Need advice for new build

iAmAdrian · Jul 10, 2014

Which of the 2 should I get?

i5 4440 or the 4570?

Will be using this for mid-high gaming.(Like BF4, mostly DotA 2 and SC 2) and a few office works, Remote Access, Team Viewer, Multi tabs on chrome and Skype.

I would really love to get the i7 4770 but budget is pretty tight.

Or can you guys suggest anything? Max budget is 300U$ for proc, so this would mean I'll be getting a crappy mobo. Budget is around 450U$ or less for both proc and mobo.

I already have an R7 260x. Will use this one in the mean time.

Suggest one that's bang for a buck. I'm shopping in the Philippines.

Thanks,
Adrian

Gorgonzer · Jul 10, 2014

I5 is all you need. Put in an OC'able. With appropriate MB and cooler. Under budget as well! Enjoy
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ZdMwP

iAmAdrian · Jul 10, 2014

Can I change the MB to ASRock Z97M Pro4 or maybe H97M? Since the coming Air 240 only supports mATX at max.
Also I'm not really good with OCing.

PandaBear270 · Jul 10, 2014

Honestly, the i5 4440 is more than enough for gaming. Four cores with a very good single threaded performance.

iAmAdrian · Jul 10, 2014

I think so too, I'm not really going to OC anything, anytime soon.

Gorgonzer · Jul 10, 2014

iAmAdrian :

In light of new info your way under budget for your requirements! Stock cooler is fine for no OC'ing
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/McqNvK

Can do the I7 4770 for your budget if you think the hyperthreading will help with the office work projects.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QB3prH

PandaBear270 · Jul 10, 2014

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RPRTpg You said crappy motherboard?

not crappy at all.

iAmAdrian · Jul 10, 2014

@Gorgonzer
Is the i5 4690 a solid proc? Or I can just get a 4440 since it's cheaper. Lol.
What advantages do I get with the 4690?

Sorry for late info, I only have a VS450 PSU for now. Will be upgrading soon.

@PandaBear270
Sorry, by crappy I meant, lacking of features.

I need a USB 3.0 front panel header and an angled sata 3(6gb/s) for better cable management since the N200 is a pretty tight case, would be good if the Air 240 is in though. Unfortunately it's not out yet. So I'll have to squeeze everything in the N200 with a non modular PSU.

PandaBear270 · Jul 10, 2014

The Asrock B85M-HDS have a USB 3.0 header (two ports in the front) and is a very solid motherboard for its price. You probably don't need more because you will not overclock or dual GPU.

Gorgonzer · Jul 10, 2014

.4 ghz per core power so 1.6 ghz slower on the 4440
4440 = 12.4ghz 4690 = 14ghz

The 30$ difference is up to you. The I5's don't have hyperthreading FYI.

PandaBear270 · Jul 10, 2014

Gorgonzer :

It is always wise to get the best i5 possible when you are going to game, but measuring the Ghz like that is only proper for multi tasking. For gaming, I measure the single GHz of the first core. But even if they have 400 mhz of difference, the advanced IPC of these 4th generation chips make them overkill, even the lowest of them.

Gorgonzer · Jul 10, 2014

PandaBear270 :

He's doing other stuff besides gaming. Im giving him the differences between the 2 which he asked for.

iAmAdrian · Jul 10, 2014

Yeah, I probably won't need hyperthreading since I'm not gonna do any video editing or rendering. But multi-tasking, I think this needs hyperthreading, although there won't be any HEAVY multi-tasking, maybe just low load to medium.

PandaBear270 · Jul 10, 2014

Then, pick the highest i5 that fits into your budget. On a personal sidenote, the i5 3570 (non-k) is a very good CPU, value and performance wise. There is no need to have always the latest generation. The small performance increases does not justify it.

Gorgonzer · Jul 10, 2014

PandaBear270 :

The 3570 and the 4690 are the same price. Why would you not go with the newer technology?

iAmAdrian · Jul 10, 2014

The 3570 here is more expensive than the 4440.
Like 27-30U$ more.

Gorgonzer · Jul 10, 2014

Also, if the GPU ever goes out, the iGPU on the newer chips are a lot better than the older chips. A lot better.

iAmAdrian · Jul 10, 2014

Yeah would probably be better off with haswell.

As the saying goes: New is always better.

So now, the battle goes with 4440, 4570 and 4670.
I will just reduce my budget. And probably just get an entry level mobo.

PandaBear270 · Jul 10, 2014

If it helps, this is my way to calculate the build: First, I select the cheapest motherboard (usually M-ATX, tend to be cheaper) with a PCI-E X16 3.0 and SATA 3. The audio is something worth to choose. If the difference between a ALC662 and a ALC892 is like 5$ go for it. Next, choose a graphic card that suit your needs. Usually, 2 GB DDR5, + 500 shader cores and minimum of two fans for proper cooling. Then you calculate the CPU to choose based on the remaining budget.

You already have the GPU, get Asrock B85M Pro4 as motherboard, and a Core i5-4690. (K if you plan to overclock, but I am not willing to pay a tribute to Intel just for that).

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