to look at it and i decided to buy the i5-4590 since its only $200 and the other ones are not worth it considering i am not overclocking.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512&cm_re=ASRock_H97M_PRO4-_-13-157-512-_-Product
  18. rolli59 said:


    Whats the first one? the link send me to a site that shows 100`s of GPU`s
  19. R9 280 from AMD and GTX760 from Nvidia. What brand and model is what you want to get but I would get this one http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100373l
  20. rolli59 said:


    The 760 and the r9 280 trade blows in gaming tests. Skyrim performance in this review is crazy similar:
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/05/19/amd-radeon-r9-280-review-feat-xfx/7

    I think it comes down to what brand you prefer, or if you have no preference then whatever is cheapest on the date of purchase - which is the R9 280 right now. (Personally I do prefer nvidia cards, I've had microstuttering issues with AMD in the past but it's definitely just a personal preference and I wouldn't push one brand over the other on anyone else).
  21. LucoTF said:
    rolli59 said:


    The 760 and the r9 280 trade blows in gaming tests. Skyrim performance in this review is crazy similar:
    http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/05/19/amd-radeon-r9-280-review-feat-xfx/7

    I think it comes down to what brand you prefer, or if you have no preference then whatever is cheapest on the date of purchase - which is the R9 280 right now. (Personally I do prefer nvidia cards, I've had microstuttering issues with AMD in the past but it's definitely just a personal preference and I wouldn't push one brand over the other on anyone else).

    Well i like Nvidia more but it is hard to find a good one under $240 that can even play Skyrim :(
  22. Ferrariassassin said:
    Well i like Nvidia more but it is hard to find a good one under $240 that can even play Skyrim :(


    Rolli already linked a few GTX 760s...

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n7602gd5oc

    ^$220 with free copy of Watch Dogs, or

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx760dc2oc2gd5

    ^$230 with a bit of a better cooling option

    The GTX 760 is a great card:

  23. Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    The GPU will work fine with the CPU but really a cheaper I5 with a stronger GPU like R9 280 or 280X would give better gaming performance.


    oxiide said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    The 4690K is not that much better unless you are going to overclock it. The difference in them is basically the same percentage as the clock difference. Any modern I5 (except slow low energy ones) will keep up with the most powerful GPU's that are on the market.


    Ok what about the diference between the i5-4690 and the i5-4590, both non K versions. And will the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Motherboard work with both of them if i chose one?


    The board will and again the difference is only clock speed and will not be noticeable.


    Thank you so much man, so will the i5-4590 be able to play Skyrim on ultra and maybe even BF4? Here is my GPU can you tell me the capability of it and if its good man? I am an automotive Technician and it really got me into it so i picked this hobby up lol.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127761&cm_re=R9_270X-_-14-127-761-_-Product



    I play BF4 with a 4-year old Core i5-750, and even that is fast enough to allow 60 FPS. So yeah, any Haswell Core i5 will be more than fine. Unless you get the Core i5-4690K (and overclock it), there's very little practical difference between the other i5-4xxx's. ±100 MHz here and there.

    Your GPU probably won't manage 60 FPS in that game without dropping down to medium/high-ish settings. You'll certainly be able to play it just fine, though.

    Skyrim on Ultra is nothing, unless you load it up with hundreds of graphics mods.


    See thats why i am building this PC because i am a HUUUUGE skyrim fan and i want to be able to use as many graphics mods on Skyrim and play as well as possible. I just do not want to go over $240 on a GPU. If you can suggest a good GPU here is my motherboard again if you need to look at it and i decided to buy the i5-4590 since its only $200 and the other ones are not worth it considering i am not overclocking.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512&cm_re=ASRock_H97M_PRO4-_-13-157-512-_-Product



    The R9 280 has the advantage of better memory bandwidth and another GB of VRAM. Skyrim with tons of graphics mods (specifically high-res textures and high poly count models) can start to really eat a lot of VRAM.

    Additionally, the R9 280 looks generally better-priced than the GTX 760 while performing very similarly, with some models on Newegg going for as low as $200 after sale and rebate. That would definitely be my pick.
  24. oxiide said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    The GPU will work fine with the CPU but really a cheaper I5 with a stronger GPU like R9 280 or 280X would give better gaming performance.


    oxiide said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    rolli59 said:
    The 4690K is not that much better unless you are going to overclock it. The difference in them is basically the same percentage as the clock difference. Any modern I5 (except slow low energy ones) will keep up with the most powerful GPU's that are on the market.


    Ok what about the diference between the i5-4690 and the i5-4590, both non K versions. And will the ASRock H97M Pro4 LGA 1150 Motherboard work with both of them if i chose one?


    The board will and again the difference is only clock speed and will not be noticeable.


    Thank you so much man, so will the i5-4590 be able to play Skyrim on ultra and maybe even BF4? Here is my GPU can you tell me the capability of it and if its good man? I am an automotive Technician and it really got me into it so i picked this hobby up lol.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127761&cm_re=R9_270X-_-14-127-761-_-Product



    I play BF4 with a 4-year old Core i5-750, and even that is fast enough to allow 60 FPS. So yeah, any Haswell Core i5 will be more than fine. Unless you get the Core i5-4690K (and overclock it), there's very little practical difference between the other i5-4xxx's. ±100 MHz here and there.

    Your GPU probably won't manage 60 FPS in that game without dropping down to medium/high-ish settings. You'll certainly be able to play it just fine, though.

    Skyrim on Ultra is nothing, unless you load it up with hundreds of graphics mods.


    See thats why i am building this PC because i am a HUUUUGE skyrim fan and i want to be able to use as many graphics mods on Skyrim and play as well as possible. I just do not want to go over $240 on a GPU. If you can suggest a good GPU here is my motherboard again if you need to look at it and i decided to buy the i5-4590 since its only $200 and the other ones are not worth it considering i am not overclocking.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512&cm_re=ASRock_H97M_PRO4-_-13-157-512-_-Product



    The R9 280 has the advantage of better memory bandwidth and another GB of VRAM. Skyrim with tons of graphics mods (specifically high-res textures and high poly count models) can start to really eat a lot of VRAM.

    Additionally, the R9 280 looks generally better-priced than the GTX 760 while performing very similarly, with some models on Newegg going for as low as $200 after sale and rebate. That would definitely be my pick.


    Thanks man :) I am kind of set on buying a SAPPHIRE DUAL-X 14-202-099 Radeon R9 280 3GB 384-Bit because it is only $200. I hope it will play SKyrim with some good HD and texture mods because that is all i have wanted for 5 years :/
  25. Dude if you can spend $200 can you spend $210?

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280dc2t3gd5

    Its slightly faster than the sapphire and overclocks better
  26. LucoTF said:
    Dude if you can spend $200 can you spend $210?

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280dc2t3gd5

    Its slightly faster than the sapphire and overclocks better

    Yea my bad man i dont wanna go over $240
  27. LucoTF said:
    Dude if you can spend $200 can you spend $210?

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280dc2t3gd5

    Its slightly faster than the sapphire and overclocks better


    And the one you sent me is $260, i know it may say $110 but if you actually go to the link it is $260
  28. Ferrariassassin said:
    LucoTF said:
    Dude if you can spend $200 can you spend $210?

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280dc2t3gd5

    Its slightly faster than the sapphire and overclocks better

    Yea my bad man i dont wanna go over $240


    hmm
  29. LucoTF said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    LucoTF said:
    Dude if you can spend $200 can you spend $210?

    http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280dc2t3gd5

    Its slightly faster than the sapphire and overclocks better

    Yea my bad man i dont wanna go over $240


    now we're talkin! its 3gb 280x vs 2gb gtx 770

    $230 - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-r9280xdc2t3gd5

    $239 - http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx770dc2oc2gd5

    I'm lookin at the 280x for that extra vram, and the 770 for awesome recording features (if that's your thing)


    Can yu send me a link to like new egg or something? Because when i go to the link you sent me and i go to a seller it is in the $300 and $400 range, and thanks man.
  30. LucoTF said:


    Hmm looks good, and can you explain to me where does it say what Vram it has and what the heck does core, clock, ets mean on GPUs?
  31. Ferrariassassin said:
    LucoTF said:


    Hmm looks good, and can you explain to me where does it say what Vram it has and what the heck does core, clock, ets mean on GPUs?



    it's 3gb, and if you think of a graphics card as a tiny PC then 'core clock' is the processor speed and 'memory clock' is the ram speed - higher is better in both cases. the black edition link is factory overclocked for better 'out of the box' performance
  32. LucoTF said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    LucoTF said:


    Hmm looks good, and can you explain to me where does it say what Vram it has and what the heck does core, clock, ets mean on GPUs?



    it's 3gb, and if you think of a graphics card as a tiny PC then 'core clock' is the processor speed and 'memory clock' is the ram speed - higher is better in both cases. the black edition link is factory overclocked for better 'out of the box' performance


    It has more core clock than the sapphire but the sapphire has something called boost clock. And ok :)
  33. Ferrariassassin said:
    It has more core clock than the sapphire but the sapphire has something called boost clock. And ok :)


    The sapphire has 850mhz core clock with 940mhz boost - this means it will push up to 940mhz by itself when needed. The memory (vram) clock is 5000mhz

    The xfx black has a 1000mhz core clock and 5200mhz memory clock - it's like the non 'black edition' version of the card but with the boost values locked in (the non BE has a 933mhz core/1000mhz boost and 5000mhz memory clock)

    It also appears that the price of the sapphire has gone up overnight?
  34. LucoTF said:
    Ferrariassassin said:
    It has more core clock than the sapphire but the sapphire has something called boost clock. And ok :)


    The sapphire has 850mhz core clock with 940mhz boost - this means it will push up to 940mhz by itself when needed. The memory (vram) clock is 5000mhz

    The xfx black has a 1000mhz core clock and 5200mhz memory clock - it's like the non 'black edition' version of the card but with the boost values locked in (the non BE has a 933mhz core/1000mhz boost and 5000mhz memory clock)

    Lol i guess it did sadly. And i may be forced to get a Nvidia GPU because everyone says AMD is the worst possible GPU in existance to use on skyrim, it also does not use AO

    It also appears that the price of the sapphire has gone up overnight?
  35. I don't know who this 'everyone' guy is but he sounds like a jerk. Both will work fine, and there are AO style mods for amd cards out there for skyrim...

    I love nvidia cards, but for your price point the r9280 is simply the better card
  36. LucoTF said:
    I don't know who this 'everyone' guy is but he sounds like a jerk. Both will work fine, and there are AO style mods for amd cards out there for skyrim...

    I love nvidia cards, but for your price point the r9280 is simply the better card


    Thanks man :) And its on the other posts where some people have said you can not force AO on skyrim. See i never really messed with this stuff so i go by what people, reviews, etc say. Haha and when i say everyone i mean a couple people people who posted on my other posts, my bad.
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