dwatterworth :
Hmm, interesting. I suppose the idea of the OEM (manufacturer) and the OEM windows license distributed by resellers such as Newegg etc are the major areas of confusion for me. I assumed the OEM license issued by the hardware manufacturer was the same as the OEM license one can obtain from a retail reseller.
No that one sold on NewEgg is actually the BUILDER's edition (read the description carefully it will mention it) which is outlined at
http://www.microsoft.com/OEM/en/licensing/sblicensing/Pages/licensing_faq.aspx third link listed at the top " Windows system builder licensing for personal use".
dwatterworth :
The builder license is a new one for me, as I've never been able to find a 'deactivate' or something similar option on any copy of windows. Guess I could have saved myself a lot of cash that way.
No copy has a 'deactivate', unless your on the backend using SCCM in a Enterprise environment, then there is a tool that is similiar. What happens with Windows for MANY decades now it is 'phones home' and checks it validity, if it finds it is not valid it goes into demo mode for 30 days and turns off some functions (such as Windows Update, reading DVDs, etc.) and keeps popping up telling you it is a invalid copy of Windows and you can link to website to get a proper license.
What normally happens is, I build Computer 1 with Windows, then computer 1 no longer helpful, remove the drive / wipe the drive build computer 2 with Windows, Windows says it can't activate, and offers to let you use the Phone Service, which you put in the numbers and when done provides a special number set to put in your PC which then activates it. Otherwise you would need to speak to a MS Help and they would do the same thing manually with you. Again though this is only possible with the Builder's edition, not HP/Dell/etc. OEM (OEM by the way means Original Equipment Manufactuter, or the original company making the equipment).
dwatterworth :
The 'limitless' term I was questioning before was in terms of time, not seats. As in, the laptop specs seem like it might be older, and potentially past the time frame.
The only thing that happens is the software becomes unsupported, which then means you can't get any patches, installation assistance, etc. that is normal with a licensed copy of Windows.
dwatterworth :
One last question while I have your ear (eyes): this is specific to windows, when support is ended for a given OS, does that release the terms of the license? Or do they still hold ownership of every aspect of the license while no longer offering any support? (negligent parent?)
You're confusing at that point License and Patent/Trademark (aka Ownership) with the way you worded the question. Whenever you 'buy' a copy of Microsoft Software, you are paying to 'USE' the software, not 'OWN' the software as you would 'OWN' a Microsoft Mouse (hardware). Hence the terms of the licensing, which upon opening the seal of the software or use it agree to the terms outlined. That license which stated what is and what isn't Microsoft's responsibility ends like all licenses (expiring, hence why you need a new Driver's license, Car License, etc.) at a certain interval. At that point of ending, Microsoft no longer is bound legally by those terms (providing support, fixes, etc.) to the product, and it is all 'On Your Own' at that point if you wish to use the software OUTSIDE of the terms of the license (which now expired). It doesn't relieve OWNERSHIP of the product (that is under Patent/Trademark) because the licensing terms expired, product ownership lays with Microsoft, for what 100 years or more I believe it is for any product made by someone?
dwatterworth :
The model specific item you mentioned in terms of potential upgrade is interesting. I do not like the idea of a primary license agreement (microsoft) with addendum items from the hardware manufacturer. The Microsoft method of tying the license to the hardware is much more appreciated and concrete than a paper method.
Shrugs, then buy the Builder's edition and not from the Hardware manufacturer. The hardware makers can add on whatever terms they wish because it is THEIR products you are buying, Microsoft is the add on to their product, so they can set whatever terms they like. If you don't like it don't buy their product, that simple.