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The Console Effect

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Anonymous
July 11, 2014 4:31:54 AM

I have a GTX 770. I am hoping that this GPU will be sufficient to last me the next 2 or 3 years. I keep reading about AMD cards being more future proof because consoles have AMD units and games will increasingly be developed with their architecture in mind. Just how big a deal will this be if you run on Nvidia? What will be the likely AMD/mantle dividend in frames per second?

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July 11, 2014 4:39:07 AM

Anonymous said:
I have a GTX 770. I am hoping that this GPU will be sufficient to last me the next 2 or 3 years. I keep reading about AMD cards being more future proof because consoles have AMD units and games will increasingly be developed with their architecture in mind. Just how big a deal will this be if you run on Nvidia? What will be the likely AMD/mantle dividend in frames per second?


A GTX 770 will almost certainly last a few years :) 
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July 11, 2014 4:42:35 AM

I would think it the other way: The console are holding back the development of desktop graphic card which slows down the development of 4k gaming capable single gpu.
The architecture wouldn't make too much a difference for Nvidia. It more of the software driver updates which should be more important in maintaining the GTX 770 perofrmance for newer games. Doesn't matter of console use AMD gpus. PC coding is still different to an extent. Mantle is still developing, there isn't much difference yet for pc with a good cpu pair with a R9 gpu yet using mantle or directx. For lower end cpu there is a larger difference in terms of consistent frame rates maintained.
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July 11, 2014 5:01:19 AM

Well it could happen, AMD might take a lead someday, as for today nvidia is the leader in most cases (compatibility, SLI work usually better then CF, updates an issues correction, build quality - from my experience).

Now in your case its a bit different, the GTX 770 in almost the same price as a R9 280x, the 280x is actually a better card in many ways, more Bandwidth, DirectX 11.2, more Unified Shaders, 384-bit (770 has 256-bit) and of course 3gb memory (2gb on the 770).

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-graphics-card-revi...

Enjoy!
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Anonymous
July 11, 2014 5:03:26 AM

I think Nvidia have a better record for driver quality. I think Geforce Experience is a great piece of software.

What about the whole Vram debate? In a couple of years time will 2Gb Vram be a real performance killer?

Edit : Posted before I saw last comment. I had a 760 and was a bit disappointed with it (it was faulty though and running about 10 fps below what it should have been)
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July 11, 2014 7:10:36 AM

Anonymous said:
I have a GTX 770. I am hoping that this GPU will be sufficient to last me the next 2 or 3 years. I keep reading about AMD cards being more future proof because consoles have AMD units and games will increasingly be developed with their architecture in mind. Just how big a deal will this be if you run on Nvidia? What will be the likely AMD/mantle dividend in frames per second?


about AMD gpu being use in console you don't need to worry about it. when it comes to PC development companies like nvidia still working with game developer to make sure the game work properly with their hardware. about Mantle developer are interested with it no doubt but it depends a lot on how AMD wants to handle Mantle in the future. they keep talking about Mantle will be open and such but their action shows otherwise.
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July 11, 2014 7:18:42 AM

DirectX 12 will kill off Mantle as it does exactly the same thing, reduce CPU overhead, but with developers only needing to code for one API. Being in the consoles so far has not given any boost in gaming performance for AMD, and may be diverting their resources away from PC gaming development.

The other part is that AMD is losing ground every month in the PC video card market. Game developers are not going to cater to a minority of PC gamers. All you need to do is check out the Steam Hardware and Software Survey and you can clearly see AMD losing share and its individual cards getting less and less prevalent.
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
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July 11, 2014 7:57:20 AM

The steam surveys are a great link. What about the Vram issue? Will 2Gb Vram be a problem in next couple of years? Watchdogs and all that.
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July 11, 2014 8:10:32 AM

craggle58 said:
The steam surveys are a great link. What about the Vram issue? Will 2Gb Vram be a problem in next couple of years? Watchdogs and all that.


At 1080p the 280x would run out of processing power before 2gb vs 3gb became an issue :) 
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