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July 14, 2014 1:29:28 PM

Hello! I'm sorry if you are reading one of my threads again, but I am eager to get my PC built! My problem is that I am not 100% sure if all my components are compatible, and if they are I want to know I am getting what I am paying for! Here is a link to my parts and I hope that someone will be able to help me! :D  http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tM22WZ

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July 14, 2014 1:38:41 PM

Definitely don't want an A10 CPU if you plan on using a GPU. Something like this would work better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1225.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Or this if you don't plan to overclock:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($76.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1241.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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July 14, 2014 2:16:15 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($77.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($108.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($158.62 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1378.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

A bit more expensive but you can OC the i5 and the Mobo appears to be nice. Fits the red and black theme with a white case. You could also add LED fans from Corsair and you have yourself a beast which performs significantly better than what you were showing.
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July 14, 2014 3:55:47 PM

numanator said:
Definitely don't want an A10 CPU if you plan on using a GPU. Something like this would work better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($144.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($74.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1225.81
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Or this if you don't plan to overclock:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($76.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1241.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


*****Now are you sure this is all compatible?
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July 14, 2014 3:56:15 PM

CraniumZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($77.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($108.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($158.62 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1378.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

A bit more expensive but you can OC the i5 and the Mobo appears to be nice. Fits the red and black theme with a white case. You could also add LED fans from Corsair and you have yourself a beast which performs significantly better than what you were showing.


****Are you 100% sure this is all compatible?
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July 14, 2014 4:05:15 PM

MickeyPCbuilder said:
CraniumZ said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($77.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($108.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($158.62 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1378.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

A bit more expensive but you can OC the i5 and the Mobo appears to be nice. Fits the red and black theme with a white case. You could also add LED fans from Corsair and you have yourself a beast which performs significantly better than what you were showing.


****Are you 100% sure this is all compatible?


Nearly. Always ask someone else. I could make a mistake without even knowing.
Theoretically this should all be compatible. Ill double check on my side.
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July 14, 2014 4:14:25 PM

CPU with MOBO= Check
RAM with MOBO= Check
Storage is fine as far as I can tell.
GPU with MOBO= Check
PSU with system= Should work. Ask for another opinion on that since only recently have I been reading up on PSU's.
The drive uses sata which is offered by the mobo.
The OS is fine.
The monitor is fine.You can go with the Asus if you want- It may be better or worse.
The keyboard and mouse should be compatible regardless. So should the headset. Looks green on my end.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 14, 2014 4:23:07 PM

Yes compatibility on all 3 build checks out. Don't get a CX series PSU, they use cheap capacitors and aren't made to operate under the temps that gaming computers reach.

Do you intend on overclocking? Are there any parts you are not willing to change?

Update: and the A10 has an expensive integrated GPU thats not worth paying for if you are getting a distinct graphics card.
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a b 4 Gaming
July 14, 2014 4:26:37 PM

Everything is compatible for both my builds and Cranium's build. pcpartpicker.com checks for most incompatibilities at the bottom of the page, mostly you are looking for right socket on mobo/cpu, right voltage on ram (doesnt matter for AMD cpus, Intel needs 1.5v ram), power supply of sufficient amps on the 12v rail + quality for reliability.

@CraniumZ I typically stay away from the Corsair CX series PSUs since they use cheap chinese capacitors that are more prone to failure. for $50-$90 I usually recommend XFX, Seasonic, Antec HCG series, Corsair HX/TX (if you can find them at this price). I stay away from the Corsair CX/VS/RM series. A quick guide for power supplies is this one: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...
Stick to tier 1, 2A or 2B power supplies. Not all are listed but it has quite a few of them.
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July 14, 2014 4:32:42 PM

numanator said:
Everything is compatible for both my builds and Cranium's build. pcpartpicker.com checks for most incompatibilities at the bottom of the page, mostly you are looking for right socket on mobo/cpu, right voltage on ram (doesnt matter for AMD cpus, Intel needs 1.5v ram), power supply of sufficient amps on the 12v rail + quality for reliability.

@CraniumZ I typically stay away from the Corsair CX series PSUs since they use cheap chinese capacitors that are more prone to failure. for $50-$90 I usually recommend XFX, Seasonic, Antec HCG series, Corsair HX/TX (if you can find them at this price). I stay away from the Corsair CX/VS/RM series. A quick guide for power supplies is this one: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...
Stick to tier 1, 2A or 2B power supplies. Not all are listed but it has quite a few of them.


Ill have a look thanks :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
July 14, 2014 5:06:34 PM

For a non-overclocking build i'd go for something like this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.90 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($115.91 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($82.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($77.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($158.62 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1284.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

The Xeon is basically an i7 without the integrated GPU.

For overclocking i'd get something like this
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($77.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case ($88.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($158.62 @ TigerDirect)
Keyboard: SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Headphones: Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($69.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $1300.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Personally i'd probably get individual SSD and HDD but if you need to stay under the $1300 budget then the hybrid should be ok.
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July 14, 2014 7:22:27 PM

byza said:
Yes compatibility on all 3 build checks out. Don't get a CX series PSU, they use cheap capacitors and aren't made to operate under the temps that gaming computers reach.

Do you intend on overclocking? Are there any parts you are not willing to change?

Update: and the A10 has an expensive integrated GPU thats not worth paying for if you are getting a distinct graphics card.


****I do not plan on OC.... and i am sure as hell willing to change out parts! ;)  Also thanks for the tip on the CX series and the amd processor... http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Zxw7GX is this a good build? What would be worth changing out and upgrading while staying under a $1300 budget? And please realize, I do not care if we rebuild my entire design, as long as we build a kick-@$$ gaming PC under $1300 lets go for a ride!!
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a b 4 Gaming
July 14, 2014 8:07:15 PM

It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.
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July 15, 2014 1:03:18 AM

byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.
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July 15, 2014 1:45:08 AM

CraniumZ said:
byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.


The first non-OC build i posted was Xeon w/ H series but he didn't bite.
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July 15, 2014 2:21:18 AM

byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.


The first non-OC build i posted was Xeon w/ H series but he didn't bite.


It's a shame. Might be due to the lack of familiarity with the name then. He should go for it. Hyperthreading an everything.
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July 15, 2014 2:31:06 AM

CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.


The first non-OC build i posted was Xeon w/ H series but he didn't bite.


It's a shame. Might be due to the lack of familiarity with the name then. He should go for it. Hyperthreading an everything.


It is a good build but at the same time, if it's not going to be used for rendering, it's not entirely necessary. More games will start using hyperthreading, but currently not many do.
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July 15, 2014 2:48:10 AM

byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.


The first non-OC build i posted was Xeon w/ H series but he didn't bite.


It's a shame. Might be due to the lack of familiarity with the name then. He should go for it. Hyperthreading an everything.


It is a good build but at the same time, if it's not going to be used for rendering, it's not entirely necessary. More games will start using hyperthreading, but currently not many do.


Any of the two builds are fine. If overclocking is wanted, the K and Z97 chipset should be chosen. Otherwise Xeon is good.
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July 15, 2014 8:40:14 AM

CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.


The first non-OC build i posted was Xeon w/ H series but he didn't bite.


It's a shame. Might be due to the lack of familiarity with the name then. He should go for it. Hyperthreading an everything.


It is a good build but at the same time, if it's not going to be used for rendering, it's not entirely necessary. More games will start using hyperthreading, but currently not many do.


Any of the two builds are fine. If overclocking is wanted, the K and Z97 chipset should be chosen. Otherwise Xeon is good.


*****I am lost.... so will I be using this build? ---> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rRgFT ALSO I plan on purchasing the oculus rift and virtuix omni to make a virtual reality set.... Will this PC handle these two accessories?
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July 15, 2014 8:44:32 AM

Ah, and please keep in mind, if you can help find me keyboards, mouses, and monitors (one of each) that will be relative to the ones I have but less money, that would be awesome! Being that @byza pointed out that I can only build a $900 computer being that the other $400 is going into the accessories. ****PLEASE NOTE: The oculus rift and the virtuix omni will NOT be included on my budget, I just want to make sure it will work with this build*****
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July 15, 2014 9:35:01 AM

MickeyPCbuilder said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.


The first non-OC build i posted was Xeon w/ H series but he didn't bite.


It's a shame. Might be due to the lack of familiarity with the name then. He should go for it. Hyperthreading an everything.


It is a good build but at the same time, if it's not going to be used for rendering, it's not entirely necessary. More games will start using hyperthreading, but currently not many do.


Any of the two builds are fine. If overclocking is wanted, the K and Z97 chipset should be chosen. Otherwise Xeon is good.


*****I am lost.... so will I be using this build? ---> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rRgFT ALSO I plan on purchasing the oculus rift and virtuix omni to make a virtual reality set.... Will this PC handle these two accessories?


I don't recommend this processor with a Z chip. If it is a none K processor, go with a H97 chipset motherboard. Same with the Xeon. The Xeon is an i7 without the iGPU.

As for the rift, I cannot confirm nor deny for I am not certain.
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July 15, 2014 9:59:11 AM

CraniumZ said:
MickeyPCbuilder said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.


The first non-OC build i posted was Xeon w/ H series but he didn't bite.


It's a shame. Might be due to the lack of familiarity with the name then. He should go for it. Hyperthreading an everything.


It is a good build but at the same time, if it's not going to be used for rendering, it's not entirely necessary. More games will start using hyperthreading, but currently not many do.


Any of the two builds are fine. If overclocking is wanted, the K and Z97 chipset should be chosen. Otherwise Xeon is good.


*****I am lost.... so will I be using this build? ---> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rRgFT ALSO I plan on purchasing the oculus rift and virtuix omni to make a virtual reality set.... Will this PC handle these two accessories?


I don't recommend this processor with a Z chip. If it is a none K processor, go with a H97 chipset motherboard. Same with the Xeon. The Xeon is an i7 without the iGPU.

As for the rift, I cannot confirm nor deny for I am not certain.


*******Okay thanks you so much for the help! Now unfortunately I am not as well educated in this field as you guys seem to be! I would very much appreciate it if you could use me current parts list and configure it the way you see fit, some reminders are that I am not overclocking and do not plan to, and I am more then willing to trade any parts on my list-- but i really do like the case, so please try to keep the case! Thanks a lot guys for all the help! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rRgFT
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July 15, 2014 10:39:45 AM

MickeyPCbuilder said:
CraniumZ said:
MickeyPCbuilder said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
CraniumZ said:
byza said:
It's tempting to swap out that case for a cheaper one, but it's a very good deal on the case so i'll leave that in. Considering that you're spending about $400 on peripherals and OS you've really only got $900 to play around with.

First off i'd swap the PSU and RAM to equally good but cheaper options and put that money into the motherboard. PCPartPicker part list 1
This motherboard has better onboard audio, crossfire support, and SATA Express for 10Mb/s transfer speed.

From there I would consider dropping the SSD or getting a cheapie keyboard and putting that money into a 280x and maybe better HDD like a WD black, but thats up to you.


Drop the Z and go for the H if it's cheaper. He won't be overclocking. I heard Xeons are basically i7 compatible with ecc ram but without the igpu. Maybe as well lower the MOBO and get a better CPU.


The first non-OC build i posted was Xeon w/ H series but he didn't bite.


It's a shame. Might be due to the lack of familiarity with the name then. He should go for it. Hyperthreading an everything.


It is a good build but at the same time, if it's not going to be used for rendering, it's not entirely necessary. More games will start using hyperthreading, but currently not many do.


Any of the two builds are fine. If overclocking is wanted, the K and Z97 chipset should be chosen. Otherwise Xeon is good.


*****I am lost.... so will I be using this build? ---> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rRgFT ALSO I plan on purchasing the oculus rift and virtuix omni to make a virtual reality set.... Will this PC handle these two accessories?


I don't recommend this processor with a Z chip. If it is a none K processor, go with a H97 chipset motherboard. Same with the Xeon. The Xeon is an i7 without the iGPU.

As for the rift, I cannot confirm nor deny for I am not certain.


*******Okay thanks you so much for the help! Now unfortunately I am not as well educated in this field as you guys seem to be! I would very much appreciate it if you could use me current parts list and configure it the way you see fit, some reminders are that I am not overclocking and do not plan to, and I am more then willing to trade any parts on my list-- but i really do like the case, so please try to keep the case! Thanks a lot guys for all the help! http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2rRgFT


[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VjpzhM) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VjpzhM/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31220v3) | $203.94 @ SuperBiiz
**CPU Cooler** | [Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-r...) | $29.99 @ Amazon
**Motherboard** | [ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97pro4) | $86.66 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx1600c9d...) | $74.99 @ NCIX US
**Storage** | [Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-driv...) | $74.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-h...) | $54.99 @ NCIX US
**Video Card** | [MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r9280gaming...) | $229.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-500rwt) | $108.00 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...) | $79.74 @ Amazon
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050) | $92.99 @ NCIX US
**Monitor** | [Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vx238h) | $159.99 @ Amazon
**Keyboard** | [SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/steelseries-keyboard-64121) | $49.99 @ Amazon
**Mouse** | [Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/razer-mouse-rz0100840100r3...) | $50.00 @ Amazon
**Headphones** | [Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-headphones-981000...) | $69.97 @ Amazon
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $1366.23

Get it double checked to be sure.
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July 15, 2014 10:42:23 AM

Or drop the cooler and get a higher frequency model

[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8FGbTW) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8FGbTW/by_merchant/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Xeon E3-1225 V3 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31225v3) | $220.98 @ SuperBiiz
**Motherboard** | [ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97pro4) | $86.66 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx1600c9d...) | $74.99 @ NCIX US
**Storage** | [Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-driv...) | $74.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-h...) | $54.99 @ NCIX US
**Video Card** | [MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r9280gaming...) | $229.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Corsair 500R White ATX Mid Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-500rwt) | $108.00 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb...) | $79.74 @ Amazon
**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit)](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050) | $92.99 @ NCIX US
**Monitor** | [Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vx238h) | $159.99 @ Amazon
**Keyboard** | [SteelSeries Apex [RAW] Wired Gaming Keyboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/steelseries-keyboard-64121) | $49.99 @ Amazon
**Mouse** | [Razer DeathAdder 2013 Wired Optical Mouse](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/razer-mouse-rz0100840100r3...) | $50.00 @ Amazon
**Headphones** | [Logitech G430 7.1 Channel Headset](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/logitech-headphones-981000...) | $69.97 @ Amazon
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available | $1353.28
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July 15, 2014 11:32:11 AM

numanator said:
Don't get the E3 1220v3 or E3 1225v3, neither has hyperthreading. Only the 1230v3 and above are hyperthreaded.

1220v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75052/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 4

1225v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75461/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 4

1230v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75054/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 8


I didn't know that lol
They have more cache than the i5's though.
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July 15, 2014 11:40:38 AM

CraniumZ said:
numanator said:
Don't get the E3 1220v3 or E3 1225v3, neither has hyperthreading. Only the 1230v3 and above are hyperthreaded.

1220v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75052/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 4

1225v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75461/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 4

1230v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75054/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 8


I didn't know that lol
They have more cache than the i5's though.


Yeah the 1220/1225 are basically larger cache, no i gpu, support ECC ram i5s, much better deal to grab the E3 1230v3/1231v3 if you are going the Xeon route IMO.
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July 15, 2014 11:46:28 AM

numanator said:
CraniumZ said:
numanator said:
Don't get the E3 1220v3 or E3 1225v3, neither has hyperthreading. Only the 1230v3 and above are hyperthreaded.

1220v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75052/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 4

1225v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75461/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 4

1230v3: http://ark.intel.com/products/75054/Intel-Xeon-Processo...
# of threads = 8


I didn't know that lol
They have more cache than the i5's though.


Yeah the 1220/1225 are basically larger cache, no i gpu, support ECC ram i5s, much better deal to grab the E3 1230v3/1231v3 if you are going the Xeon route IMO.


I agree. If he gets that, he is good to go.
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July 15, 2014 12:09:01 PM

Thank you all, and again like I asked earlier-- can someone please send me a link to pcpartpicker of the hard copy of your suggestions? That would be fantastic! Thank you all ounce again for all the help!
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July 15, 2014 12:18:13 PM

And a side question-- how powerful would a gaming PC be if you would do something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GyQX23
Now this would be a plan B in case I find out I am over budgeting what I am building--
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get me a hard copy of what we are discussing currently, and then tell me how well this build will run (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GyQX23)
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July 15, 2014 1:04:07 PM

MickeyPCbuilder said:
And a side question-- how powerful would a gaming PC be if you would do something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GyQX23
Now this would be a plan B in case I find out I am over budgeting what I am building--
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get me a hard copy of what we are discussing currently, and then tell me how well this build will run (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GyQX23)


Drop the SSD and go with a low end i5 and a 270x.
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July 15, 2014 2:07:17 PM

CraniumZ said:
MickeyPCbuilder said:
And a side question-- how powerful would a gaming PC be if you would do something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GyQX23
Now this would be a plan B in case I find out I am over budgeting what I am building--
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get me a hard copy of what we are discussing currently, and then tell me how well this build will run (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GyQX23)


Drop the SSD and go with a low end i5 and a 270x.


****Will it be a good gaming PC for a $700 budget? As in will it be worth its $700 value-- and how powerful will it be? For example, how well would BF4 run?
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July 16, 2014 2:47:14 AM

MickeyPCbuilder said:
CraniumZ said:
MickeyPCbuilder said:
And a side question-- how powerful would a gaming PC be if you would do something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GyQX23
Now this would be a plan B in case I find out I am over budgeting what I am building--
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get me a hard copy of what we are discussing currently, and then tell me how well this build will run (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GyQX23)


Drop the SSD and go with a low end i5 and a 270x.


****Will it be a good gaming PC for a $700 budget? As in will it be worth its $700 value-- and how powerful will it be? For example, how well would BF4 run?


With a low end i5 and a 270x.No less than 30 FPS on ultra with AA. Without AA and with some settings down to high you should quiet comfortably reach 60. Playing on high should give you a good FPS.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/03/10/amd_radeon_r9...
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July 16, 2014 5:39:25 AM

For a non-overclock $700 build, this is going to run pretty well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $690.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
The mobo supports crossfire, has M.2/SATA Express if you add an SSD later and will handle a better CPU (even Broadwell when it is released) without bottlenecking if you decide to upgrade later. Good quality PSU and GPU. If you could squeeze a few extra $ maybe upgrade the HDD to a WD Black as this will improve load speeds a little.

For a $900 build i'll post a few options (only changing cpu, ssd and GPU)
Option 1 $922 Xeon CPU, no SSD, R9 280x GPU
Option 2 $922 Xeon CPU, SSD, R9 280 GPU
Option 3 $887 i5-4690, SSD, R9 280 GPU
Option 4 $887 i5-4690, no SSD, R9 280x GPU
Option 5 $921 i5-4690, no SSD, R9 290 GPU, cheaper case.

I left the other parts (mobo, RAM etc) the same in each build as i think these are the best value. Obviously the case could be changed in all the options to reduce the price, and as I said about the HDD before, you might want to upgrade this to a WD black. The Xeon builds will perform better on applications that support hyperthreading, such as rendering and editing. The i5-4690 builds will perform better in gaming (except for the few games that support hyperthreading). The 280x builds (and to a greater extent the 290 build) will perform better in GPU intensive games, while the SSD builds will have much faster boot and load times. Also keep in mind that adding an SSD at a later date is easy, upgrading the GPU/CPU, not so much (as far as it is a 1 time cost and not something you have already spent money on).

If you're on a bit of a tighter budget, the $700 build in not a bad way to go. As i mentioned you can upgrade to Broadwell later on, drop in a second 270x and you'll have a really powerful build, although getting a single more powerful GPU is going to cause you less headaches than 2 lesser ones.

As for the VR accessories, I'm not sure about their compatibility, you might have to look these up yourself.

For the other peripherals and OS, $400 isn't a bad budget for these, you won't get the price down by much without sacrificing quality.
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