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So i decided to build a new PC, felt like i wanted a refreshing new shiny computer, but im in a bit of a situation trying to pick the best components for MY PC, i Multi-task and play new games on it, but i want to start using my PC for gaming more than my xbox.

Im not looking for THE BEST graphics card or 32gb of RAM just yet but i do want my system to allow expansion so that i can add to it in the next year or 2.

Heres my first build
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/j4JVmG

Its on the pricey side so im hoping i can search around and grind a hundread or two off from it.

But i want opinions, and i also want to know if it would be worth going to the i7 rather than the i5? i read its just a waste of money but if im future proofing it would it be worth the investment
 
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Looks like a solid build for gaming, especially if your coming from a console as you will notice a huge difference.

I will say you do not need a closed water cpu cooler. there some cheap aftermarket air coolers that will do the job fantastically at a fraction of the price.
You have an Intel based build so the cost cant exactly be reduced by much at all, however I would consider a strong 750W+ PSU if you want future proof expansion (SLI/XFire)

But in all fairness I would say great picks and have a great time with the finished product.

Also i7's for massive computational applications are perfect, but for games and casual use the i5 will have more power behind it than you will use.

Also 32GB RAM? for Gaming? never going to be needed...

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Looks like a solid build for gaming, especially if your coming from a console as you will notice a huge difference.

I will say you do not need a closed water cpu cooler. there some cheap aftermarket air coolers that will do the job fantastically at a fraction of the price.
You have an Intel based build so the cost cant exactly be reduced by much at all, however I would consider a strong 750W+ PSU if you want future proof expansion (SLI/XFire)

But in all fairness I would say great picks and have a great time with the finished product.

Also i7's for massive computational applications are perfect, but for games and casual use the i5 will have more power behind it than you will use.

Also 32GB RAM? for Gaming? never going to be needed so don't worry about that. I'll give you a stuffed gold bear if you ever use your full 16GB with gaming use.
 
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You are sacrificing allot on gpu performance by spending more on an overclocking rig. The gtx 660 is not a good choice at that price point. An R9 270X would be faster. If you drop to 8gb ram you can probably get an R9 280X with the extra cash

Their are also better quality psu's out their
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The only reason why i went with the closed water cpu cooler is i have the exact same one in my current PC i just love it is all, its so quiet and easy.

im doing a uni course on application development, reckon the i5 can handle everything im going to throw at it?

The 32Gb is a future plan ha ha, 16Gb is plenty i know ha ha
 

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as Scremin34Egl said the graphics card (now I have looked through prices and spec) you would benefit from the R9 270x (R9 280x if you can)

The i5 I believe would be more than enough even with application development, it contends (and sometimes wins) against a i7 3770k.
 

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Right, swapped out for the R9 270x (might go with the 280x depends on money) does it matter who the manufacture of the card is? i found an MSI one for a decent price
Ive also swapped to the xfx 650w as suggested
What do you mean my overclocking rig? what have i got wrong here ha ha
 

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Overclocking Rig meaning your CPU, Motherboard, cooler, RAM etc are all capable of letting you overclock very well, this does not mean you have to at all.

Your new GPU and CPU choices will give you a long life from the system, you can probably add another R9 270X when you feel you need more graphics power.
 

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When I meant overclocking rig, I meant your choice of components like the unlocked cpu, Z97 mobo and the watercooler which is more suited for overclocking. For budget builders usually it's best to go for non oc components so that the extra money can be put towards the graphics card, but hey if you can afford it then go for it. You'll probably only see the benefits in the future when your cpu starts to age and you need to get some life out of it. I still think the watercooler is unnecessary and an aircooler would fine

I would also push for an R9 280X and if you drop your ram to 8gb's you could probably get it
 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£157.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.25 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£111.56 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£56.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£59.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£36.00 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280X 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (£203.14 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Corsair 450D ATX Mid Tower Case (£89.99 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£60.06 @ CCL Computers)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer (£12.76 @ CCL Computers)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£26.87 @ Aria PC)
Total: £839.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Cheaper than your old build with a much faster graphics card
 

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I'd say this build looks a lot better but perhaps you can switch out the mobo for an asrock z87 extreme 4? its a bit cheaper but otherwise solid build.
 

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if anyone else can confirm the asrock z87 extreme 4? by all means if its going to have the future proof and performance requirments im open to change, and ill ditch the water cooling, would it be better to take the water cooler off of mine now and put that cpu cooler on my old rig (as its being sold to a friend)

Also as far as optical drives go i only want it for the odd disc, you know how it is with computing now its all downloads, is this optical drive fine that i mentioned?
 

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If that watercooler is in good condition, sure why not

I would still stick with the Z97 mobo mainly because it's the newer chipset and they are around the same price as the Z87 boards.

For the optical drive, any cheapy will do, no one really cares
 

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i might have the opportunity to buy a Club3d AMD Radeon 7990, any good?
i do have two monitors so the single monitor port looks like an issue, or am i missing something?
 

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It's definitely good but an overkill for single monitor 1080p gaming and wouldn't scale well in some games. You will also need an 800W+ psu. I don't see how you can game on two monitors as it seems awkward especially in fps games and most games don't support it

If you are however going for a three monitor setup then the 7990 should serve well

How much are you paying for it ?
 

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I dont game on two monitors, i use a single monitor and just leave the other one on the desktop, i mainly use it for multitasking and when im doing work but i couldnt go back to single monitor so i dont like the idea of getting rid of one of them. that specific card only has 1 port for a monitor which i find odd.

£200 is what i can get it for
 

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200 pounds is extremely low for a card that powerful even second hand you wont get it at that price. It must be used or something wrong with it ?, I would be careful

It should have one dvi and four display ports. If you need to connect your second monitor, you can buy an adaptor
 

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So it's brand new ?, I would snag it for that price :D

If you do get it, you will need a beefier power supply, something like this
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Remember those are dual 7970's on a single board