R9 290x or GTX 780 TI?
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TerrickCEF
July 12, 2014 6:54:09 AM
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July 12, 2014 7:02:57 AM
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July 12, 2014 7:10:27 AM
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The Builder
July 12, 2014 7:30:28 AM
The Zotac GTX 780 TI AMP! is a good card. But for $20USD less, the EVGA GTX 780 Ti Superclocked ACX will offer you the same level of performance with a much higher quality construction and better customer service. Not to mention the free copy of Watchdogs. lol
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What resolution are you playing on? if 1080p you will not be able to tell the difference between 3 and 4gb when playing games, on a synthetic benchmark the numbers will be different, but in game you will never tell the difference.
The 780ti is a more powerful card, it goes 780ti>290X>780. I can list good and bad things about both cards but I don’t want to start a fanboy war on this thread, IMO the 780ti is an all around better GPU, build quality, hardware ect. I have one I absolutely love it, after owning an AMD 7970 (replaced that with the 780ti) I will never buy another AMD card again. But it all depends on your budget if you don’t have a lot of spending cash then I would say go for the 290X, you will get more fps for your money.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1072?vs=1056
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290X-vs-EVGA-GeForce-...
As far as Zotac I personally would not buy from them, I recommend EVGA, ASUS, or PNY. EVGA and ASUS have some of the best coolers, and PNY has a lifetime warranty.
This is my opinion/experience, if you want more information please ask, if someone has a different opinion that’s cool go ahead and post it, but please let’s keep the fanboy fighting to a minimum
The 780ti is a more powerful card, it goes 780ti>290X>780. I can list good and bad things about both cards but I don’t want to start a fanboy war on this thread, IMO the 780ti is an all around better GPU, build quality, hardware ect. I have one I absolutely love it, after owning an AMD 7970 (replaced that with the 780ti) I will never buy another AMD card again. But it all depends on your budget if you don’t have a lot of spending cash then I would say go for the 290X, you will get more fps for your money.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1072?vs=1056
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290X-vs-EVGA-GeForce-...
As far as Zotac I personally would not buy from them, I recommend EVGA, ASUS, or PNY. EVGA and ASUS have some of the best coolers, and PNY has a lifetime warranty.
This is my opinion/experience, if you want more information please ask, if someone has a different opinion that’s cool go ahead and post it, but please let’s keep the fanboy fighting to a minimum
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The value of vram is much overstated.
Here is a performance comparison of 2gb vs. 4gb:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Pe...
Such a graphics upgrade will not bring you significantly better performance over your current R9-290.
FWIW, your X6 will be a cpu bottleneck long before the GTX780ti.
I suggest you look into a intel K cpu and Z79 motherboard instead.
Here is a performance comparison of 2gb vs. 4gb:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Pe...
Such a graphics upgrade will not bring you significantly better performance over your current R9-290.
FWIW, your X6 will be a cpu bottleneck long before the GTX780ti.
I suggest you look into a intel K cpu and Z79 motherboard instead.
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TerrickCEF
July 12, 2014 7:44:35 AM
The Builder said:
The Zotac GTX 780 TI AMP! is a good card. But for $20USD less, the EVGA GTX 780 Ti Superclocked ACX will offer you the same level of performance with a much higher quality construction and better customer service. Not to mention the free copy of Watchdogs. lolI cant find any EVGA dealer in my country so the cheapest route to 780 TI is Zotac .
I mean how good it is compare to the others?
ChrisR83 said:
What resolution are you playing on? if 1080p you will not be able to tell the difference between 3 and 4gb when playing games, on a synthetic benchmark the numbers will be different, but in game you will never tell the difference. The 780ti is a more powerful card, it goes 780ti>290X>780. I can list good and bad things about both cards but I don’t want to start a fanboy war on this thread, IMO the 780ti is an all around better GPU, build quality, hardware ect. I have one I absolutely love it, after owning an AMD 7970 (replaced that with the 780ti) I will never buy another AMD card again. But it all depends on your budget if you don’t have a lot of spending cash then I would say go for the 290X, you will get more fps for your money.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1072?vs=1056
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290X-vs-EVGA-GeForce-...
As far as Zotac I personally would not buy from them, I recommend EVGA, ASUS, or PNY. EVGA and ASUS have some of the best coolers, and PNY has a lifetime warranty.
This is my opinion/experience, if you want more information please ask, if someone has a different opinion that’s cool go ahead and post it, but please let’s keep the fanboy fighting to a minimum
I couldnt find EVGA dealer in my country and I'm going through the cheapest route to get 780 TI. so If I were to get a Zotac card is it good or is it that bad (as you wouldnt recommend them) ?
Currently Zotac 780 TI AMP is the cheapest card among the other brands in my country
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The Builder
July 12, 2014 7:48:38 AM
TerrickCEF
July 12, 2014 7:52:21 AM
geofelt said:
The value of vram is much overstated.Here is a performance comparison of 2gb vs. 4gb:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Pe...
Such a graphics upgrade will not bring you significantly better performance over your current R9-290.
FWIW, your X6 will be a cpu bottleneck long before the GTX780ti.
I suggest you look into a intel K cpu and Z79 motherboard instead.
i see
I'm using FX 8350 right now
is it good for GTX 780TI?
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TerrickCEF
July 12, 2014 7:52:46 AM
TerrickCEF
July 12, 2014 7:53:26 AM
If you have the budget for a GTX780ti, I suggest you replace your FX-8350 with a i5-4690K and a Z97 motherboard.
You will game better.
I really doubt that you would notice any difference in gaming performance if you changed a R9-290 to a GTX780ti without looking to the cpu component first.
Almost all nvidia cards start with the same guts, they differ only by the coolers attached, and the better binned units will have factory overclocks. I see no reason why ZOTAC would not be OK so long as support is available to you. The same consideration would apply to AMD cards.
The R9 cards get their speed from being heavily overclocked. That makes them run hotter and noisier.
It also makes them more susceptible to problems.
You will game better.
I really doubt that you would notice any difference in gaming performance if you changed a R9-290 to a GTX780ti without looking to the cpu component first.
Almost all nvidia cards start with the same guts, they differ only by the coolers attached, and the better binned units will have factory overclocks. I see no reason why ZOTAC would not be OK so long as support is available to you. The same consideration would apply to AMD cards.
The R9 cards get their speed from being heavily overclocked. That makes them run hotter and noisier.
It also makes them more susceptible to problems.
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TerrickCEF
July 12, 2014 8:10:44 AM
geofelt said:
If you have the budget for a GTX780ti, I suggest you replace your FX-8350 with a i5-4690K and a Z97 motherboard.You will game better.
I really doubt that you would notice any difference in gaming performance if you changed a R9-290 to a GTX780ti without looking to the cpu component first.
Almost all nvidia cards start with the same guts, they differ only by the coolers attached, and the better binned units will have factory overclocks. I see no reason why ZOTAC would not be OK so long as support is available to you. The same consideration would apply to AMD cards.
The R9 cards get their speed from being heavily overclocked. That makes them run hotter and noisier.
It also makes them more susceptible to problems.
Im planning to change to intel once intel has release their new next gen CPU. is it a worth wait or just change to current CPU model? Cause I dont want to regret for things that I've bought in future
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TerrickCEF
July 12, 2014 8:11:25 AM
ChrisR83 said:
yes the 780ti will still beat the sapphire 290X, if you were to get a 290X that is the one I would recommend though, it has the best cooling, the 290X GPU’s are nitrous for running hot. Yes your 8350 will work just fine with the 780ti.Thanks dude you helped a lot ! Imma buy 780TI !.
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I think today, the best cpu, bar none is the i7-4790K.
At stock, it runs at 4.4 all day long.
The hyperthreads are not that helpful for gamers who typically use only two cores.
But, the extra $100 you pay over the i5-4690K gets you a better binned chip, more l3 cache, and hyperthreads.
If one has the extra$100 budget, it is the chip to get.
About mid year 2015, we should see broadwell, a 14nm die shrink. The architecture will remain the same, but 14nm should allow a bit higher overclock. I might expect perhaps a typical 10% improvement at the current price.
Is it worth it o wait?
Only YOU can tell. But, if you wait for the next best thing, you will wait forever.
Buy a nice Z97 based motherboard with sli capabilities and you should be good for perhaps 4 more years.
In the off chance that broadwell is significantly better, the Z97 motherboard will support it.
At stock, it runs at 4.4 all day long.
The hyperthreads are not that helpful for gamers who typically use only two cores.
But, the extra $100 you pay over the i5-4690K gets you a better binned chip, more l3 cache, and hyperthreads.
If one has the extra$100 budget, it is the chip to get.
About mid year 2015, we should see broadwell, a 14nm die shrink. The architecture will remain the same, but 14nm should allow a bit higher overclock. I might expect perhaps a typical 10% improvement at the current price.
Is it worth it o wait?
Only YOU can tell. But, if you wait for the next best thing, you will wait forever.
Buy a nice Z97 based motherboard with sli capabilities and you should be good for perhaps 4 more years.
In the off chance that broadwell is significantly better, the Z97 motherboard will support it.
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ChrisR83 said:
yes the 780ti will still beat the sapphire 290X, if you were to get a 290X that is the one I would recommend though, it has the best cooling, the 290X GPU’s are nitrous for running hot. Yes your 8350 will work just fine with the 780ti.Thanks dude you helped a lot ! Imma buy 780TI !.
If the Zotac 780 ti Reference is the same price, I recommend you get it instead of the non reference cooler because the reference design exhausts the hot air out of the case instead of recycling the hot air inside of the case.
If you have a case with good air flow and a good fan set up then you should be okay with a non reference cooler...
Zotac make good cards in my opinion however my first choice would be Asus.
Zotac is one of the biggest graphics cards manufacturers and their quality is quite high.
I've don't have much experience with the non reference cards from Zotac however their reference cards are excellent.
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/page/cv_zotac.html
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TerrickCEF
July 12, 2014 9:52:37 AM
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TerrickCEF said:
ChrisR83 said:
yes the 780ti will still beat the sapphire 290X, if you were to get a 290X that is the one I would recommend though, it has the best cooling, the 290X GPU’s are nitrous for running hot. Yes your 8350 will work just fine with the 780ti.Thanks dude you helped a lot ! Imma buy 780TI !.
If the Zotac 780 ti Reference is the same price, I recommend you get it instead of the non reference cooler because the reference design exhausts the hot air out of the case instead of recycling the hot air inside of the case.
If you have a case with good air flow and a good fan set up then you should be okay with a non reference cooler...
Zotac make good cards in my opinion however my first choice would be Asus.
Zotac is one of the biggest graphics cards manufacturers and their quality is quite high.
I've don't have much experience with the non reference cards from Zotac however their reference cards are excellent.
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/page/cv_zotac.html
unfortunately, the dealer only sell Non reference card. The reference card is already sold out .
so yeah..
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rbarnhart
July 19, 2014 11:03:36 AM
As mentioned above, it depends upon the resolution. If you are playing at 1080p there is a slight performance advantage of having the 780 Ti, but if your screen refresh is only 60hz, then you cannot actually see the difference.
I would suggest you consider what your video output needs are from the card, then consider what your future intentions are. If you are considering multi-gpu, multiple screen configurations, the differences between the AMD and Nvidia cards becomes murkier as the performance differences are often software (drivers, patches, etc.) related and less about hardware.
I would suggest you consider what your video output needs are from the card, then consider what your future intentions are. If you are considering multi-gpu, multiple screen configurations, the differences between the AMD and Nvidia cards becomes murkier as the performance differences are often software (drivers, patches, etc.) related and less about hardware.
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