i5 3570 vs i5 4670
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I want to read the community's opinions on whenever going with a i5 3570 or a i5 4670 on a new build from scratch.
Does the performance increase justifies the new chip?
So does the price and the new motherboard?
CPUBoss states this:
The 4670 (Haswell) packs a 3.4 GHz Quad Core with 4 threads and 6MB. It comes equipped with an HD 4600 integrated GPU, and consumes 84W TDP of power. In contrast is the 3570, based on the Ivy bridge architecture and is older by 10 months. Would you believe me when I tell you that it has exactly the same specs as the 4670? Only 2 features are different: first, it has an older integrated GPU; second and most importantly, it has a lower power consumption of 77W TDP.
Looking at the benchmarks, the 4670 led the tests by a mere 7-9%: in 3Dmark11 physics, PassMark, and the PassMark single core test. This isn’t remarkable, given the fact that it consumes around 10W more power. Surprisingly, the older 3570 was able to lead the Geekbench 64-bit test by 10%, which proves that despite its age, it can still put up a fight.
In conclusion, the Intel Core i5 4670 may indeed be faster, but since it’s only by an insignificant margin, it doesn’t merit our recommendation given its steep asking price. Haswell is better suited for Laptops, where devices would get more battery life and run cooler too. For this matchup, we recommend the stable, powerful, and reliable Intel Core i5 3570.
"For this matchup, we recommend the stable, powerful, and reliable Intel Core i5 3570". But the benchmarks show a valuable improvement on IPC.
Does the performance increase justifies the new chip?
So does the price and the new motherboard?
CPUBoss states this:
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Intel’s new Haswell architecture proclaims features such as improved cooling and efficiency. For desktops, it’s based on a new socket, the LGA1150: so to experience these new CPUs, you’d have to upgrade your motherboard. But is it worth the upgrade though? For this comparison, we’re comparing the new Intel Core i5 4670 with the older Intel Core i5 3570 to find out.The 4670 (Haswell) packs a 3.4 GHz Quad Core with 4 threads and 6MB. It comes equipped with an HD 4600 integrated GPU, and consumes 84W TDP of power. In contrast is the 3570, based on the Ivy bridge architecture and is older by 10 months. Would you believe me when I tell you that it has exactly the same specs as the 4670? Only 2 features are different: first, it has an older integrated GPU; second and most importantly, it has a lower power consumption of 77W TDP.
Looking at the benchmarks, the 4670 led the tests by a mere 7-9%: in 3Dmark11 physics, PassMark, and the PassMark single core test. This isn’t remarkable, given the fact that it consumes around 10W more power. Surprisingly, the older 3570 was able to lead the Geekbench 64-bit test by 10%, which proves that despite its age, it can still put up a fight.
In conclusion, the Intel Core i5 4670 may indeed be faster, but since it’s only by an insignificant margin, it doesn’t merit our recommendation given its steep asking price. Haswell is better suited for Laptops, where devices would get more battery life and run cooler too. For this matchup, we recommend the stable, powerful, and reliable Intel Core i5 3570.
"For this matchup, we recommend the stable, powerful, and reliable Intel Core i5 3570". But the benchmarks show a valuable improvement on IPC.
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Ali Shayyan
July 12, 2014 9:16:30 AM
I read some where it's not much of CPU performance improvement haswell does something new and better with memory optimization and etc some other better memory controller stuff , and older generation has most motherboards lacking USB3.0 and sata 3 6gbps , etc , better go with the newer architecture . (8 watt tdp difference isn't much also price is same)
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Ali Shayyan
July 12, 2014 9:27:09 AM
Don't worry about 100 or 200mhz difference in clock speeds between two chips in the same generation because the difference in performance would be negligible. The 3.2/3.6ghz 4570 would be equal in performance to the 3.4/3.8ghz 3570. The 3.4/3.8ghz 4670 is faster than the 4570 but it would not be noticeable. The 4570 is $30 cheaper than the 4670. That is a big difference in price.
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For a new build, go with newer tech. The cost is not much different and the newer tech is a bit faster.
With your budget, I might spend a bit more for the i5-4690K and a Z97 based motherboard. The "K" will cost perhaps 5% more, but will gain you perhaps 20% more cpu power with a mild overclock.
You need not oc initially, but in time, you might. At end of life, you will get more than the premium back for a "K:.
With your budget, I might spend a bit more for the i5-4690K and a Z97 based motherboard. The "K" will cost perhaps 5% more, but will gain you perhaps 20% more cpu power with a mild overclock.
You need not oc initially, but in time, you might. At end of life, you will get more than the premium back for a "K:.
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thelasthallow
July 12, 2014 10:09:15 AM
Broadwell is more likely in 12 months, from what I hear. I would expect a typical 10% price/performance improvement.
I doubt that it will support DDR4 since current DDR3 Z97 motherboards will be compatible.
DDR4 will probably show up in Haswell-E this fall.
If your main use is rendering or other multi core enabled apps, then the 6/8 core haswell-E might be worth waiting for.
If your usage is gaming, then current haswell quad is as good as it gets.
I doubt that it will support DDR4 since current DDR3 Z97 motherboards will be compatible.
DDR4 will probably show up in Haswell-E this fall.
If your main use is rendering or other multi core enabled apps, then the 6/8 core haswell-E might be worth waiting for.
If your usage is gaming, then current haswell quad is as good as it gets.
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Ali Shayyan
July 12, 2014 11:53:14 PM
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LookItsRain said:
Building from scratch, get 4690k and a z97 mobo, why buy a older gen cpu with a dead socket?Some people just want a solid and stable chip to last like 5 years without replacing. So if a Ivy is more cheap than a Haswell, why not choosing the Ivy? Almost same performance and in 5 years both will be outdated.
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LookItsRain said:
Building from scratch, get 4690k and a z97 mobo, why buy a older gen cpu with a dead socket?Some people just want a solid and stable chip to last like 5 years without replacing. So if a Ivy is more cheap than a Haswell, why not choosing the Ivy? Almost same performance and in 5 years both will be outdated.
Id rather pay 50 dollars extra to get 10% more performence now, and then have the ability to upgrade 3-4 years down the road and then have another 3-4 years with that new broadwell. Rather than save 50 now and spend 150-200 later on a new mobo.
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Id rather pay 50 dollars extra to get 10% more performence now, and then have the ability to upgrade 3-4 years down the road and then have another 3-4 years with that new broadwell. Rather than save 50 now and spend 150-200 later on a new mobo. Right, but in five years, there will be another ****well processor that will be 300% better than any haswell or broadwell.
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Is it really that much more expensive? Where do you live? I live in Spain, and here the 1150 chips are cheaper than the 1155. But I am not buying it, this is a theoretical thread to determine if it is really worth to pick the latest while building from zero.
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Well, if what he said is true, 1150 is cheaper in spain ,more efficent, 10% faster per clock and offers an upgrade path to atleast broadwell.
Why on earth would you choose an 1155 setup with those factors. 1155 has no advantages over 1150 other than OC and thermals, but that was largly solved with Devils Canyon.
Why on earth would you choose an 1155 setup with those factors. 1155 has no advantages over 1150 other than OC and thermals, but that was largly solved with Devils Canyon.
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