upgrade for my PC , max oc potential.

wickreD · Jul 18, 2014

Hey,

Lately my AMD 750k been dissappointing me in terms of performence and overclocking,
So i decided to stick my hand into my wallet and buy something that will last for some time.

My current setup:
AMD Athlon 750k @ 3.7ghz
4GB of kingston blu ram [will be getting another stick before the upgrade]
GA-A88XM-DS2 mb
Sapphire 7870XT 2gb
Seasonic SII-620 w psu
Corsair A70 cpu cooler.

Im leaning towards getting an i5 4690k since i would like to switch back to intel,
1.how is it thermal wise? i heared intels new cpus are pretty hot.
2.what mobo do you recommend ? for maximum oc, no sli\cf , and price as low as possible
3.is the upgrade worth it? i mainly play dota and fifa but sometimes i play games like bf4 and i feel like the cpu is really holding my system back. plus i want to run gta v on maximum settings or atleast the max my gpu can hold.

Thanks alot!

Iron124 · Jul 18, 2014

If you're only getting 3.7Ghz with a 750k and watercooling, something is wrong. I've seen that chip get up to 5+Ghz with proper cooling. And while that of course doesn't mean EVERY chip will get that much, the chances of getting a chip that maxes out a measly 300Mhz over the advertised stock frequency, especially from AMD, is slim to none. How are you currently overclocking your rig? Are you getting an instability when you go higher than that?

The i5 4690k is an excellent overclockable CPU that many gamers use for Mid-to-High end rigs. Any Z97 MOBO of your choice should be able to overclock it very well with no problems.

DroneDroneDrone · Jul 19, 2014

You'll need a Z97 mobo to OC the 4690k. Yes the upgrade is worth it as intel CPU tend to do better than AMD's budget CPUs gaming wise

wickreD · Jul 19, 2014

Iron124 :

I can clock it upto 4.2ghz or even highr , problem is i didn't do my research and apparently there is no vrm cooling on my mobo , so even tough my cpu temps are low , vrms tend to get hot and throttle down the cpu alot [down to 1.4ghz] , i decided to keep it at 3.7 to make sure i won't get any throttling issues.

thats why i decided to come here asking about the upgrade and mobo, since i want to make sure i won't make the same mistake i did. its a shame considering the cpu and mb are only 3 months old.

well, atleast now i know.

and are there any recommendations? as for brands i should look for ? i heard vrm throttling isn't too rare in asus motherboards.

Iron124 · Jul 19, 2014

wickreD :

That's unfortunate, your motherboard is what is holding the CPU back, not the CPU itself. You might want to RMA the motherboard (many companies will take returns up to a year) and explain that temps are not within safe operating limits. At least you could get some money back for it. Either that, or try to sell used...

Anyway, always go for a Z97 MOBO when overclocking. These boards are typically fairly pricey ($100 minimum) but are designed with overclocking in mind. Many people swear by many different brands, but I hear MSI and ASUS are pretty good choices.

wickreD · Jul 19, 2014

Iron124 :

wickreD :

That's unfortunate, your motherboard is what is holding the CPU back, not the CPU itself. You might want to RMA the motherboard (many companies will take returns up to a year) and explain that temps are not within safe operating limits. At least you could get some money back for it. Either that, or try to sell used...

Anyway, always go for a Z97 MOBO when overclocking. These boards are typically fairly pricey ($100 minimum) but are designed with overclocking in mind. Many people swear by many different brands, but I hear MSI and ASUS are pretty good choices.

i can't really rma since the mb does what its supposed to because on stock clocks theres no throttling.

ok final question , what would be the intel equivalent of a 750k @ 3.7ghz and @ 4.3ghz?

Iron124 · Jul 19, 2014

wickreD :

That's kinda hard to put a direct equivalent on, considering Intel loves to charge a premium for their CPU's. However, the most common comparison I've seen is Intel's $75 Pentium G3258 Unlocked processor. Tom's recently wrote an article, here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-overclocking-performance,3849.html

In most applications, it can go toe-to-toe with the 750k, even defeating it in some aspects, while losing in others (most multi-cored applications, as it's dual-core vs. quad-core) but what really holds the 3258 back is the fact that you need a Z97 MOBO to overclock it, and you won't find one for under $100. Compare that to a comparably priced AMD MOBO with overclocking for $50 or even lower, and the chip loses most of it's bargain value.

The Z97 MOBO however, can take up to an I7, leaving a much healthier and future-proof upgrade path. Really, it all comes down to preference, and what you wanna do with it.

wickreD · Jul 19, 2014

Iron124 :

wickreD :

That's kinda hard to put a direct equivalent on, considering Intel loves to charge a premium for their CPU's. However, the most common comparison I've seen is Intel's $75 Pentium G3258 Unlocked processor. Tom's recently wrote an article, here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-overclocking-performance,3849.html

In most applications, it can go toe-to-toe with the 750k, even defeating it in some aspects, while losing in others (most multi-cored applications, as it's dual-core vs. quad-core) but what really holds the 3258 back is the fact that you need a Z97 MOBO to overclock it, and you won't find one for under $100. Compare that to a comparably priced AMD MOBO with overclocking for $50 or even lower, and the chip loses most of it's bargain value.

The Z97 MOBO however, can take up to an I7, leaving a much healthier and future-proof upgrade path. Really, it all comes down to preference, and what you wanna do with it.

alright man , thanks i guess ill get the 4690k and just take a decent z97 mobo.

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