Building a computer for my son around the new i5 4590.

MartinandDad

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I'm overwhelmed with all the combinations, so I'm interested in suggestions from people with some experience. What are appropriate GPU and motherboard to use in combination with the Intel i5 4590? My son wants a nice gaming computer and I want it to last him a few years. I'm assuming also two 4gb sticks of ram and a SSD, but mainly looking for mobo and GPU advice.

PS not interested in overclocking
 
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Not that much for the mobo, the ones I recommended are fine.

Andrew Buck

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An H97 mobo like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128712&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= is great as well as the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= for Micro ATX. For the GPU, this would be great: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127790&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
 

MartinandDad

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Andrew, thanks for the specific recommendations, I guess I need to look up micro ATX now! EasyLover, looking at a budget of 800-1000, cheap peripherals included. I'm assuming I'll need to spend between 150-200 each for both mobo and GPU.
 

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Not that much for the mobo, the ones I recommended are fine.
 
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Check this build pl:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB Dual Superclocked ACX Video Card ($224.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Microsoft Keyboard 200 Wired Standard Keyboard ($7.78 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse 200 for Business Wired Optical Mouse ($4.85 @ NCIX US)
Total: $866.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
MartinandDad, not quite. The motherboard can EASILY be a budget board that costs no more than $120, and the graphics card should be significantly more.

The rule of thumb is to spend twice on the graphics card what you would on the CPU. However, since this is a budget rig, I would recommend the $300 GTX 770, specifically the EVGA ACX 770.

Also, you could easily go with a marginally slower processor, like the i5-4460, and not even notice the difference for gaming one bit.
 
This is another build with more powerful GPU:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($279.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Microsoft Keyboard 200 Wired Standard Keyboard ($7.78 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse 200 for Business Wired Optical Mouse ($4.85 @ NCIX US)
Total: $934.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

MartinandDad

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The 4460 is only ten bucks less than the 4590. I appreciate all the recommendations, everybody. We may go a little on the cheap side for the GPU (<200) and upgrade later, otherwise all the products above we will definitely look at.

One last question, any major pros or cons to using Radeon vs. GeForce? I know some of you will disagree, but we're staying under 200 and might upgrade in the future.
 

Andrew Buck

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For mining BitCoins, Radeon is better. GeForce is optimized for many titles, so is Radeon. Watch_Dogs is NVidia, Battlefield 4 is AMD and has Mantle. It depends on the games. You could get an R9 280 for the same price as a GTX 760, and the 280 beats the 760 by a long shot and has more VRAM.
 
This build is with R9 280 at $199.9. What happened to your budget of 800-1000.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Microsoft Keyboard 200 Wired Standard Keyboard ($7.78 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse 200 for Business Wired Optical Mouse ($4.85 @ NCIX US)
Total: $854.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
This build is with 750Ti

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($129.50 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Microsoft Keyboard 200 Wired Standard Keyboard ($7.78 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse 200 for Business Wired Optical Mouse ($4.85 @ NCIX US)
Total: $785.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
This build is with R9 270x. Just trying to give you various builds to figure out which way to go

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.96 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Microsoft Keyboard 200 Wired Standard Keyboard ($7.78 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse 200 for Business Wired Optical Mouse ($4.85 @ NCIX US)
Total: $816.46
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

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Easylover, thank you for all the combinations you provided. My budget also requires a monitor, hence my resisting going up in price on the GPU. Sorry I wasn't clearer about that.
 
With monitor, your required CPU and a good GPU this is the max I could do for you:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H87-G43 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($112.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($61.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ GL2460HM 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Microsoft Keyboard 200 Wired Standard Keyboard ($7.78 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse 200 for Business Wired Optical Mouse ($4.85 @ NCIX US)
Total: $945.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 

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