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Advice needed on AMD 8350/9370 or INTEL i4770 upgrade

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July 15, 2014 4:07:15 AM

I did extensive research but I still have a hard time deciding which one to go with, so I hope with some extra input to finally make a decision.
The SPECS are set in stone, I am not going to change them so please keep the advice on the components mentioned, the only thing I could change is a 9370 instead of the 8350.
Live expectancy 3-5 years, I know that AM3+ EOL is around 2015 but I don't mind that. I know the benchmarks and power efficiencies difference looked @ countless CPU sites but they didn't give a big enough difference to base my final decision on (unfortunately).

I like to have real world input, mostly from people who use @least the same CPU's what are your experiences? Why would you advice met to go with either choice?

The worst thing for the AMD choice that I can think off, is that because of AMD dropping the modular design less games and software will be optimized for it.
( I am upgrading from a Athlon X2 4400, so I need a new mobo and memory, everything else is up to date) I will change my Graphics card later which is an AMD and probably the new one will also be an AMD.

As far as I can tell the AMD will serve it's purpose for the above time period without me complaining and the 160 euro's I have to spend less on the Intel will pay for the memory.
I really need to upgrade before the winter 2014 and I don't have to have the latest and the greatest and I don't want to spent more then 500 euro's on the CPU+MOBO.


INTEL
Intel Core i7 4770k
SKU: BX80646I74770K
MOBO: Asus Republic Of Gamers Maximus VI Formula (C2)
Total of 497.80 Euro

AMD
AMD FX-8350 Black Edition
SKU: FD8350FRHKBOX
MOBO: Asus Crosshair V, Formula-Z

Or the AMD FX-9370 Black Edition
SKU: FD9370FHHKBOF or FD9370FHHKWOF

Total of: 336,98 Euro


What do I use it for?

OS: Windows Professional x64
installed on a Samsung 850 SSD

Primarily
Gaming (I just named the most played or to be played)
SWTOR
Dragon Age III
Steam games
Rage, Crysis 3,Skyrim
Lots of other games ;) 
Blu-ray playback
Watch streaming movies (Netflix)
Watching anime

Secondary
Development (Visual Studio 2008/2010)
SQL Server 2008/2012 for Development purposes
Virtual Box (running virtual OS for testing)

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July 15, 2014 5:14:33 AM

I would question why you would consider the AMD solutions that require respectively 125W or 220W over the Intel solution that can do slightly more at 88W? Now only is that a lot more cooling, it's more expensive to operate and environmentally unfriendly.
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July 15, 2014 5:46:34 AM

Either will serve you well for 5 years, but I would go AMD Black and push for as much memory and as many cores as you can afford for SQL and VM's.

If in a couple of years you think it needs a quick lift, overclock.

Yes the Intel runs cooler and uses less electricity, but will it recoup the extra 161 Euro, maybe in resale value if it has any after 5 years.

As for OS, W7x64 Pro is good and reliable, but W8.1 Update x is starting to become popular and does have a few performance advantages.
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July 26, 2014 5:33:01 AM

I thought long about it and power could be a problem according to extreme.outervision
if I went with the AMD. I have an Seasonic X-760 which is pretty expensive and I don't want to upgrade that one already.

Setup with CrossFire

Intel they recommended 686W
AMD they recommended 719W
(this is with 2 R9 270X cards)

Setup without CrossFire
Intel they recommended 553W
AMD they recommended 586W

AMD doesn't leave me much room to add much stuff if I went for an CrossFire of SLI setup.

But I don't want to spend 160 euro more, so I did an intensive search and without compromise I found a build that is just 100 euro more expensive:

Intel Core i7-4790K
SKU: BX80646I74790K
MOBO: Asus Republic Of Gamers Z97 MAXIMUS VII HERO
Total of: 449,74 euro

So unfortunately I have to go with Intel and since AMD won't be back in the game until late 2015/2016 I have to go with Intel (cannot wait 2 years on a maybe, I need and upgrade now). I didn't have an Intel for years but I have to go with what is best economic, price and performance wise for me and if it is Intel so be it.
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July 26, 2014 6:06:20 AM

For your purposes, the Intel i5 will be just as good as the Intel i7. ANd that saves you a bundle of money. :) 
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July 26, 2014 9:37:01 AM

Go Intel
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July 26, 2014 5:56:28 PM


Karsten75 said:
For your purposes, the Intel i5 will be just as good as the Intel i7. ANd that saves you a bundle of money. :) 


an Intel Core i5-4690K is about 85 euro's cheaper but I don't think it will be good enough since for my design stuff an Intel Core i7 860 is having difficulty sometimes and since the i5 is just a bit faster overall I rather go for save.
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July 27, 2014 4:50:57 AM

My bad - I thought the design stuff was minor and the gaming was primary purpose. :)  when I design workstations for technical people, they look a little different inside and outside than gaming computers. But yes, then get the i7 by all means.
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July 27, 2014 7:53:56 AM

Karsten75 said:
My bad - I thought the design stuff was minor and the gaming was primary purpose. :)  when I design workstations for technical people, they look a little different inside and outside than gaming computers. But yes, then get the i7 by all means.


Yeah it's primary for gaming and secondary for design but by secondary I didn't mean minor. Thanks for the power reaction, although I was aware of that AMD uses more power, without your comment I wouldn't have looked into it in more detail and that would have cost me a new psu.
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July 27, 2014 8:09:11 AM

You're more than welcome. I often-times wish AMD could pull another rabbit out of a hat and get a really competitive CPU out there.
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