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Low FPS with Asus R9 290X OC + FX 8350 what's wrong?

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July 18, 2014 9:01:51 AM

Hello!

I've completed my rig today with the final piece, the graphics card.
Ofcourse I wanted to test everything out and look if it's stable and performing highly, sadly I was kinda disappointed when I saw the frame rates, compared to what other people get.
With Crysis 3 I get around 20-50 FPS with completely everything on max.
BF4 with everything on highest spec I get around 50-90 DX11 (sometimes dropping to 40).
Both tested with 1920x1080.

My Build:
CPU: FX 8350 (Stock)
GPU: Asus R9 290X DCUIIOC (Stock)
RAM: Samsung/Nanya 12Gb DDR3 1333Mhz (Value stuff, not expensive nor powerful)
HDD: SG 1,5 TB (around 4 years old; Main Drive, all stuff installed here) WD 1 TB (Newly bought) both 6 Gbit/s
MB: M5A97 R2.0 EVO

Other people receive with a similar build way higher Frame rates and also way more stable ones compared to mine which sometimes drop down low.
What exactly could be holding me up here?

Hope you peeps can help me, cheers! :) 

Additional Information:
-My SG HDD is pretty old and takes over a minute to boot up my Windows 7, maybe this is the cause?
-GPU Clock is very stable at almost constantly 1050Mhz while gaming.
-CPU doesn't reach 100% utilization.
-RAM is old but working very well.

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July 18, 2014 9:09:20 AM

CPU and GPU temps when in game?
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July 18, 2014 9:16:25 AM

Does that board have heatsinks on its VRMs, or is the LE version that doesn't? If so, try a mild CPU overclock and see if your results improve.
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July 18, 2014 9:23:34 AM

Onus said:
Does that board have heatsinks on its VRMs, or is the LE version that doesn't? If so, try a mild CPU overclock and see if your results improve.

It's the normal edition. I've already tried OC at 4.3 Ghz and nothing changed.
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July 18, 2014 9:24:08 AM

Suztera said:
CPU and GPU temps when in game?

GPU: around 75/167°C (reaches upto 80°C/176F) CPU: 65-67°C (149F to 153 F)
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July 18, 2014 9:25:50 AM

M5A97 R2.0 EVO is a good 970 motherboard.
CPU temps might be a bit too high. What cpu cooler are you using?
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July 18, 2014 9:28:14 AM

Suztera said:
M5A97 R2.0 EVO is a good 970 motherboard.
CPU temps might be a bit too high. What cpu cooler are you using?

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July 18, 2014 9:37:49 AM

You may want to reapply the thermal paste and readjust your cpu cooler.
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July 18, 2014 9:44:35 AM

How about your case?
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July 18, 2014 9:48:12 AM

Suztera said:
You may want to reapply the thermal paste and readjust your cpu cooler.

Really? Do you think the heat on my CPU is causing the instability in games?
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July 18, 2014 9:53:47 AM

Embra said:
How about your case?

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July 18, 2014 9:59:16 AM

Temps are a bit high. I didn't see your PSU listed.
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July 18, 2014 10:01:05 AM

Embra said:
Temps are a bit high. I didn't see your PSU listed.

Completely forgot about it, I'm sorry.
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July 18, 2014 10:41:47 AM

That PSU probably won't last (it is made with inferior Samxon capacitors that degrade rapidly when heated), but is not a cause of FPS drops.
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July 18, 2014 11:19:27 AM

I've just done a Bios update for the Graphics card provided by Asus and it pulled the heat down to around 70°C with only 40% Fanspeed and also increased the performance slightly. But yet still I'm getting extreme drops when looking in fire or just randomly. Is it possible that a slow HDD can pull the performance down?
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July 18, 2014 11:30:24 AM

Zoning or spawning can be influenced by HDD speed, but not overall FPS. You may have some specific combination of settings turned up really high that the card doesn't handle well, like a particular variety of AA plus other things. If tessellation is maxed, turn it back one notch; same with ambient occlusion.
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July 18, 2014 11:49:57 AM

Onus said:
Zoning or spawning can be influenced by HDD speed, but not overall FPS. You may have some specific combination of settings turned up really high that the card doesn't handle well, like a particular variety of AA plus other things. If tessellation is maxed, turn it back one notch; same with ambient occlusion.

I have the settings set exactly like somebody else with the same build, the only difference is that I receive way lower frames, like 20-30 frames (BF4) less although mine is even a little higher clocked. How come that is even possible?
By the way how is the temperature that I am receiving, is it possible that everything is caused by that? Or what is wrong at all with my build?
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July 18, 2014 11:57:30 AM

Take off the overclock and see how it runs. Sometimes an overclock increases error rates or is otherwise unstable.
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July 18, 2014 12:07:08 PM

Onus said:
Take off the overclock and see how it runs. Sometimes an overclock increases error rates or is otherwise unstable.

Oh, that wasn't meant like that, my card is firm OC'ed and absolutely stable, not manualy clocked.
Should I try it anyway?
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July 18, 2014 12:39:46 PM

It won't hurt to try that, and if it helps, may ID the problem.
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July 18, 2014 1:30:40 PM

Onus said:
It won't hurt to try that, and if it helps, may ID the problem.

I've clocked my card down to what a R9 290X is normaly clocked, with these specs the instability is still there and now I drop even deeper (into the 3X area) while playing.
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July 18, 2014 1:41:14 PM

Set the factory clocks back then. You might rule out overheating of "something" (to be determined) by taking the side panel off and aiming a common household fan into the PC while you are playing.
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July 18, 2014 1:44:49 PM

Is your mobo bios been updated? Could be an issue there.
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July 18, 2014 3:21:10 PM

Onus said:
Set the factory clocks back then. You might rule out overheating of "something" (to be determined) by taking the side panel off and aiming a common household fan into the PC while you are playing.

My CPU is clearly the most heat dispensing thing in my PC besides the GPU (almost as hot). I'm going to add another fan and also do what Suztera recommended. Got any other tips for me?
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July 18, 2014 3:22:41 PM

Embra said:
Is your mobo bios been updated? Could be an issue there.

Alright, I'll do so. How do you know that there could be something with my mainboard bios?
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July 18, 2014 3:28:51 PM

lordcorn said:
Embra said:
Is your mobo bios been updated? Could be an issue there.

Alright, I'll do so. How do you know that there could be something with my mainboard bios?

Could be voltage fluctuations with newer hardware. A bios update my help address that is that is the case.

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July 18, 2014 5:14:57 PM

Embra said:
lordcorn said:
Embra said:
Is your mobo bios been updated? Could be an issue there.

Alright, I'll do so. How do you know that there could be something with my mainboard bios?

Could be voltage fluctuations with newer hardware. A bios update my help address that is that is the case.


Yeah, a bios update really did improve my ingame performance by almost 10 FPS! yet there still are moments where I just drop into the 40-45 area by random or in action moments (fire, explosion) are there any other things I can try to increase my frames furthermore or atleast get these drops away? And thanks for the Bios update idea! :) 
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July 18, 2014 8:42:12 PM

lordcorn said:
Embra said:
lordcorn said:
Embra said:
Is your mobo bios been updated? Could be an issue there.

Alright, I'll do so. How do you know that there could be something with my mainboard bios?

Could be voltage fluctuations with newer hardware. A bios update my help address that is that is the case.


Yeah, a bios update really did improve my ingame performance by almost 10 FPS! yet there still are moments where I just drop into the 40-45 area by random or in action moments (fire, explosion) are there any other things I can try to increase my frames furthermore or atleast get these drops away? And thanks for the Bios update idea! :) 


Turning off all power saving features in windows and bios can help.
Also you might want to check what pcie link state power management is set to, turn off for max performance.

Also having odd number of ram like that can cause lower performance. What sizes are your ram sticks? three 4gb sticks?

If so remove 1, 8gb dual channel in the proper slots of your mobo for optimal performance.

You should look into overclocking the ram to 1600mhz. The vast majority of ram should handle such an overclock no prob.

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July 18, 2014 10:15:31 PM

maxalge said:
lordcorn said:
Embra said:
lordcorn said:
Embra said:
Is your mobo bios been updated? Could be an issue there.

Alright, I'll do so. How do you know that there could be something with my mainboard bios?

Could be voltage fluctuations with newer hardware. A bios update my help address that is that is the case.


Yeah, a bios update really did improve my ingame performance by almost 10 FPS! yet there still are moments where I just drop into the 40-45 area by random or in action moments (fire, explosion) are there any other things I can try to increase my frames furthermore or atleast get these drops away? And thanks for the Bios update idea! :) 


Turning off all power saving features in windows and bios can help.
Also you might want to check what pcie link state power management is set to, turn off for max performance.

Also having odd number of ram like that can cause lower performance. What sizes are your ram sticks? three 4gb sticks?

If so remove 1, 8gb dual channel in the proper slots of your mobo for optimal performance.

You should look into overclocking the ram to 1600mhz. The vast majority of ram should handle such an overclock no prob.


There are no power savings set at all, everything on performance. I have 2x4Gb + 2x2Gb both set in dual channel, I will try to OC them and see what it will bait me. Any other things I should take a look at?
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July 19, 2014 8:09:04 AM

So now I overclocked my RAM to 1600Mhz and tested it out, the improvements are slight to none, not really a difference.
Are there any other ideas or possibility? :( 
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July 19, 2014 8:24:18 AM

Did you try the 8 gb ram dual channel setup like Maxalage suggested?
I still wonder if it's something with the mobo, and I am not so sure your PSU might be contributing.
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July 19, 2014 9:06:38 AM

i have Sapphire R9 290X TRI-X and the same FPS on DX11, on Mantle i have better FPS like 65-100~, no idea why on DX11 FPS is sux drops to 45~.
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July 19, 2014 10:24:20 AM

Embra said:
Did you try the 8 gb ram dual channel setup like Maxalage suggested?
I still wonder if it's something with the mobo, and I am not so sure your PSU might be contributing.

Yeah I did that, but with removing 2 of my 4 bars (the same ones ofcourse) nothing changed at all.
But what actualy did do something now was reapplying the thermal paste, temperature sunk from 65-67 to max 53 (°C), now atleast overheating isn't a problem anymore.
What do you think is the problem with the mainboard/PSU if there happens to be one?

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July 19, 2014 10:26:46 AM

GizmoMKD said:
i have Sapphire R9 290X TRI-X and the same FPS on DX11, on Mantle i have better FPS like 65-100~, no idea why on DX11 FPS is sux drops to 45~.

Really? What are your computer specs?
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