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Upgrade to FX8350 or i5 4670 and new mobo?

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July 7, 2014 8:17:18 AM

I got a gaming PC last year and I feel that I made a mistake of buying an AMD processor. It works fine for me but when I upgrade I won't get much of a performance increase from my current CPU. I feel that Intel should have been the way I went, but I went for the cheaper build. I currently have a FX 6300 CPU. I'm looking to upgrade it to a FX 8350 or get an i5 4670 with a new motherboard. What would be the better decision? Or would a new graphics card be better/a different part?
Also could I buy an SSD and transfer Windows 7 onto it from my hard drive?

SPECS:
CPU: AMD FX 6300 3.5ghz
MOBO: MSI 970A-G43
RAM: 8gb G. Skill Ripjaws 1600
STORAGE: 1tb WD Blue 7200rpm
GPU: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2gb
CASE: CM HAF 912
PSU: Corsair CX 500w

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July 7, 2014 8:22:28 AM

What is bothering you? Is the PC not responsive enough overall? Is the gaming performance bad?
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July 7, 2014 8:30:54 AM

What's your budget? I'd go with a new intel cpu and motherboard, but I don't know if that's possible since I don't know your budget.

Since you say it's slow, are you talking about pure gaming or boot times? Get a SSD if it's boot times.
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July 7, 2014 8:44:27 AM

TechyInAZ said:
What's your budget? I'd go with a new intel cpu and motherboard, but I don't know if that's possible since I don't know your budget.

Since you say it's slow, are you talking about pure gaming or boot times? Get a SSD if it's boot times.


It's fast enough when I'm not playing games. When I play games it lags every now and then and it irritates me. For example, Chivalry lags a lot sometimes depending on the map and makes it unplayable occasionally(GPU problem, upgrade later). Minecraft, I got great fps when I first got the computer averaging around 150-200 but now it lags and freezes sometimes and averages around 50-100fps. I don't know why it's decreased so quickly, new worlds are very laggy when generating the world. Back on topic, I have the i5 4670k and MSI Z87-G45 Gaming motherboard picked out. It costs $360 and I've heard Intel CPUs perform better since they have hyperthreading. That's probably my price range.
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July 7, 2014 8:48:06 AM

Yeah intel is better as of right now.

Since you want to upgrade, go with a i5 4590 and a H97 Gigabyte, Asus, MSI motherboard.
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July 7, 2014 8:50:38 AM

Eduello said:
What is bothering you? Is the PC not responsive enough overall? Is the gaming performance bad?


Gaming is fine, just gets laggy sometimes. I feel that the 6300 didn't do a good job with being future proof. I've heard Intels are better at being future proof.
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July 7, 2014 8:55:16 AM

Really? it struggles to play chivalry? somethings wrong there, thats a DX9 game plays on much lower spec systems easy.
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July 7, 2014 9:01:38 AM

RobCrezz said:
Really? it struggles to play chivalry? somethings wrong there, thats a DX9 game plays on much lower spec systems easy.


Depending on the map and amount of players in one spot. When in a little 1v1 fight it stutters a little. I know its a GPU issue and I could always turn down the settings but I feel that it can do better. I plan on saving for a GTX 770 later this year
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July 7, 2014 9:02:39 AM

The issues you are having with gaming is the GPU (and possibly HDD if it is fragmented/wear and tear). You could upgrade to the FX-8350. To upgrade to the 9000 series would require another motherboard.

It sound more to me that you are allowing your feelings that are being influenced by what you read and hear influence your opinions on your current build. Contrary to popular belief, Intel CPUs are NOT light years ahead of AMD. I benchmark while gaming, and there is not any 5-minute benchmark (not 90 seconds tests that websites use), where my average, max and min FPS are exactly the same. They vary wildly even in the same game depending on the map, load times, user actions, etc. Also, your 6 core processor is far more "future proof" in gaming due to the multiple cores. And the i5 does NOT hyperthread. So you have 4 cores/4 thread. Currently, you have 6 cores/6 threads.

So, if you want an Intel build because that's all you read about or its what your friends have or keep telling you what to buy, then pay for the brand. Other than that, upgrade to an SSD and a new GPU instead!

The CPU is the fastest component in any system and the CPU and/or mobo should be the LAST component upgraded (especially if you are using it mainly for gaming). If you are expecting an i5 to run circles around your current build, you are going to be sorely disappointed. However, they are still great processors, but so is your FX-6300! LOL
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July 7, 2014 9:07:52 AM

BakedPotato65 said:
RobCrezz said:
Really? it struggles to play chivalry? somethings wrong there, thats a DX9 game plays on much lower spec systems easy.


Depending on the map and amount of players in one spot. When in a little 1v1 fight it stutters a little. I know its a GPU issue and I could always turn down the settings but I feel that it can do better. I plan on saving for a GTX 770 later this year


Your 7850 should run it with ease. I used to run it totally smooth on a 1gb 560 Ti!
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July 7, 2014 9:11:33 AM

An SSD will not actually change your in game performance. While it will allow for very quick booting, loading of applications, level loading, switching zones in an MMO or things along that line, your actual in game FPS and responsiveness won't actually change (except in a few cases where the game is horribly designed and loads assets causing the game to freeze for a moment... but that's more poor coding than performance of your machine).

Depending on the games you play and at what resolution and settings would probably determine if the CPU or GPU is what is causing most of the issue. For instance if you play single thread heavy games like MMORPG style like WoW, Rift, or similar then probably CPU is your best bet. Though if you play modern GPU heavy games like FPS games then it might make more sense for GPU since at normal resolutions the GPU generally is the performance issue and they will use as much GPU power as you can throw at it.

A nice test to help would be to get FRAPS running and log your min/max/average frame times with a few of your games. Run through a few play sessions with anti aliasing turned off and then again with it turned up quite a bit. If you notice that your min, max, and average all fall by similar percentages then it's likely that your video card is the slow piece. However, if you notice that the max and average drop by a significant percentage but your min numbers stay about the same then that points to the CPU being the culprit. The logic here being that when the CPU is having trouble keeping up and feeds the graphics card a low number of frames, the card has plenty of time to spend running the anti aliasing since it's going to be waiting around for frame data anyway.



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