MSI Radeon HD 7770 GHZ Edition -> BSOD when gaming. Need Help/Options

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Good morning all, and TIA for reading this thread!

I built this computer about 8-9 months ago:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RXZjpg

and have been having some very intermittent Blue Screen of DEATH that points towards atikmpag.sys during the memory dump (Screen here: http://imgur.com/T95x4dW ). It happens at very infrequent and inopportune times when gaming (Counterstrike Global Offensive). The screen will freeze and the audio that immediately played at that time will stutter/repeat for ~5-10seconds and then the screen will display as shown above. I get a "System as recovered from a critical failure" message upon rebooting and I go on my merry way. I reboot the game and sometimes it will continue to play with no problems, sometimes it will fail again shortly. I cannot repeatably do an action and get the failure to occur, so it seems to be some form of instability.

I am not running any overclock or extra performance, just the standard hardware.

Running HWMonitor, temps dont reach past 55C, so overheating is not the issue.

CS:GO just released a new update and since then, the system seems much less stable. I will get 2-3 crashes during a 1 hour match and I just cant tolerate that sort of instability. I had gone ~3-4 months without any failure of the system and had wondered if the latest GPU driver update was the fix.

What I have done so far to troublehsoot:
I uninstalled the AMD Drivers through their AMD program and through Control panel. I found the most recent version of drivers through AMD and installed them again. I did NOT run any specific CCleaner or driver uninstall utility prior to re-installing, so that may be the next option.

I have also updated BIOS and UEFI to the most recent version and VGA adapter drivers are up to date according to ASROCK's available driver list.

I had done a lot of the Googles and saw that maybe it was memory instability, so I removed 1 of the RAM sticks and kept the other in Slot 1 and got failures. I switched sticks and still got failures, so either both sticks are bad or neither of them are bad and its something else.

I fully removed the MSI GPU and played on the OBVideo and while it "worked" it was horribly under powered. I was not able to get anything resembling good performance without a GPU. I played ~2hours without the GPU and didnt see any failures, but that makes sense if it is the MSI driver's issue (it wouldnt be used during OBV function).

Last night I found an older Nvidia Galaxy card from my old tower, plugged it in, updated drivers and it seems to run OK. I played for about 30min without issue and it felt SO much better than the OBV, but the graphics cant be turned up past "LOW" on all settings or the system just bogs down.

Can anyone help me figure out what the next step is? I have run Furmark for HOURS without a failure as well as memtest/CPU stress testing with good results.

If I cant find a suitable fix for this soon, I may just spend an additional $130 and pick up an NVidia Geforce GTX 750Ti and hope the drivers for that are more stable. Its a fantastic card for the money, but the 7770 GHZ is also at the top of its price point for performance.

Again, sorry for the long wind, but I figured i would get as much info into here to start with as I could.

Regards,
Derek
 
Solution
try this and where I say new card just remove and reseat your card and at the amd driver page read the footnote on the file you have to remove manually also you may want to try the 13.4 or 13.12 driver over the 14.xx

start computer as normal-- got to add/remove programs--- uninstall all your old cards drivers and add on programs for the card--- shut down and then reboot back to desktop normally [ i dont like to do safemode here cause it my hide an issue ] and it should be running on the windows default driver to check-- go to device manager-display- right click your card [it may just say generic vga ] - property's - driver - and see that driver provider is microsoft- if so shut down and turn off psu switch unplug it wait a min or so...
try this and where I say new card just remove and reseat your card and at the amd driver page read the footnote on the file you have to remove manually also you may want to try the 13.4 or 13.12 driver over the 14.xx

start computer as normal-- got to add/remove programs--- uninstall all your old cards drivers and add on programs for the card--- shut down and then reboot back to desktop normally [ i dont like to do safemode here cause it my hide an issue ] and it should be running on the windows default driver to check-- go to device manager-display- right click your card [it may just say generic vga ] - property's - driver - and see that driver provider is microsoft- if so shut down and turn off psu switch unplug it wait a min or so push the power button like you normally do to start the computer to see if its discharged-- [if the computer comes on for like a second or two and dies it now discharged] then remove your old card and install the new card as proper install instructions show for your new card-- when you got everything in order and installed correctly [monitor and all] put power back to the psu turn on switch start up computer normally and let it boot to desktop and it should be running on windows default drivers if it looks good with no issues install your new cards drivers and reboot as prompted. and hopefully all will be good to go. i like to download the driver from nvidia/amd to a file on the desktop and install it from there

 
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DPeter85

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Thank you for the reply. Do you suggest running the computer on OBV while I am doing this or not? What program would you suggest to ensure that the driver has been fully removed? Do you know if i can manually just delete the atikmpag.sys file if its still there once i uninstall the driver?
 
should not need to windows has default generic vga drivers built in and your card should work on that to do most all light desktop tasks so be sure you running on your card and not the on board go to AMD and download the driver to a folder on your desktop and install it from there

if the amd catelist install manager is still showing in your programs and features click on it and uninstall and then you should get a pop up saying ''remove all amd stuff'' then yes as it uninstalls the screen should flash/blink and this has reverted the card to the windows default driver and when done you will need to re boot when it reboots and your back to desktop open the desktop file with the driver you downloaded from AMD and double click the amd icon to start the install of the new driver follow prompts and restart
 

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Also, is there a place i can find older versions of the driver? Or should I use the Beta drivers from AMD? Ill try this again when I get home today.
 

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The issue is only when i run games, but its really all i use the computer for. I hardly watch videos and barely stream music. Ill try that also. What does the DX9 software do?



 

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I havent had a chance to try this yet, but I will shortly. Thanks so much so far. Ill try fully uninstalling the video drivers and installing 13.4. If that doesnt work, ill try DX9 and further, if that doesnt work, ill likely just purchase an Nvidia card for ~$125 and hope that solves the issue.
 
I don't know what the deal is weather NVidia or AMD with these driver installs and most issues most time I think they don't read the footnotes on the correct process and then they add all that bloatware that comes on there driver disk or download stuff for overclocking or what ever or do the auto up date thing that is never in the proper steps in the footnotes as far as I know that card and board you got should work well and I think if you get it back to a clean fresh install just like the first time you ever put a card on the board and manually installed the AMD driver [ccc] it should work just fine unless the card is defective.
 

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Got a chance to uninstall the drivers as well as CCC last night and got it to the "Standard VGA Adapter" driver in the Device Manager section. I then searched my C drive for atikmpag.sy and still found files associated with them so I decided to just delete them. I then ran the 13.4 AMD driver installer and while it said there was an issue installing the driver during the process, it seems to have installed fine according to the log they provide at the end. I played about 1.5hrs of CSGO and didnt have a single issue. Getting great FPS on max settings at the resolution i am used to, but a single game isnt necessarily an indicator of success. However, it is significantly better than the 3x crashes i had during a single game prior.

Thanks for the help so far! I will update you in the next day or so after I get a chance to play more but it seems to have done the trick! I will keep it at the 13.4 driver version for now i guess.
 
heres something I found out about a month ago I went to amd to get a older driver [12.8] to do something downloaded it from amd went to install it and the ccc did not work so I went back and got the one below it installed it and there was no device driver in it but had everything else so I went back and got another one same thing ,did not work so all there drivers below 13.4 had some kind of issue it makes me wonder if AMD brok there older drivers to keep you from using them so I found a old card dick with the 12.8 installed it from the dick and it worked fine .. one thing is for sure I believe this AMD card may be my last I've done stopped using there desktop chips due to all the crap I had with AM3+ and for the first time ever I went intel with this new build and all's good with it
 

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Well I played another 2ish hours yesterday and got 1 BSOD again... I will try to clean and update the drivers to the 13.9 version but if this doesnt work, I am just going to buy an NVidia card... Ill keep an eye out for sales or great deals. Thanks for the help thus far, but im starting to wonder if its possibly a hardware problem with the card. I may try using my old Galaxy card for a while just to see if I get any failures with that, which would indicate another issue somewhere else, but if I can play ~3+hrs without a crash on a different card, theres something wrong with the card or AMD drivers for sure.
 

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Installed the GPU last night, updated drivers and played for over 3hours without issue. Looks to be pretty good thus far! I really wonder if there are just some weird incompatibility issues with the AMD drivers and other drivers on my machine.
 

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