Closed Loop Vs Custom Loop

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Holy heck, after hours upon hours getting my custom loop together and leak testing it for a day. After all that work, all that money (In this case $200) and all that fear that something might go wrong what am I left with?

Well, uhm, 33 Degrees celsius under load running a balls to the walls overclock on my 780 Ti while it's overvolted to all hell. Stable as all heck too.

After getting my feet wet (hurr) with custom loop water cooling I got curious as to why closed loop is just so inferior when it comes to performance and cost of the systems. Yes closed loop is generally cheaper but is it the fact the pumps are small, the tubes are small, and the coolant is different (I think?) that makes the overall temperature difference not even in the realm of comparison (at least in my tests) when compared to custom loops?

I'm by no means a water cooling expert, all I did was strap a water block to my 780 Ti/ CPU and used some elbow grease (a metric tonne of it) to get everything connected and checked. But it seems that the extra effort is really worth it in the performance department. Why is that?
 
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Generally it's the pump or the size of the rad that gives that performance difference between Closed and Custom loops.

With AIOs, the pump is built right into the block, and 'said block is usually fairly small. When you compare it to a 'proper' custom pump, it's a damn sight bigger. This means that the liquid can fly through the loop at greater speeds, warmer water is carried away quicker and subsequently colder water returned more quickly.

There's also compromises made in other areas too. When you consider that a half-decent custom CPU block is pretty much all copper, compared to the thin sheet of it most often in use on an AIO. The area for the coolant in the block is also greater when you consider that those with the pump built...

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While I agree with you online seems to be the worst place to purchase water cooling supplies. I picked up the famous Swiftech D5 for $50 at a very good local store on sale, this is the best of the best when it comes to solid pumps even for a GPU/CPU/Dual 360 Rad setup.

You do have a point though; closed loop 240s seem to cost around the $100 range so they must be compromising somewhere.
 

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When I first started thinking about liquid coolers, I was pretty excited about Closed loops like the H100i, it seems the best of all worlds, simple, cheap,efficient. The more I learn about water cooling however, the more I see the shortcomings of the boxed systems like the H100i. From everything I have read, for the price point it shows no advantage over a modest Air cooler like the 212 with a pair of Noctuas on it.
 
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Generally it's the pump or the size of the rad that gives that performance difference between Closed and Custom loops.

With AIOs, the pump is built right into the block, and 'said block is usually fairly small. When you compare it to a 'proper' custom pump, it's a damn sight bigger. This means that the liquid can fly through the loop at greater speeds, warmer water is carried away quicker and subsequently colder water returned more quickly.

There's also compromises made in other areas too. When you consider that a half-decent custom CPU block is pretty much all copper, compared to the thin sheet of it most often in use on an AIO. The area for the coolant in the block is also greater when you consider that those with the pump built in have to reserve space for the PCB etc...

I wouldn't say there's much difference in the liquid itself, or in the tubing. Most modern AIOs have quite thick rubber tubing that honestly, if it was available, I'd choose over the standard acrylic for a custom loop any day.
Aside from advantages in colour and/or anti-microbe capabilities I wouldn't say there's much temperature difference between the liquids. AIOs pretty much all use what is essentially anti-freeze, for the sake of longevity claims, while custom loops can be anything from basic distilled water, to coolants designed with colour or anti-fungi in mind.
I'm sure there's a minimal difference between them, but not enough for the extreme temperature difference compared between both types of method.

Finally, not forgetting of course, the radiator/s. Probably the things that cause the most difference. Custom loops will often have much thicker rads, with lower fin-density, more of them - or just generally bigger.
They may also be made out of higher quality metals.

It's not often that you see a dual-thick radiator on the market, although they do obviously exist. Some custom radiators go even thicker than that.
At the end of the day the more surface area you throw at something the better it's going to dissipate heat, this applies to both air and liquid cooling.
Custom loops just offer far more in the way of longer, thicker radiators. To my knowledge there's only one 360mm AIO and that comes from Fractal (and I don't even think that's out yet).

Basically, the faster pump helps a lot, as does the larger radiators.
AIOs are a perfectly logical option when you consider how expensive a full-on custom loop can be, I personally prefer them over large air cooling towers just down to their ability to be mounted in areas with no obstruction. Plus, they look dope.
Being on par with a giant lump of metal isn't exactly a bad thing.
 
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Block, pump and radiator are all lower quality of most custom loop gear simply for a cost vs. performance edge. CPU blocks aren't typically designed with as much performance and flow in mind, radiators are usually aluminum in AIO's vs. copper/brass in custom gear and almost any pump you buy that isn't an AIO has better flow and head pressure.