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July 10, 2014 10:02:27 AM

If i buy this PC off the internet can i then add a £300-£450 graphics card and make it run ultra on games?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-A8-4-2Ghz-Ultra-Fast-Quad...

also if i add some more fans, wher do they connect to on the motherboard on this PC? I cant see it :/ 

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July 10, 2014 10:05:06 AM

it is not an ultra fast quad-cor since it is an APU A8 but we don't know which aPU it is ... but yeah you should probably be able to add a graphic card on it but not something very high-end since this APU isnt very strong
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July 10, 2014 10:11:06 AM

No. I can guarantee you such a cheap system will have used marginal parts, such as a PSU-shaped object that would be imminently unfit for purpose, especially to power ANY graphics card needing a PCIe power connection.
And, as pierrerock points out, it uses an APU, which does not have a particularly strong CPU component.
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July 10, 2014 10:44:44 AM

i need a £240 build

and the psu should support graphics card right?
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July 10, 2014 11:11:04 AM

You need a PSU that can support a graphics card, yes. Keep in mind that even a decent 300W PSU is enough for a HD7750, GTX750, or GTX750Ti, none of which need a PCIe power cable.
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July 10, 2014 11:31:30 AM

Onus said:
You need a PSU that can support a graphics card, yes. Keep in mind that even a decent 300W PSU is enough for a HD7750, GTX750, or GTX750Ti, none of which need a PCIe power cable.


the company dont display the actual PSU make.

But i was planning on installing a gtx 660, would i be able to? Im just worried about the gtx 660 slots on motherboard and the power supply for it.

I suppose i could always change the Power supply right?
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July 10, 2014 11:37:19 AM

You would need to replace the PSU, otherwise that ought to work. A quality 500W PSU would be sufficient, such as Seasonic, XFX, or Antec.
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July 10, 2014 11:43:03 AM

Onus said:
You would need to replace the PSU, otherwise that ought to work. A quality 500W PSU would be sufficient, such as Seasonic, XFX, or Antec.



Could you add me on skype: ozar99
Or steam: oikl90

Shall i buy a corsair 600W PSU when i want to upgrade to a GTX 660 and new PSU instead of the one what the PC comes with
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July 10, 2014 11:55:13 AM

Cheap Corsair PSUs are built with inferior Samxon capacitors that do not tolerate heat well and tend to fail early.
I've not been using Steam lately, and I have been loading Skype only for specific conversations with family or friends.
I'm not trying to be unfriendly or uncooperative (I enjoy helping people), but those two methods are not really good ways to reach me. My response times during the day also tend to be bad, as I'm at work and my first obligation, obviously, is to my employer.
The best place to post questions is right here on the forums, where there are plenty of knowledgeable, helpful people, and peer review typically prevents any truly bad advice from going unchallenged (and Moderators keep that polite).
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July 10, 2014 12:04:57 PM

Onus said:
Cheap Corsair PSUs are built with inferior Samxon capacitors that do not tolerate heat well and tend to fail early.
I've not been using Steam lately, and I have been loading Skype only for specific conversations with family or friends.
I'm not trying to be unfriendly or uncooperative (I enjoy helping people), but those two methods are not really good ways to reach me. My response times during the day also tend to be bad, as I'm at work and my first obligation, obviously, is to my employer.
The best place to post questions is right here on the forums, where there are plenty of knowledgeable, helpful people, and peer review typically prevents any truly bad advice from going unchallenged (and Moderators keep that polite).


Ok, so if i buy a PSU what is compatible with a graphics card e.g GTX 660, i can install this, and it will all fit in the case ok?

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July 10, 2014 12:37:55 PM

It should fit, yes. Keep in mind that the system you're buying does NOT include an operating system, so add that cost as well.
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July 10, 2014 12:51:19 PM

Onus said:
It should fit, yes. Keep in mind that the system you're buying does NOT include an operating system, so add that cost as well.


I have a win 7 disk so thats no worrys.

But are you 100% sure it will fit?


Which one shall i buy aswell:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Quad-Core-8GB-1TB-...
or
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Quad-Core-8GB-1TB-...


Im thinking the 1st one, because its got the fan at the front so the cooling could be decent, and will i be able to install the GTX 660 and a new PSU in both of these PCS?

And which PC would you choose 1 or 2?

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July 10, 2014 12:56:42 PM

The second one has a better motherboard; that is the one I would choose. It also appears to have a front fan.
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July 10, 2014 1:02:12 PM

Onus said:
The second one has a better motherboard; that is the one I would choose. It also appears to have a front fan.



So what PSU for a decent price shall i replace with that gaming PC? and will it still connect everything else all ok, and a psu i need for the graphics card

so please find me a PSU what i could use what will connect everything ok, and also will a gtx 660 fit in the case?
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July 10, 2014 1:17:43 PM

A GTX660 is not a huge card, and should fit fine.
Where can you buy, and what is your budget for the PSU? As I mentioned, a good 500W PSU from Seasonic, XFX, or Antec would be solid choices. It would have all the connectors you would need.
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July 10, 2014 2:07:02 PM

Onus said:
A GTX660 is not a huge card, and should fit fine.
Where can you buy, and what is your budget for the PSU? As I mentioned, a good 500W PSU from Seasonic, XFX, or Antec would be solid choices. It would have all the connectors you would need.


ok thanks, i might just buy a 8GB Ram A10-7850K Khaveri i think its called, apparently its AMDs best cpu/amu ever,
but im confused if it has the best intergrated graphics the 7850, where are they? built in the core? becuase all their is in the box is the core and the fan right?

http://gyazo.com/5e72f47b52572ad4213e11d3a337ebbb
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July 10, 2014 2:10:48 PM

Media sharing sites are blocked at work, but yes, an APU combines a CPU and GPU on the same die. It is probably about as powerful as a HD7730 or maybe HD7750.
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July 10, 2014 2:18:30 PM

Onus said:
Media sharing sites are blocked at work, but yes, an APU combines a CPU and GPU on the same die. It is probably about as powerful as a HD7730 or maybe HD7750.




http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fast-AMD-A10-7850K-4-0GHz-Qua...

Its a AMD A10-7850K QUAD CORE, If i bought a PC with that, the cpu has the 7850k graphics intergrated right? well if so, apparently they are nearly as good as a gtx 660.

Also if i get this CPU with the intergrated graphics (a10-7850) will it be decent for DayZ maybe ArmA 3 on medium or low smoothly using its intergrated GFX.

And can this eBay PC what i linked can i upgrade it: like add a new graphics card into it and push it up to ultra because the pc specs are good

And if i do add a new graphics card, will it automatically disable the 7850 intergrated graphics?

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July 10, 2014 2:21:08 PM

No no no...the discrete HD7850 is nearly as good as a GTX660; the integrated GPU in the A10 is nowhere near as strong.
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July 10, 2014 2:43:20 PM

Onus said:
No no no...the discrete HD7850 is nearly as good as a GTX660; the integrated GPU in the A10 is nowhere near as strong.

what do you mean the intergrated 7850 is not as near as strong?
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July 10, 2014 2:51:23 PM

The integrated graphics of an APU are not the same as a discrete card with the same numbering. The APU has R7-class graphics, likely between a R7 240 and R7 250.
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July 10, 2014 2:54:30 PM

Onus said:
The integrated graphics of an APU are not the same as a discrete card with the same numbering. The APU has R7-class graphics, likely between a R7 240 and R7 250.



Okay lets go step by step:

1) If i buy this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fast-AMD-A10-7850K-4-0GHz-Qua...

What settings will it do? For games like DayZ , Arma 3

2) If i add a GTX 660 into that PC, and switch the intergrated 7850 OFF, what settings will it do, and would you say adding this graphics card will be good for gaming? And would the GTX 660 Fit into the case and install ok?


Thanks for the help by the way
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July 10, 2014 3:10:58 PM

1. It will play on low-medium settings.
2. I would expect high settings on most games, with likely as many on "ultra" as on "medium" (e.g. no AA).
The card should fit, and be compatible. You'll need the PSU upgrade FIRST, or you may blow the stock one (it is likely overrated junk).
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July 10, 2014 3:21:44 PM

Ok thanks,

1) if I buy that PC off ebay all I need to do is add the gtx 660 to make it good? And buy a new psu what's compatible? Link please I just need to make sure the psu will connect everything alright

2) would you say it's worth £280 then adding a gtx 660

3) do you think the processor is good for gaming The a10-7850 with intergrated but using a gtx 660?

4) so if I install a new psu and gtx 660 it will be a good pc?
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July 10, 2014 3:58:06 PM

1. You must FIRST add a new PSU before you install the GTX660. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRAND-NEW-XFX-TS-Series-P1550... would be a good choice.
2. Building your own would be a better deal; you'd get higher quality and/or faster parts. I don't think this deal sucks (if you're not interested in building), but it is definitely a little suboptimal.
3. The CPU portion of an APU is weaker than a comparable CPU-only solution, like an i3. Even so, most games are more dependent on the graphics card than on the CPU, so it should be "sufficient" for most games.
4. A little suboptimal, and a little more expensive than it needs to be, but it will play games on "enjoyable" settings.
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July 11, 2014 12:08:39 AM

I did come up with a build £300 no more

But i want to use a mid tower but the motherboard is microatx

8gb ram
1th hdd
DVD drive

Processor I'm not sure please help pick, and preferably

Gtx 660

550w psu
1 extra fan


I did it in pcpartpicker but I'm just worried that it won't all screw in a case alright and all fit together and I'm worried about the USB and mic/sound jacks on the case won't connect to the motherboard correctly

So build me a £270 no more?
The gtx 660 is only £100

Thanks
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July 11, 2014 3:00:56 AM

Provide your PCPartPicker link.
A microATX motherboard will fit in a mid tower ATX case.
Make sure the RAM you select is a 2x4GB kit rather than 1x8GB.
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