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I've been out of the loop for a while and looking for some good speakers for gaming/listening to music

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July 17, 2014 10:20:05 PM

I'm debating whether I should downgrade to a 2 speaker setup or perhaps stay with 5.1 setup. My Logitech Z5500 5.1 Digital speakers seem to be on their final leg and I was wondering what's out there. I have some minor questions so hope this might help:

1- My system's sound card: Asus ROG Phoebus
2- I do like surround sound but if a 2 or 2.1 sound system are better; which ones?
3- Optical or analog?
4- HDMI? My monitor is the Asus IPS MX239H (AUDIO BY BANG & OLUFSEN ICEPOWER)
Right now it's DVI-D

I don't need a home theater setup. I'm not a audiophile. Something that will sound good with both my games (mixture of simulation games, strategy, FPS, and MMORPG's) and music from itunes and/or youtube.

Any ideas?

My full system setup:
Monitor stated above
Sound card stated above
MSi mPower z87 board w/ i7-3770K
16GB Ballistix Tracers ddr3-1600 RAM
Samsung 830 SSD for Windows 7
WD Velociraptor SATA III- 500GB for games (Steam)
WD Velociraptor SATA III- 600GB for games (Origin)
Logitech G500s gaming mouse
Logitech G15 gaming keyboard (yeah it's old)
Windows 7
LG DVD- R/RW (lol I haven't even used it at all)
Cooler Master Stryker Full tower
Corsair Modular PSU
MSI Gamer's Edition 780GTX (The red one)


Thank you!




July 17, 2014 10:30:51 PM

For 2.1 good quality music speakers I would recommend Altec Lansing 2.1 VS4121 or Altec Lansing Expressionist Ultra MX6021
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July 17, 2014 10:45:27 PM

whats your budget, i'm more of a high-fi guy, but i might be able to find a decent 2 speaker setup in a decent budget. I use 2 Monitor audio BX 2's for gaming and music in the bedroom, its a small room, and the bass from those 2 alone can knock things off my desk, i realize they are above your budget, but if a small bedroom, you can alot of room filling sound from a pair of small but decent quality speakers. And since you have a sound card u dint need a receiver, just a 2 channel power amplifier. you can get 50 watts per channel fairly cheap.

The reason i recommend this approach is mostly the music side, but also because you'll be amazed at how different certain game noises sound on speakers with a quality build.
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July 18, 2014 12:34:50 AM

Hello,

For action gaming (especially FPS like CS and the like) I highly recommend the multi-speaker systems (4.1, 5.1). For music, a nice 2.1 system (Logitech, Edifier, Corsair, etc.) or some stand-alone speakers + amplifier (as TheFluffyDog said above) will be much better.

The digital audio has a big advantage over analog signals providing the best quality and being less prone to EMI (electromagnetical interferences). It uses as well a single cable connection. The optical connection has also the advantage to provide complete electrical insulation between the PC and the amplifier. Your actual system was a very good option back in the day, as it could (and I think it still can :)  ) decode digital audio signals.

If you can live with much lower sound levels and the lack of powerful bass, you can surely use the built-in speakers from your monitor by using the HDMI connection (I hope these speakers can deliver the audio quality expected from B&O).
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July 18, 2014 11:04:53 PM

Thanks everyone. I don't want to go crazy concerning speakers and the budget. The sound quality using HDMI was actually decent. Does this tax my video card?

I was thinking of 5.1 as I'm use to the nice "surround sound." I was thinking of digital but I heard that the analogs have really gotten better or is this just chatter from someone who thinks they believe there own sh**? :)  lol
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July 18, 2014 11:09:00 PM

By the way, if I get 5.1, I don't know why but I always seem to muff up the setup. I was looking at some in the store (BB) and saw a Logitech 5.1 setup. It has Audio In (3 sockets) and right below it; I think it says stereo and 2 sockets. The setup (they had a demo out) had a wire with 2 connectors on both sides of it; black and pink, and a separate wire that's green on both sides. Who goes where in the sound card; sadly they didnt have it connected to a desktop/sound card. When I got home I was looking at my sound card and lucky me; no colors on the back. Im going to check the digital ones online.

These are the ones I saw in BB:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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July 19, 2014 1:04:49 AM

mikeny said:
By the way, if I get 5.1, I don't know why but I always seem to muff up the setup. I was looking at some in the store (BB) and saw a Logitech 5.1 setup. It has Audio In (3 sockets) and right below it; I think it says stereo and 2 sockets. The setup (they had a demo out) had a wire with 2 connectors on both sides of it; black and pink, and a separate wire that's green on both sides. Who goes where in the sound card; sadly they didnt have it connected to a desktop/sound card. When I got home I was looking at my sound card and lucky me; no colors on the back. Im going to check the digital ones online.

These are the ones I saw in BB:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Usually, the green one is for front speakers, the black one is for rear speakers and the pink is for center/sub. Your audio card should have some engravings next to each jack plug.

The analog signals are no better than digital in PC environment, as audio is digitally processed at first and then converted by DAC's in analog signal. The idea is that every conversion induces errors and therefore the converted signal is no more identical to the original one.
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August 19, 2014 1:57:18 PM

Awesome, thank you, everyone!
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August 19, 2014 2:05:55 PM

mikeny said:
Awesome, thank you, everyone!


So, have you changed your setup?
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August 19, 2014 6:27:39 PM

Cristi72 said:
mikeny said:
Awesome, thank you, everyone!


So, have you changed your setup?


Yes. Logitech Z506 5.1 speakers.

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August 19, 2014 11:17:56 PM

mikeny said:

Yes. Logitech Z506 5.1 speakers.



Well, it is more like a downgrade from your old Z5500, but is indeed more balanced (less bass) and produces good quality audio.

Have fun and enjoy your system!
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August 19, 2014 11:31:45 PM

Cristi72 said:
mikeny said:

Yes. Logitech Z506 5.1 speakers.



Well, it is more like a downgrade from your old Z5500, but is indeed more balanced (less bass) and produces good quality audio.

Have fun and enjoy your system!



Thanks. Indeed it is. It's digital brethren was close to $400. The old one I had, the bass was huge! I didn't see any digital options besides the $400 one and I wasn't going to go into home theater setups. BestBuy had it on sale for $50 so I grabbed them. I do miss the toslink which was very easy; one wire and poof; done :)  My sound card has crappy instructions on how to install the analog cables. On the bass, it's color coded, on my sound card; nope. The toslink socket does double as a analog socket also but not sure which color goes in it.
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August 20, 2014 8:05:16 AM

mikeny said:

Thanks. Indeed it is. It's digital brethren was close to $400. The old one I had, the bass was huge! I didn't see any digital options besides the $400 one and I wasn't going to go into home theater setups. BestBuy had it on sale for $50 so I grabbed them. I do miss the toslink which was very easy; one wire and poof; done :)  My sound card has crappy instructions on how to install the analog cables. On the bass, it's color coded, on my sound card; nope. The toslink socket does double as a analog socket also but not sure which color goes in it.


Phoebus has the side output as a digital/analog combo; to be sure: when activate the digital output connection you must see the light from the optical output inside the side jack plug (SIDE/Spdif out). Your sound card should came with a jack-to-Toslink adapter:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Optical-Toslink-Plug-3-5mm-Adap... (Of course, for Z506 you have no use for such adapter).

The corresponding colours for input cables plugs should be: green for the front speakers (FRONT), pink for rear speakers (REAR) and black for the center and the subwoofer (Ctr/Sbw). If you have other colour code on your Z506, mount all the speakers and test a single input at the time to find out which one is for front, for rear and for center/subwoofer (set the audio card to output only stereo and use only the FRONT output from the card).
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August 22, 2014 6:53:25 PM

Cristi72 said:
mikeny said:

Thanks. Indeed it is. It's digital brethren was close to $400. The old one I had, the bass was huge! I didn't see any digital options besides the $400 one and I wasn't going to go into home theater setups. BestBuy had it on sale for $50 so I grabbed them. I do miss the toslink which was very easy; one wire and poof; done :)  My sound card has crappy instructions on how to install the analog cables. On the bass, it's color coded, on my sound card; nope. The toslink socket does double as a analog socket also but not sure which color goes in it.


Phoebus has the side output as a digital/analog combo; to be sure: when activate the digital output connection you must see the light from the optical output inside the side jack plug (SIDE/Spdif out). Your sound card should came with a jack-to-Toslink adapter:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Optical-Toslink-Plug-3-5mm-Adap... (Of course, for Z506 you have no use for such adapter).

The corresponding colours for input cables plugs should be: green for the front speakers (FRONT), pink for rear speakers (REAR) and black for the center and the subwoofer (Ctr/Sbw). If you have other colour code on your Z506, mount all the speakers and test a single input at the time to find out which one is for front, for rear and for center/subwoofer (set the audio card to output only stereo and use only the FRONT output from the card).



No, I didn't need the adapter for the analog connections. My main brainfart is on the sound card where the cables go but Ill give it a go what you mentioned as the colors correspond to
Thanks :) 

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