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Need an i7 board compatible with the rest of my existing rig

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July 18, 2014 8:43:02 PM

It would seem that it does not make sense to upgrade my CPU to match my outdated board, so what i7 motherboard and processor can I get that will work with my existing rig? I assume the biggest issue would be that it needs to be compatible with my existing RAM. I just don't have loads of money to spend on a completely new system. If someone can at least point me in the right direction, I would greatly appreciate it!

I used Belarc Advisor to retrieve the following information:

Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United States)
Installed: 10/4/2012 5:19:33 AM
System Model:
Gateway E-4610D SB 54.10121.051
System Serial Number: 0037444512
Chassis Serial Number: 0037444512
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a Main Circuit Board b
1.87 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo
64 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (2 total)
Not hyper-threaded Board: Intel Corporation DQ965MT AAD36265-503
Serial Number: AZMT643001LL
Bus Clock: 266 megahertz
BIOS: Intel Corp. CO96510J.15A.0191.2007.0912.1941 09/12/2007
Drives Memory Modules c,d
320.04 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
159.05 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GSA-H20L SCSI CdRom Device [Optical drive]
IDE-DVD ROM 16x SCSI CdRom Device [Optical drive]

ST3160812AS [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 0, s/n 9LS09Z19, rev 3.AHH, SMART Status: Healthy
ST3160812AS [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 1, s/n 5LS6RVDG, rev 3.AAE, SMART Status:

Healthy 8126 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
Crucial 4x2 DDR PC2-6400, 240 pin

Slot 'J6H1' has 2048 MB
Slot 'J6H2' has 2048 MB
Slot 'J6J1' has 2048 MB
Slot 'J6J2' has 2048 MB

Local Drive Volumes


c: (NTFS on drive 0) * 150.83 GB 30.29 GB free
d: (NTFS on drive 1) 155.61 GB 115.17 GB free
e: (FAT32 on drive 0) 9.18 GB 9.18 GB free
f: (FAT32 on drive 1) 4.40 GB 4.40 GB free

* Operating System is installed on c:

Network Drives
None discovered

Dell Fax Driver on LPT1:
Dell V520 Series on Dell_V520_Series_BE6441_P1
Dell V520 Series on WSD-02b77f6b-21a1-4925-85dd-ba0592697fad.003d
Microsoft Shared Fax Driver on SHRFAX:
Microsoft XPS Document Writer on XPSPort:
Nitro Reader Driver 3 on Nitro PDF Port:
Send to Microsoft OneNote 15 Driver on nul:

Controllers Display
ATA Channel 0 [Controller] (3x)
ATA Channel 1 [Controller] (3x)
Intel(R) ICH8 2 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2825
Intel(R) ICH8 4 port Serial ATA Storage Controller - 2820
Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series [Display adapter]
ViewSonic VA2333 SERIES [Monitor] (23.1"vis, s/n S46111901242, May 2011)
Bus Adapters Multimedia
Generic Marvell 61xx RAID Controller
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2830
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2831
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2832
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2834
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB Universal Host Controller - 2835
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 2836
Intel(R) ICH8 Family USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 283A
AMD High Definition Audio Device
Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC

Virus Protection [Back to Top] Group Policies

Panda Internet Security 2014
None discovered
Communications Other Devices
PCI Soft Data Fax Modem with SmartCP

↑ Intel(R) 82566DM Gigabit Network Connection
Connection Speed: 1 Gbps
Microsoft 6to4 Adapter
Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

HID-compliant consumer control device (3x)
HID-compliant device (2x)
USB Input Device
Microsoft USB Dual Receiver Wireless Keyboard (Mouse and Keyboard Center)
Microsoft USB Dual Receiver Wireless Mouse (Mouse and Keyboard Center)
Trusted Platform Module 1.2
Microsoft Mouse and Keyboard Detection Driver (USB)
USB Root Hub (7x)
Generic volume shadow copy
ZCL OHCI compatible Driver
USB Storage Use in past 30 Days (mouse over last used for details) Hosted Virtual Machines (mouse over name for details)

BUFFALO External HDD, s/n 010960003AD9, rev 0001 6/18/2014 6:49:33 PM*

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July 18, 2014 8:49:10 PM

unfortunately no core i cpu is compatible with ddr2 ram

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July 18, 2014 8:50:57 PM

That's a bunch of useless info.

Is this a pre-built? If so, what make and model? What motherboard? Dell ????? What ram is in it?

You'll need a mobo same size - eg ATX. You might need new ram too. Old Dells have different power supply connectors to the motherboard so you might need a new power supply too.

9 out of 10 proposals to do an upgrade to a Dell here end up with the OP giving up the idea. It's cheaper to build a new pc
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Anonymous
July 18, 2014 8:51:15 PM

Thanks. I guess I will just have to tough it out until I can buy a new desktop.
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Anonymous
July 18, 2014 8:53:27 PM

The info you asked for is all there in my thread. Funny how the expert geeks complain when there is too little info AND when there is too much. I think I am done with this board. Just rude...
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July 18, 2014 8:57:35 PM

What make and model Dell?

What ram?

What motherboard?

None of that is in there.

We don't need 90% of what you posted. If you don't help us then its harder for us to help you. We volunteer. So we can pick and choose who we help. If someone gives me attitude then I just stop tracking their thread.

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July 18, 2014 8:59:09 PM

i7Baby said:
That's a bunch of useless info.

Is this a pre-built? If so, what make and model? What motherboard? Dell ????? What ram is in it?

You'll need a mobo same size - eg ATX. You might need new ram too. Old Dells have different power supply connectors to the motherboard so you might need a new power supply too.

9 out of 10 proposals to do an upgrade to a Dell here end up with the OP giving up the idea. It's cheaper to build a new pc


Its a Gateway E-4610D; right in the middle of all that "useless" info.
you're right, it's not "great" info but the OP posted enough info to get him some sort of recomendation.

OP- here is my suggestion

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July 18, 2014 9:05:05 PM

that's a mATX tower...

this is what i would do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $447.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


this should work with your existing hardware, as well as your existing psu. it's also right in line what you probably expected to pay for a i7+ motherboard.
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July 18, 2014 9:15:12 PM

Anonymous said:
The info you asked for is all there in my thread. Funny how the expert geeks complain when there is too little info AND when there is too much. I think I am done with this board. Just rude...


Hi,
You did provide nearly all the information needed. Sorry some people were a bit rude.

I thought I'd give you a bit more info.

1) If you don't play video games, or do something processor intensive like converting video there's little point in building a new PC.

I mention this because your video card appears to be very basic (HD4300/4500 series).

2) If your system just appears "sluggish" then maybe you should consider getting an SSD then clone your drive to that. There are 128GB SSD's for $60 or 250GB for about $120 that may suit your needs if you can move or delete enough data to clone the HDD to the SSD.

3) There's very little worthwhile saving on your existing PC. Basically:
a) Hard Drive
b) Case (if you like it)

4) You can actually play around building a new PC here: http://pcpartpicker.com/

With help, you can design a much better computer than you could buy (at least a lot cheaper) but again it's a WASTE OF MONEY if you don't do anything that would benefit. So if you do web surfing, watch videos, and use basic programs you are already set.

5) *VIDEO CARD and gaming:
You mention the CPU, but also don't appear to have much PC knowledge or even state the PURPOSE of upgrading. If you just want a little more GAMING performance then you could just buy a better video card. It won't be a top-end gaming system obviously but a lot of games would run pretty well. You could even install Steam and try various DEMOS to see how your system performs. An older game, Half Life 2, is an example of a game that would run really well and there's a lot. Conversely, I don't think Battlefield 4, Crysis 3, Metro LL, Starcraft 2 and similar games are worth getting mainly because they are very CPU intensive.

Here's a very good video card for $130 after MIR of $20:
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-gtx750tioc...

It's also a card that should be fine with most 300Watt power supplies as it's very power efficient (new Maxwell GPU architecture).

Here's how you would install the card:
a) uninstall AMD video drivers (add/remove)
b) shut down and remove video card (or disable video in BIOS if it's on the motherboard)
c) install video card
d) start PC then download and install the drivers (go to NVidia to get them)

Other:
1) You can actually monitor your CPU usage to see if it's even being maxed out. Task Manager (CTRL-ALT-DEL...)-> Performance. You should show BOTH cores (two graphs). If at least one of them isn't 100% usage a new CPU in whatever you are currently doing would make no difference.

(Some programs can only use a single core which is why you need to show both graphs. So you might see 100% usage on the first graph from the single-threaded program being limited by your CPU and 20% usage on the other graph from Windows itself. If you only had a single graph it does an AVERAGE of both cores and would show 60% usage which doesn't tell you if a better CPU would help.

If BOTH cores however showed 60% then there's no bottleneck from the CPU.)

2) For watching VIDEOS if you have any downloaded, I prefer the program K-Lite. http://www.codecguide.com/download_kl.htm
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July 18, 2014 10:24:14 PM

ingtar33 said:
that's a mATX tower...

this is what i would do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $447.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


this should work with your existing hardware, as well as your existing psu. it's also right in line what you probably expected to pay for a i7+ motherboard.


Don't forget about the power source .. his might not able to use on the new MB and videocard
also new hard drive too because it sata3 now much faster and cheap too
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July 19, 2014 10:42:32 AM

Godto said:
ingtar33 said:
that's a mATX tower...

this is what i would do.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $447.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available


this should work with your existing hardware, as well as your existing psu. it's also right in line what you probably expected to pay for a i7+ motherboard.


Don't forget about the power source .. his might not able to use on the new MB and videocard
also new hard drive too because it sata3 now much faster and cheap too


Gateway isn't dell. they don't use proprietary power plugs. so a new board will just plug in. as long as it's a 300-400W unit it will work

and while he'll get a nice jump by replacing the hard drives, the OP didn't ask for such an upgrade. seemed to me like he was doing it on a shoestring budget. that's the best you can do on a tight budget i think.
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July 19, 2014 2:12:50 PM

Hi
I was in the same spot just a few days ago. I don't know your skill level or computer needs, but the setup looks to be 4 or 5 years old or older. So about all you will be able to salvage is the hard drives, power supply(maybe depending on size) case keyboards, mouse monitor and things like that. It's not all bad though. You can find a mobo, chip, and ram combo in the i3 i5 i7 intel setups pretty inexpensively. If you prefer AMD over Intel setups it might even be less money. If you are looking for a e-mail web surfer and plan to just stream video's and things like that you don't need to spend a lot of money to get going again. If you want a rip snortin game playing GOD box, well empty your piggy bank cause that'll cost and cost and cost...lol. A huge number of the new mobo's come with onboard everything sound video even wifi if you want it. I think you could get going again for $300.00 to $500.00 Do a search on this site for combination motherboards. They do really good reviews here.
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