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I'm going to build a gaming PC on a $1000 budget.

Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kekker/saved/qTZzK8

The build I have there is a bit too expensive for me. What should I change?

I will not give up 16 gigs of RAM, I will not give up my 1 TB HDD. I had been thinking about getting a less powerful graphics card, but I'm not sure if there is something else I should take out before downgrading my GPU.
 
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regardless, if you say you dont want to give up 16gb if ram then i hope there's a good reason to that...what do you think of this? a slight bit over-budget still has 16gb of ram
what i changed and why
1)if you're not going to overclock since you didnt select a 'k' series cpu, then you're going to see little benefit from that massive cooler...a hyper 212 does the job just as well without oc
2)Windows 8/8.1 boot times are only 0.9 seconds slower on a hybrid when compared to a 840 evo, hence
3)280x outperforms the gtx 770 while being cheaper, you didnt mention you needed physx so thats why, plus the 280x has 3gb vram, more than enough
4)CX power supplies are moot, XFX pro series are ALOT better
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If you want to get a decent answer than actually tell us why you want 16gb of ram for a gaming machine, rather than just stubbornly refusing to even think of removing it.

anyway, you can get a slightly cheaper GPU and/or CPU, you'll still be able to run any game fine on max settings.

But if you want a real answer you're going to need to give actual information about what you're going to be doing, rather than just "gaming".
How many monitors, what resolution, what games, what framerate do you want, what 60hz or 120hz, do you need full anti aliasing or are you okay with 2x.
 
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I know you mentioned you wouldn't budge on the 16gb of RAM, but I urge you to reconsider. As this PC is for gaming you could not possibly use that much memory.

The aftermarket CPU cooler is not necessary as you can't overclock with your chosen CPU and motherboard, and the stock fan keeps the CPU at good enough temperatures. You can always buy an aftermarket cooler down the road.

Also I've changed your GTX 770 for a R9 280x. The performance is very similar and you save yourself quite a bit of cash.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $989.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
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Why such a high end cooler on a multiplier locked CPU (non-K unit)?

If you are okay with CPU fans that use the plastic push pin mounts, the Cooler Master TX3 is a good option and much easier to fit in a system (only 92mm fan size, not 120mm). It is $20 at NewEgg right now. If you want the 120mm size but not the price of the Noctuna, I would go for the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus for $30 through NewEgg or Amazon right now.

As far as the GPU goes, your selection is excellent, but you would get much better value (at lower display settings) going with a 750 Ti video card for about $150 (or $230 less than the GTX 770 in your build).
 
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Andrew's suggestions are good, but honestly I would stick with an aftermarket cooler just for noise reasons, although that I5 might have a better than average stock cooler, read up on some reviews of it's stock cooler and see if it's considered noisy, if it is you can always get a cheap aftermarket like hyper 212 evo.
 
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regardless, if you say you dont want to give up 16gb if ram then i hope there's a good reason to that...what do you think of this? a slight bit over-budget still has 16gb of ram
what i changed and why
1)if you're not going to overclock since you didnt select a 'k' series cpu, then you're going to see little benefit from that massive cooler...a hyper 212 does the job just as well without oc
2)Windows 8/8.1 boot times are only 0.9 seconds slower on a hybrid when compared to a 840 evo, hence
3)280x outperforms the gtx 770 while being cheaper, you didnt mention you needed physx so thats why, plus the 280x has 3gb vram, more than enough
4)CX power supplies are moot, XFX pro series are ALOT better
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.97 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($139.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($269.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1031.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
 
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Leonell12's build is good, except the 16GB ram. For gaming, it's a pure waste of money. 8GB is plenty.

@andrew9292 The 4670 has a turbo freq of 3.8 (stock 3.4) wouldn't a cpu cooler help to keep noise down, keep the cpu cooler and make sure it can always reach that turbo speed if needed? Just my $0.02
 
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Thanks for all your replies. Sorry if I'm a bit stubborn about the 16 gigs of RAM.
This PC will be mainly for gaming, but I will also be doing some of my own game design. I'll be working with 3D graphics programs (mainly blender and sculptris) and doing some 2D work (GIMP and Inkscape).

I probably should have mentioned all that in my first post... sorry :/
 
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This build looks perfect, thank you.
 
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