Need recommendations on which NVidia GPU to upgrade to

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I have an HP H8-1534 PC
Complete specs can be found here http://h20566.www2.hp.com/portal/site/hpsc/template.PAGE/public/kb/docDisplay/?javax.portlet.begCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.endCacheTok=com.vignette.cachetoken&javax.portlet.prp_ba847bafb2a2d782fcbb0710b053ce01=wsrp-navigationalState%3DdocId%253Demr_na-c03639067-4%257CdocLocale%253D%257CcalledBy%253D&javax.portlet.tpst=ba847bafb2a2d782fcbb0710b053ce01&sp4ts.oid=5330773&ac.admitted=1405712473389.876444892.199480143

AMD Fx 6350 6 Core PC
10 Gigs of DDR3 Ram
Win 8 64 bit
ATI Radeon 7570 HD Card
Standard 450 watt power supply
I plan to upgrade the power supply and ram to the system.

I'd like to spend no more than say $350-400 for a new card itself,something that runs everything great and can stay relevant for atleast 3-4 years. I'd like to avoid buying a card that requires additional fans or cooling for the PC though. I have about $600.00 total to spend on this upgrade.

I'd prefer something from NVidia as I've had trouble with ATI and their driver support in the past. I'm abit worried that a powerful card may have trouble fitting into the standard HP case though. Can someone recommend me something that would be a great card to buy,if it barely fits in the case thats fine,I bought an ATI card years back that was abit cramped for space with my previous PC so I guess I could squeeze it in again if its doable. An Nvidia card that can play between Ultra and High settings with smooth frame rates on a 1080 monitor would be fine. Thanks.
 
There is no doubt that this GTX760: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127772 will fit in your case.
Its cooler might get louder than dual-fan models, but measure the inside of your case before buying a longer card. A three-fan model like the Gigabyte Windforce will almost certainly NOT fit.
A GTX760 will run on a good 500W PSU. I would suggest a model build by Seasonic (their own, XFX), a 500W Antec Earthwatts, or 500W-550W Rosewill Capstone.
 
for that money the best card will be r9 290 but if u dont want to go with amd then u can get a gtx 770 ....either way u have to upgrade your psu to a minimum of 650 - 700 watt...gtx 770 minimum power recommendation is 42A and a 600W PSU minimum...and buy a good branded psu like seasonic or xfx ....the psu will cost u 100$
http://www.amazon.com/SeaSonic-650-Watt-CrossFire-Certified-SSR-650RM/dp/B00918N4A0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405714392&sr=8-1&keywords=seasonic+650
and the card will cost u 335$
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-SuperClocked-Graphics-02G-P4-2774-KR/dp/B00CZIQXBA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1405714453&sr=8-1&keywords=gtx+770

the card is 10.5 inches in length so check your case space before buying the card also i dont think your case will provide good cooling for the card high end card produces a lot of heat and if your case is not properly ventilated then the card can get overheated...so check that does your case has a front intake, rear and top exhaust fan space ...
 


yes i agree with u but he have the budget for 770 and he is wanting a future proof card that's why 770 would be my choice..
 

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Will look into all your recommendations,thanks. Yeah I'm concerned with heat and my PC casing being too small. If the card's abit loud that fine,I game in my bed room where the stereo is always on anyways so its like its a library here,heh. I've heard that I might be able to remove a slot from the back area where the cards are held? That would possibly make for abit more room? I hope its not something vital however. I don't do anything unusual with this PC outside of gaming,so I'm guessing I'll be able to do without the extra slot. Is that an option? Would that be enough make for a cramped card to just make it in? My PC case is standard,the side has tiny vents but i don't know if that would be enough to help with the over abundance of heat that a new card may bring. A 650 watt power supply would be enough? Or is it safer to go with abit more for extra over head?

Once home I'll measure the casing and check back with you all here tomorrow. Many thanks for the great info.
 
The budget allows for a GTX770, true. If it fits, that's the one I'd choose too for the sake of future-resistance, BUT the only one I know will fit is that short GTX760. Measurements are definitely necessary before choosing a card.
A 500W PSU is enough for a GTX760. A GTX770 will run on a good 550W PSU.
 

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Coozie7, I do frequent video editing with Sony Vega 13. I plan to upgrade to an another 8-10 Gigs to have 16-20 total. Do you think this is the smart way to go about it? As far as ram and future proofing goes,would 16-20 gigs be more than enough for the next 4 years? Or would i see diminishing returns based on my system specs with this much ram?

Onus,would I have to be concerned with a card having dual fans not being able to fit into the slot? By that I mean since it would have two fans, would it possibly have too much width and thus possibly not fit into the slot? Or should I just be concerned with the length of my PC casing only? Thanks for the power supply recommendations. I'll go with the more powerful one to be safe. Thanks.
 
You will need two slots to mount any of these cards. That should not be a problem; you'll simply remove two brackets. It is the overall length of the card that is likely to be the issue. The PCIe slot itself is standard, but the card could bump into the hard drive cage on the front of your case if it is too long.
 
Looks like my system is playing silly...SO I hope this hasn't double posted.
No harm with more memory, video editing can demand a lot of it, just try to stick with matched pairs in order to keep the dual channel memory feature working for best performance (4x4Gb or 4x8Gb) modern motherboards are usually very tolerant of mixed speeds and capacities but check the manual to ensure the configuration you have in mind is supported.
Maybe you selected me as best reply/solution by mistake, I've taken the liberty of deselecting me to reactivate the thread.
 

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Coozie7,my bad. I couldn't seem to find the reply button and i accidentally clicked "best solution" next to your name. Growing pains for me.I'll get the hang of this forum soon. heh. Yes I'll try to match the ram in in pairs for best results,thanks. The slots sizes in my PC are are 1,2,4, and 8 slots. I'm thinking of going with 20 Gigs altogether total and going with that amount with that for the next 4 years. Or do you think 32 would best best since I plan to game and do allot of video editing inbetween. Would 32 be a waste?

Onus, sounds familiar. Its been 4 years since I installed a card myself ,i do remember removing something like a bracket in order for the new card to fit properly. That card i installed requited allot of space, was a very tight fit but it worked out well. Hoping for the same results again. So i focus on the card's length and measure my case to see if both will play nice with each other, ok got it. One more question. A friend of mine tells me to just take the side panel off the PC if the card generates too much heat. Is that actually an adequate escape for all that heat? I guess it could work but it seems sort of weird to use this as a solution. Thanks for the great info to all of you.
 
I linked the MSI version of that in my first post.
I really like Asus motherboards; they're my first choice, and MSI is a distant third (behind ASRock). For video cards, however, I've had a 50% failure rate with my admittedly tiny sample of 4 Asus cards, all within hours or days of first use, so they're way behind MSI for video cards.
 

Got ya, I was on mobile and couldn't really tell. I couldn't find the Asus Mini for sale anywhere, so that MSI ITX card is the one that I would go for.

I guess first we need to know what kind of space is available in that HP case.

* Upon further review of the specs on that link, its a micro-ATX form factor, the smallest made. I'd stick with the smaller GTX 760s and buy from a place will allow you to return the card if it doesn't fit or work with that power supply.