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Help with gaming build, medium budget (in around 1300 euro)

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July 17, 2014 1:56:06 PM

Hey guys,

I'm a complete nood hardware wise i only started looking into all this yesterday as i decided i want to get rid of all my gaming consoles and go pc. so basically since i already have a ps4 if im gonna get rid of that and go pc only which i'd like to do since pc gaming is a different league in regards to bf/counterstrike etc etc i at minimum want a noticable improvement in graphics and obviously a 60fps or close would be ideal (bf4/skyrim for eg.)

anyway here's what i've come across so far and it may be a needless or silly lineup of parts but please point me in the right direction if im off..

4th gen i7-4790 processor (8M Cache, up to 4.0 GHz)

AMD Radeon HD R9 270 2GB GDDR5

24GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz - 4 DIMMs

2tb sata hard drive 6gb/s +256 ssd

so i understand the gist of what these all do but im not sure how it all adds up together. for example is the 24gb ddr3 excessive? im aware the graphics card is probably medium enough but it should be able to run bf4 round 50 fps according to tests. i believe the test was carried on a 12gb ram, i7 4th gen with this card ??

are these the main things i should be concerned about regarding what the rig will be capable of gameplay wise? lastly if anyone could guess or recommend what would be needed for ultra skyrim settings at 60fps and a very high to ultra bf4 settings? and how that relates or may even be impossible for these parts. ?

thanks guys sorry the post is quite long any feedback would be greatly appreciated to boost my knowledge im finding it hard to find correlating information with all this everything seems to be disjointed that im finding on the internet.

thanks again
jackinyrsax

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July 17, 2014 2:00:21 PM

What is your budget?
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July 17, 2014 2:05:56 PM

hi around 1300. moneys not too much of an issue but would really like if i could keep it around that price and get the ability to play some of my preferred games on max settings or close anyway.
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July 17, 2014 2:07:22 PM

jackinyrsax said:
hi around 1300. moneys not too much of an issue but would really like if i could keep it around that price and get the ability to play some of my preferred games on max settings or close anyway.


Ok, I'll dig around for some parts.
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July 17, 2014 2:30:21 PM

harrisoncove said:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/harrisoncove/saved/D2fF...

Quite a bit over budget, but feel free to play around with it.


haha thanks man thats one serious rig. unfortunately its even more than you think cus im buying in euros so thats more like 2200 just a bit too much. thanks tho ill look more with it and see what i can do.

would you have any idea on the capabilities of the few parts i mentioned or how they would work in tandem?
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July 17, 2014 2:35:29 PM

guessing 1300 euros is more similar to maybe 1150 sterling if that helps (only a guess)
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July 17, 2014 2:36:31 PM

Ha, I thought you were in pounds :D  I think those parts would work great together though :) 
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July 17, 2014 2:39:35 PM

the parts i suggested or the ones you linked? they looked sexy by the way haha. if your referring to mine would they be capable you think of bf4 on high or ultra just so i have an idea. i know different games have different things they rely on more depending on the type of game but any idea?
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July 17, 2014 2:44:36 PM

jackinyrsax said:
the parts i suggested or the ones you linked? they looked sexy by the way haha. if your referring to mine would they be capable you think of bf4 on high or ultra just so i have an idea. i know different games have different things they rely on more depending on the type of game but any idea?


The ones you linked, although you could bump the GPU up a little?
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July 17, 2014 2:55:05 PM

Well first for a gaming rig you really do not need a i7. A i5 will do just fine for a gaming rig. As for the ram 8gig DDR3 1600 is more than adequate.

A i7-3970x on a LGA2011 motherboard is way way way overkill and would do you no good what so ever for a gaming rig.

A SSD is a good idea for the OS but get atleast a 120gig SSD 64gb is really to small even if it is just for the OS it will fill up very fast.

As for the mechanical HDD I would go for at least a 2TB drive. With the size of games anymore a 1TB drive can fill up faster than you would believe. I know on my own system between my Steam and Origin games I am using just over 3TB for those two library's and that is not including my Blu-Ray Rips and music that I have another 3TB drive dedicated to. All in all I have 8 3TB HDD's installed in my system plus two 240 SSD's one for Windows 8.1 and one for OS X Mavericks.
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July 17, 2014 4:26:18 PM

woops accidently clicked the solution thing my bad.

im still unsure though guys what is needed to run modern games on high/very high settings?? bf4/skyrim/batman/arma 3 whatever the game. what are the combinations that help the most or the most defining parts?
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July 17, 2014 5:13:49 PM

I'm getting this for 1300 euros:
Case: NZXT H440 Black/Red (The case might not work for you as it doesn't have an optical drive, I'd suggest something like a 500r if you don't like this one)
Motherboard: Maximus VII Ranger
CPU: I5 4690k
Graphics Card: Asus GTX 780
AIO: H110
HDD: Seagate ST2000DM001
PSU: RM650
RAM: Corsair Vengeance Pro 2133 MHz
The graphics card is the most important part in a gaming pc, the gtx 780 is much more powerful than the one you listed, and an i5-4690k is more than enough for any game, and you can overclock it if you feel the need.
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July 17, 2014 10:40:44 PM

If you have 1300 euros you really should be looking for the 780 ti's. but a 780 would allow you to spend more more elsewhere, like the motherboard and RAM and storage etc.
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July 18, 2014 3:57:25 AM

legend001523 said:
If you have 1300 euros you really should be looking for the 780 ti's. but a 780 would allow you to spend more more elsewhere, like the motherboard and RAM and storage etc.


ya i've been researching for ages now and the nivida gtx 770 and up seem to be the best for value but theres like a 200 jump between the 770 and 780? much difference in performance? also about the whole processor thing is i5 really enough for any hardcore gaming? and with future upgrading will a less powerful processor not bottleneck something eventually?

im getting confused as all pre-configured gaming pc's seem to promote i7's 4th gen. can anyone shed some light on this?

thanks for all the replies guys im starting to figure little things out a bit better.
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July 18, 2014 5:46:28 AM

Have you looked at what I'm proposing?

The most important part in a gaming build, is the graphics card, which is why I opted for a gtx 780.

Then comes the i5 4690k, it's more than powerful enough for any game you throw at it, and if down the road you feel you need more power, you can just overclock it. GPU bottlenecking is something that only really happens when you use a really underpowered CPU, the i5 has plenty of power, and watch this video to see what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAgpvWc4VBM . Pre-configured PCs might promote i7s, but that doesn't make them right, unless you're doing some really heavy video editing for example, you're not gonna notice any difference.

For the ram, 8gb is more than enough, I currently have 8gb, and I'm a heavy "multitasker", I can have 20 chrome tabs open while having a game running and a couple of other windows, and it doesn't go over 75% (the 2133 MHz isn't important at all, but on amazon.fr which is where I buy from, it's cheaper than the lower frequencies, so just go with 1600 MHz otherwise) .
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July 18, 2014 5:50:01 AM

A 780 is okay but again, with 1120 sterling, you really should opt for a 780 ti, even with a 780 ti, you still have enough money left, roughly 600-700 sterling pounds left for the rest of your build, and they only add i7 as the people who commonly buy pre configured pc's might not know as much so they will assume that by buying a i7, they are going to be getting better performance
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July 18, 2014 5:52:06 AM

Ytyoussef said:
Have you looked at what I'm proposing?

The most important part in a gaming build, is the graphics card, which is why I opted for a gtx 780.

Then comes the i5 4690k, it's more than powerful enough for any game you throw at it, and if down the road you feel you need more power, you can just overclock it. GPU bottlenecking is something that only really happens when you use a really underpowered CPU, the i5 has plenty of power, and watch this video to see what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAgpvWc4VBM . Pre-configured PCs might promote i7s, but that doesn't make them right, unless you're doing some really heavy video editing for example, you're not gonna notice any difference.

For the ram, 8gb is more than enough, I currently have 8gb, and I'm a heavy "multitasker", I can have 20 chrome tabs open while having a game running and a couple of other windows, and it doesn't go over 75% (the 2133 MHz isn't important at all, but on amazon.fr which is where I buy from, it's cheaper than the lower frequencies, so just go with 1600 MHz otherwise) .


thanks so much that helps alot im still saving but whenever im ready to go ahead ill post another thread if im unsure of anything. thanks again

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July 18, 2014 6:01:04 AM

You're welcome, glad I could help you ^^
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