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Poettering pottery breaks Linux

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July 7, 2014 6:23:19 AM

Gents:

Considering upgrade from U_12.04 to U_14.04 when sys-manager presents the option. So I'm sensitive about opportunity costs vis installing a non-systemd OS_version.

http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/201...

In this post Poettering baldly states his new-init-replacement (for everything) **systemd** will require new kernels. Tail wags dog as we used to say. Anyrate does this imply an non-systemd U_14.04 is made non-updateable even before it is released to UBUNTU U_12.04 sys-lusrs ? Am I wasting my time with a dead-end OS_varient ? Yes or no ??

Serious issue ... are the (RH) GNOME gnomes trying to write Linux out of *nix and so destroy/outdate all, but their own cancerous init-code? Not Linux no more may be the meme I'm smelling, but honoring its writer do name-change to POETTERY cause it breaks-so-fast!

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July 7, 2014 8:05:34 AM

"New kernels" here is a relative phrase. As far as I can see this patch only affects really old kernels - pre 3.0 ones. Do you really use a kernel that old? If so you just continue using an old udev too. I'm guessing that this won't affect many people.
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July 7, 2014 9:24:23 PM

IJack:

Thanks for the concrete reference (pre-3.0 Linux kernels): I missed that in my reading. Both my current U12.04 systems use v_3.2.x Linux kernels. Yet as systemd gathers "strength" it's prudent to expect its demands on Linux kernel/apps interaction to grow .

I consider the extreme case: it grows so far and so fast that original systemd-consistent U_14.04 apps become orphans(?) no longer upgradeable; that is all upgraded apps require a Linux version with deep support for/dependence-on systemd.

In that case I should --- and I'm repeating my weak;y stated original question --- reject U_14.04, stay with U_12.04 and wait for the NEXT U_LTS release which will be systemd-based (and also non-X-Org).

Ijack said:
"New kernels" here is a relative phrase. As far as I can see this patch only affects really old kernels - pre 3.0 ones. Do you really use a kernel that old? If so you just continue using an old udev too. I'm guessing that this won't affect many people.


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