Devil's Canyon or Haswell-E?

xaephod · Jul 9, 2014

I am looking to upgrade from my current build of an I5-2500K, 16gigs or ram, and a HD-7970Ghz. I was waiting for the next big thing from Intel to come out, namely Haswell, but the upgrade didn't really seem worth it. So, as a gamer (Mostly Planetside 2, BF4, etc), I am wondering which path I should take. I saw the new Z97 boards mostly just improve storage which I don't care about.

So, Haswell-E or Devil's Canyon? I NEED to be getting a min of 60fps in any game I play on max setting, period.

P.S. Do you think the 7970ghz is worth keeping? It was tops when I bought it.

Thanks!

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xaephod · Jul 10, 2014

So, don't upgrade the cpu? Or wait for the next cpu generation? I figure they will release some high end maxwell gpus soon.

techtechie · Jul 10, 2014

at what res are you playing on?

ranjan82 · Jul 10, 2014

I'm curious as to what gave you the idea that 1150 is faster/better given that fact.

The only advantages 1150 Haswell chips would have is fewer cores would require less heat dissipation, albeit not necessarily be easier to cool (TIM problem) and iGPU possibly being used for compute tasks (not particularly relevant to gaming, as we'll have a beefy dGPU anyway), otherwise Haswell-E has 2 to 4 more Haswell cores (4-8 more threads) to process with, as well as more than double the PCI-e 3.0 lanes (40 vs. 16), and quad channel DDR4 (vs. dual channel DDR3) to round it out

In games that use less than 4 cores, the 1150 will undoubtedly be more cost effective, in games that use more than 4 cores (or if you're looking to run more than 2 GPUs), the old s2011 platform is still the undisputed king, which will be supplanted by s2011-3
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xaephod · Jul 10, 2014

1920x1200, max settings.

Andrew Buck · Jul 10, 2014

Devil's Canyon is fine. You don't need a six-core or eight-core HT CPU for gaming. A 5670K or 4690K would be great.

techtechie · Jul 10, 2014

take a look at this thread from over at [H] (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1825408) scroll down a bit and read the one comment with a picture

xaephod · Jul 14, 2014

So, in reality, I should just get a new GPU?

techtechie · Jul 14, 2014

at what res are you playing at? im sure an upgrade wont hurt for future purposes but for now i think you should be fine.

xaephod · Jul 15, 2014

1920x1200. Need ultra settings at 60 fps min.

techtechie · Jul 15, 2014

my guess would be the 7970 would get stretched a bit. on the cpu front im not really educated to know what will do and what wont. i just know i play watch dogs at high textures with 45-60 fps with 7950 and an i5 3570 which runs at 70-80% while playing at 1080p

Andrew Buck · Jul 26, 2014

techtechie :

You should look into the R9 280 or R9 280X. They are 7950s and 7970s with better performance. You could max out any game at playability with either card.

xaephod · Jul 30, 2014

R9-280X is a 7970 ghz with a 50mhz reduction in peak clock rate, so why would I want to get one of those if the 7970ghz is a faster card?

DubbleClick · Jul 30, 2014

The cost difference between devils canyon and haswell e (with x99 motherboard and new ram) surely isn't worth the estimated extra performance for gaming. Noone knows how DDR4 ram and the new CPU's will be priced and noone knows comparisons yet.
So in the end, going with devils canyon now won't be something you regret. Although, for most games for 60fps on ultra the GPU might be more important than the CPU. So you might either want to get another 7970 (to crossfire) or sell your 7970 and buy a 290x or even 295x (if you shit money).
Obviously only if your PSU is strong enough for that.

Andrew Buck · Aug 1, 2014

xaephod :

The 280X can be overclocked to that and is cheaper.

klepp0906 · Oct 20, 2014

xaephod :

unless your playing at a lower reso or playing older games you can toss your "Period" out the window.

also between those 2 chips - you will see roughly 0 difference fps wise

Using a 4790 and 4 titans im able to get over 60fps in everything but the most demanding games (metro etc) and would probably have a buffer if i played at 1600p or so, however at 4k or greater... yea its just not gonna happen with 1 or 2 gpus and either of those chips.

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