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July 14, 2014 9:51:07 PM

I need a good graphics card that can run dayz standalone on normal+ settings on 50+ FPS in the wild.
My budget it around $300
I already have a graphics card picked out, but have seen some bad reviews on it. Let me know of I should get a new one or keep it.
These are my specs
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mv8jBm

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a b U Graphics card
July 14, 2014 10:09:35 PM

I've got a Gigabyte 770, it runs DayZ SA really well. Why not get the Asus or MSI 770's? both are same price or cheaper as the PNY and are know to have good coolers.
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a b U Graphics card
July 14, 2014 10:11:36 PM

By the way are you building this computer or already have the rest of the parts?
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July 14, 2014 10:14:10 PM

About what FPS do you get in the wild and in big cities and at what quality?
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July 14, 2014 10:14:55 PM

Btw,
Do you know how to do the quoting thing?
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July 14, 2014 10:15:36 PM

I'm still planning out the build
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a b U Graphics card
July 14, 2014 10:37:05 PM

jamrockc said:
Btw,
Do you know how to do the quoting thing?


Like this? Click the 'reply to insertname' in the bottom right of the message you want to quote.

I've never bothered testing the frame rate. In the wild it has always been really smooth at highest settings so I never checked. In the cities I sometimes get some stutter, but so does my friend with a 780ti, so again I didn't bother testing, but i would hazard a guess at dropping to 15fps when really bad. Doesn't seem to happen so much now, but maybe i just spend less time in cities.

What are you planning on using the computer for? The parts combo is a little odd.


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July 14, 2014 11:02:12 PM

Oh and the reason it won't show the quoting thing is because I'm on my iPhone

And about the parts combo,
I was really just gonna have it as a gaming PC and play dayz sa a lot. I am going to install my so and my graphics card on my SSD to make it faster. Btw changed it up again a bit
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jzsnyc
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July 14, 2014 11:02:32 PM

I'm goin to install my os*
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a b U Graphics card
July 14, 2014 11:19:26 PM

Drop the RAM down to 8gb, you will only need 8 for gaming.
Don't get Corsair CX PSU's, they use cheap capacitors. Look to XFX, SeaSonic, Antec HCG or Rosewill Capstone for cheap PSU's.
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...
Scrap those fans for now and buy them later. You're better off putting your money towards quality parts at this stage.
Look at getting a Z97 series mobo. The Asrock Extreme4 is a good board if you can get it in your budget but get something that at least has M.2 or SATA Express and SLI support.
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July 15, 2014 9:48:32 AM

With the ram, my buddy is getting it for me for free. So why not? With the corsair power supply, I had it for my last computer, and I really liked it so I'm going to stick with. And I did get the mobo you suggested,
The z97 asrock extreme4
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a b U Graphics card
July 15, 2014 2:13:48 PM

jamrockc said:
With the ram, my buddy is getting it for me for free. So why not? With the corsair power supply, I had it for my last computer, and I really liked it so I'm going to stick with. And I did get the mobo you suggested,
The z97 asrock extreme4


I agree, if you're getting the RAM from a friend, why not. As to the PSU, again if you've already got it, I can see why you'd use it to save some money, just make sure you've got a fan blowing on it to keep it cool. Next time let us know which parts you already own, saves us time looking for alternatives.

With the mobo change it looks like a really good PC. The only other thing you might want to change is the HDD to a WD black, if you've got a bit of extra money.
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July 15, 2014 2:25:13 PM

Days relies way more on CPU... I had an i5 3330 with a gtx 780 playing it on its low settings and getting 40 ish. Moved to an i7 and over clocked and now play on its highest setting over 60 fps. So what I'm saying don't buy a GPU in hopes for performance gains in days up the cpu
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July 15, 2014 3:32:17 PM

Avocade said:
Days relies way more on CPU... I had an i5 3330 with a gtx 780 playing it on its low settings and getting 40 ish. Moved to an i7 and over clocked and now play on its highest setting over 60 fps. So what I'm saying don't buy a GPU in hopes for performance gains in days up the cpu


I've got an OC 4570K so an OCed 4690K should be enough for DayZ. I doubt it's optimised for hyperthreading.
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a b U Graphics card
July 15, 2014 5:02:55 PM

That's not what I was getting at I was suggesting that the CPU would be more important than a high end GPU in regards to DAYZ as the proprietary it's built on optimizes by changing the filter level the rather than the graphical fidelity.
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a b U Graphics card
July 15, 2014 5:32:05 PM

I understand what you are getting at. I'm just saying that within the same budget, it's not worth sacrificing the GPU to step up to an i7-k, as the i5-k will perform similarly except in tasks that are optimised for hyperthreading and overall will be a more balanced system.
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July 16, 2014 7:48:04 AM

Again I didnt say buy an i7 I said that was how "I" increased performance, the entire idea behind what I said was don't waste money in a GPU in regards to, "Dayz Performance" as it equates to very little of the performance. Get a GTX 760 or 660 or 670 just don't skimp on the CPU for this, "DayZ" build.
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July 16, 2014 3:39:00 PM

He's already putting a 4690K in his build, so he's not really skimping on the CPU, but assuming that changes in development don't reduce the dependance on the CPU, he could get a cheaper GPU. Remember DayZ only in alpha and it's moving to a new engine. This will possibly reduce the dependance CPU as one of the current issues is that the Zombies are full soldier builds and this puts a lot of strain on the CPU. If they are moving to a new engine, I see this as a likely change, because without it they cannot add more zombies without denying a lot of people entry to the game.

Also I'm assuming that while DayZ may be one of the main games he wants to play, he will probably want to play some other games, not all of which will be as CPU intensive as DayZ, so he will see benefits from a better GPU.

But if he is only playing DayZ, then yes he could get a cheaper GPU. Even an R9 270, paired with a good CPU, will play DayZ on high with decent fps in the wild, and maybe a few tweaks to the settings when in the cities, especially if they improve optimisation which is currently pretty rubbish.
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a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2014 5:39:46 PM

I saw 4670. Anyway the zombies aren't what make it CPU intensive its the graphic fidelity on Bohemias engine is comprised of layering filters instead of changing quality. With it changing engines you're right but without knowing which proprietary its moving to I'd still suggest the 760 as its still plenty capable. Also the game he is building this for was days so that was my target for bettering his performance.
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a b U Graphics card
July 16, 2014 8:48:04 PM

I read an article a while ago about the zombie thing, but i've also heard a lot about the layering too. They are building a new engine, and there has been some talk about changing the graphics, though the details on how they plan to change them have been vague, so i guess this may or may not reduce dependence on the CPU.

As i said, you are right in that a 760 will work for DayZ specifically, and he could save ~$100 or get an i7-k. You answered to brief in a more precise nature, but I still think it would be better overall to get a 4690k and 770 as this will give him greater performance in other games, as i doubt DayZ will be the only game he ever plays. Anyway it's really his choice which way to go now, he's got firm arguments for either GPU.
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July 17, 2014 5:22:35 AM

byza said:
I read an article a while ago about the zombie thing, but i've also heard a lot about the layering too. They are building a new engine, and there has been some talk about changing the graphics, though the details on how they plan to change them have been vague, so i guess this may or may not reduce dependence on the CPU.

As i said, you are right in that a 760 will work for DayZ specifically, and he could save ~$100 or get an i7-k. You answered to brief in a more precise nature, but I still think it would be better overall to get a 4690k and 770 as this will give him greater performance in other games, as i doubt DayZ will be the only game he ever plays. Anyway it's really his choice which way to go now, he's got firm arguments for either GPU.


So should I upgrade to i7?
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 6:00:53 AM

Its up to you there are benefits but you could got with a 4670. Really your safe either way. With an i7 your leaving lots of headroom however with a 4670 or what have you your still going to have plenty of power!
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July 17, 2014 6:47:14 AM

Avocade said:
Its up to you there are benefits but you could got with a 4670. Really your safe either way. With an i7 your leaving lots of headroom however with a 4670 or what have you your still going to have plenty of power!


Well,
Would I be able to run dayz at med-high settings and 50+ FPS in the wild?

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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 6:56:42 AM

Yes.
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July 17, 2014 3:16:05 PM

Avocade said:
Yes.


I was talking about a i5. Not sure if your talking about an i5 or i7
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 3:28:54 PM

The i7 is a more powerful CPU, but it gets this power through something called hyperthreading. I was about to try and explain it to you, but then I just went and found an easy article for you to read on it. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/hyperthreading-technology-...

I also went and found a review of the i5-4690K which compares it's overclocked performance with that of the i7-4790K. As you will see, while the i7 does perform mildly better in games, it doesn't seem like much of a performance boost for $100. If you look at page 3 and 4 of that review, you will see the i7 dominates when it comes to multi-tasking, rendering and editing. This is because not many games are optimised for hyperthreading. This will increase with time but currently, for gaming, it's not worth the extra money.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/07/03/intel-core-...
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 3:37:26 PM

jamrockc said:
Avocade said:
Yes.


I was talking about a i5. Not sure if your talking about an i5 or i7


Yes you will get 50+ frames with an i5-k or i7-k.
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July 17, 2014 4:30:51 PM

byza said:
The i7 is a more powerful CPU, but it gets this power through something called hyperthreading. I was about to try and explain it to you, but then I just went and found an easy article for you to read on it. http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/hyperthreading-technology-...

I also went and found a review of the i5-4690K which compares it's overclocked performance with that of the i7-4790K. As you will see, while the i7 does perform mildly better in games, it doesn't seem like much of a performance boost for $100. If you look at page 3 and 4 of that review, you will see the i7 dominates when it comes to multi-tasking, rendering and editing. This is because not many games are optimised for hyperthreading. This will increase with time but currently, for gaming, it's not worth the extra money.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/07/03/intel-core-...


Yea, i read something that the i7 is a huge step up in video editing/rendering which I won't be doing so I'm just going to stick with the i5

Also, would you have any other tweaks to my PC that would make it run better or reduce the price a bit?

Btw, thanks for all your help guys
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 4:34:13 PM

Can you post you post an update of your build so we can see what your current plan is?
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July 17, 2014 4:34:42 PM

Also I think with the 16gb of ram it will prob help out with multi tasking? Correct me if I'm wrong
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 5:49:12 PM

Personally i'd go for a full ATX board over a micro ATX board but if you prefer the mATX than go for it. If you don't have those fans already, put that money towards a WD Black HDD. Otherwise looks great. More RAM does help, which is why some workstation computers have so much RAM and it'll also mean the HDD will be used less.
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 6:22:49 PM

And don't worry about buying thermal paste. You'll get a tube with the CPU cooler.
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July 17, 2014 6:46:45 PM

byza said:
And don't worry about buying thermal paste. You'll get a tube with the CPU cooler.


Ok, just wanted to take precautions... Didn't want it to have no thermal paste and wait for that to come in... Also, I know you've done a lot for me, but can you suggest a tax board around 100$?
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 7:09:57 PM

I have no idea what a tax board is so i'm going to take a stab in the dark that you want a key board?
Do you want mechanical? If so what type of switches (the link below should give you some guidelines)?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mechanical-switch-k...
Do you want backlit keys?
Do you want tenkeyless?
Do you want macro keys?

Anything from Ducky, DAS or the Cooler Master QuickFire range is good. The Corsair K65 and K70 are good and i've got a Gigabyte Osmium that i've had for about a year and I really like it. I'd stay away from the Razer BlackWiddow because they have just started to make their own switches and haven't been on the market long enough the prove themselves.
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July 17, 2014 7:30:19 PM

byza said:
I have no idea what a tax board is so i'm going to take a stab in the dark that you want a key board?
Do you want mechanical? If so what type of switches (the link below should give you some guidelines)?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mechanical-switch-k...
Do you want backlit keys?
Do you want tenkeyless?
Do you want macro keys?

Anything from Ducky, DAS or the Cooler Master QuickFire range is good. The Corsair K65 and K70 are good and i've got a Gigabyte Osmium that i've had for about a year and I really like it. I'd stay away from the Razer BlackWiddow because they have just started to make their own switches and haven't been on the market long enough the prove themselves.


Dang dude, I'm sorry, I meant an atx board...auto correct
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July 17, 2014 7:44:45 PM

Yeah tax is a whole lot closer to atx than key... I was way off base.
I'd go for the Extreme4 but I looked at some reviews and the mATX gaming 5 seems to perform pretty well. I just tend to think that smaller board = less airflow, and also i've got a window so a mATX would look stubby.
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($115.99 @ Newegg)
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a b U Graphics card
July 17, 2014 7:55:42 PM

I'd drops the SSD and maybe the after market CPU cooler unless you are going to be over volting your CPU.... Id take that money and get like an Asus ROG Maximus line motherboard. Also why so much RAM? you only need 8 for Gaming. I work in Maya, Z-Brush, Photoshop, and Mudbox and don't even use 16GB's
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July 17, 2014 8:03:18 PM

Avocade said:
I'd drops the SSD and maybe the after market CPU cooler unless you are going to be over volting your CPU.... Id take that money and get like an Asus ROG Maximus line motherboard. Also why so much RAM? you only need 8 for Gaming. I work in Maya, Z-Brush, Photoshop, and Mudbox and don't even use 16GB's


He already said his mate is giving him the RAM.
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