My first WORKSTATION build - need advice and help

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I just got through PCMag's guide for building a PC however I have a few more questions that need answering.

I'm building a rig that will essentially be for audio/video/photo editing, and that already entails for me a lot of storage

in the PCMAG Guide that I read, it mentions different drive bays, 5.25, 3.5, 2.5 inches in size. My concern for the most part in picking a case outside from the obvious components is storage. What I am a little fuzzy on are the drive bays and the difference between internal and external, to an extent.

5.25 are solely for DVD/Blu-Ray optical drives? And they are external, correct?
3.5 are solely for storage hard drives and they are internal ?
2.5 is for SSD (which is to my understanding just a smaller sized hard drive) also internal

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Now as I've mentioned before my concern is storage for a rig I'm building so my question now is this and please correct me if I'm wrong; If I buy, say 3 internal hard drives and I want to connect them all through RAID to work as one massive drive - what do I need to pay attention to when making a purchase?

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CD/DVD/BLURAY burners and readers. If I need to write media on any of these three platforms does it mean I have to have 3 burners of each or is there a type of optical that actually can perform these tasks in one drive. If so then I should be buying a case with three 5.25 inch bays? and three separate burners? Also noob, but can burners also read data as a regular drive or would I need separate respective optical DRIVES - which would means total of 6 optical drives? or am I obviously misunderstanding this concept? Sorry I've never really built a system by myself hehe.

Thank you for being patient.

 
there are adapters that will allow you to use any size drive bay for an equivalent or smaller device. However, the optical bays are usually external, since they need to be accessible without opening the case when you want to insert or remove optical media. If you don't have that many optical units, you can put an adapter in the excess ones, and une them internally - just make sure you get some airflow if they're gonna run hot.

SSDs are like HDDs, but they're extremely fast and many people prefer their speed when rendering videos - a guy I know has one as a work drive to improve speed of rendering. They're expensive though, so many rigs have large HDDs for storing completed work products and infrequently access data and files.

Any Blu-ray burner will also read and burn DVDs and CDs
 

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So that answers one of the questions about optical drives, so I can essentially get one Blu-ray burner and not worry about getting separate CD / DVD burners/drives.

So to my understanding then - I should be investing into SSDs if I'm working with any audiovisual editing for faster render speeds? So then a good investment would be what - a main HDD of high capacity to install the OS on and invest into 2-3 high capacity SSDs for my audiovisual work?

that would mean I should be looking at a case that's got three to four 2.5 inch bays for SSD.
 
Here's what I recommend. Get one high-quality SSD in the 250 GB range as a boot drive.

Get a 2-4 TB hard drive as general storage.

Get a cheaper-lower-quallity SSD as a staging device. Beat the heck out of it and *if* (not always a given) it does in a few year's time, you just get a replacement and the installation is a snap - throw the old one out, plug the new one in and you're golden.
 

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1. Would the boot drive involve my editing software or solely OS
2. "staging device" I'm not sure what that means.
3. Any good recommendations for HDD and SSD brand names?
 
Depending on the size, it makes sense to put your frequently-used software on the primary or "boot" SSD. Treat it as your C: drive.

The "staging" SSD is a work disk. Use it to put raw video footage, and also the output of rendering or transformations. Once done, copy it to your HDD.

You cannot go wrong with the Samsung Evo 840 range as a primary SSD. They have incredible longevity and the prices are quite reasonable - you may be able to afford a 500GB one. :) As for hard drives, they're pretty much all in a bunch. ALl of them these days are very reliable. For the staging SSD, get the cheapest at the capacity you want, it'll still last a good few years. :)
 
Based on our PM conversation (yes, I found this thread again :) ) and on the topic of a viable "low-end workstation) within some of the requirements you listed, I put this together. I can probably make a few accommodations to bring it down to <$2,000 (US).

I'm just putting this out here so I can find it again. :)

Not that it allows for quad-channel memory and has an additional cheapo SSD for interim work space during rendering operations. There are many more PCIe lanes on the mobo, some of which are used to get to the memory.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-3820 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($302.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($214.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($315.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: PNY Optima 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($199.56 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: Intel BXTS13X Water/Liquid Cooling Thermal Solution for Socket LGA1150/ LGA2011 / LGA1366 / LGA1156 / LGA1155 ($94.99)
Total: $2113.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-24 11:54 EDT-0400
 

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I see you've chosen that particular CPU. So I'm curious what is the difference between that CPU and this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116940 which just costs a few bucks more. 3.6Mhz vs 3.7Mhz? I've never overclocked before so I'm assuming it's just easily overclockable and therefore the extra Mhz isn't a dealbreaker.

Reading the reviews for that 32gb memory, sounds like exactly what I'll be needing for the editing work.

The Mobo reviews are iffy. What about going with ASUS - anything particular or different between those and the one you've chosen?
 
That's actually a nice bump in performance.. It gets really complicated to configure these higher-end systems as there aren't that much expertise going round in them than, for instance, high-end gaming systems. :)

It might be that you're better off with an IVB-E Xeon processor, for instance. Ill spend some time looking into it. In the meantime I'll replace the processor with the IVB-E 4820K.

Here is an outline of the issue. And then one has to figure out which motherboard is compatible with which processor and if one makes a mistake, it's a very costly mistake. :(

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7773/intels-three-versions-of-socket-2011-not-compatible

I really don't recommend overclocking, but if you want, go for it. :)