Amd fx 8320 vs Amd fx 8350 + i'm angry!

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The first question is: i chose in amazon to buy a fx 8350 + r9 290, but, now i'm thinking
to get the fx 8320! Does it bottlenecks the r9 290 at stock speed? Does it do that if i get fx 8350's speed ? I also chose the m5a99fx pro r2.0 mobo + hyper 212 evo. The graphics card is the Sapphire tri-X!

I'm Angry, yes! Who is Intel ? A GOD ? Are they products so perfect ? Intel i5-4440 is better than fx 8320 i heard.. why ? Why i5-4670 is better ? In every thread oh!

Just to say "if you buy fx 8320, you'll get 5 fps in every game existent in this world, instead with intel you are safe!". I don't hate Intel, but i hate the people who think it's the only good cpu vendor! Why fx is so disappointed for much! People say Intel has more single core performace: well? What does it mean ? It means that AMD has 0% core performance ? I am making a pc with 1400€ in Italy, i'm using AMD over Intel, is that a Crime ?

Thanks and sorry for the long worlds
 
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The 8320 and 8350 are almost identical in performance. I have all AMD gear. But the truth is that Intel cores are much more efficient. A four core I5 has roughly the same compute power as an eight core 8350. Since most programs are poorly threaded the four stronger cores will outperform the eight cores 90% of the time. That is not to say the 6300's, 8350's etc are not good cpu's. Especially taking into account their price. You don't make any sense by the way. First you ask if the 8320 will bottleneck an R9 290 then you put down Intel? When you don't even know how the 8320 will perform?
 
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1. nope, it wont, it is easy to overclock if needed

2. Because we are disappointed (+intel fanboys are intel fanboys)
we were expecting something ground braking from AMD, something that puts the "affordable" back to "enthusiast PC"
And whereas the FX 83X0 series are looked at as good CPU-s, they are basically the end of the line... whereas in Intel is is where its really begins. And these differences are basically made the Intel fanboys an edge that they use all the time

Take a look at the Intel. New series of chips every year or two (with marginal differences but always better)
Whereas when was the last time we got a new AMD chip ? ( non APU)

I have the FX 8320, and love it. OC able, looks cool, there is nothing really that it cannot handle ( for example for the well threaded multitasking they are awesome), good at price plus the free game...

But hopefully it gives you an insight whats happening
 
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Ok thanks i'll take the Amd fx 8320 over the 8350. I hate Intel fanboys: i have seen AMD fanboys that atleast say Intel is Good. Never seen Intel fanboys say that AMD is almost good
 
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AMD has some sweet multi thread/price performance, but performance wise, intel simply wins over amd with no doubt. Compared to intels high-end stuff, not taking into account price, amd is not even "almost good".
 
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The fact is, most of the builds requested are gaming builds and IPC remains king. The FX CPUs are great productivity chips and decent gaming ones, but even as games utilize more cores, the workloads aren't highly parallelized to the extent that it makes up for Intel's stronger individual cores. And on the high-end, AMD's essentially ceded the market to Intel, so on high-end builds, so those builds will be dominated by Intel as well.

AMD's made a lot of great CPUs over the years. The Athlon 64s are no longer relevant, but they border in legendary. I still keep my rig with the Phenom IIx4 965 black simply because it was such a fun rig. But right now, the top of Intel's line is simply better than what AMD's bringing to the table -- by design, AMD's made a conscious decision to mostly withdraw from the enthusiast segment.
 
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But people think that the difference between intel (i5-4670/k) and amd fx (8320/50) is .. like 50 fps ?! In older games amd will be worst .. yes but it doesn't mean that will have 5 fps and intel 82! The fps difference in almost evry game isn't so many for me! Max 20 fps differencd... and dear intel fanboys, the bottlenecking exists for intel too!
 
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An I7 vs an 8350 is like comparing the Italian army with the German Wermacht in 1940.
 
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Yes yes our army isn't good . The i7 vs fx 8350 yes the i7 wins out... but how many ? In video editing they are pretty interesting both, in gaming ? I7 go almost the i5 ... and what the price ?? Almost $300 for a good i7 ...

If i'd do workstation... i'd take i7 extreme or xeon e5... not even amd :) .. but for gaming pc ... amd kicks in some way intel...
 
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I'm a fan of intel... but I don't put it in every build.If someone has the budget for it I give them an intel build. If they don't have the budget for it, I give them an AMD build, unless they specifically request for an intel build. AMD dominates the low end budget CPUs, while Intel dominates the higher end. Basically $800 up I give them intel, unless they want AMD for a better GPU. $800 below AMD, unless they want like a i3 4130 so that they can upgrade to a 4670/90k for the future. Same with nVidia. I love nVidia cards, but I can see the fact that AMD has better value. In fact I'm planning for an AMD build myself ( 8320 + 280 ). I'm jsut saying this because you make it sound like every fan of intel is a d!ck lol. Each side has their fair share of "fanboys", and it will always be like that.

Anyways BACK ON TOPIC. No you should not experience bottle neck with that CPU/GPU combo. You can OC the 8320 to 8350 speeds, probably even higher.
 
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Ok, first of all I am not a 'fanboy'. Yes I build with Intel, simply because AMD are not competing, and that irritates me.

look at it this way: Top o' the line intel vs AMD.

i7 4790k vs FX 9590

4 core (8 thread) vs 8 core (4 module)
Max clock: 4.4 GHz vs 4.7 GHz (both unlocked)
TDP: 88 W vs 220 W
Lithography: 22nm vs 32nm
Released: Q2 2014 vs Q3 2013

Check the tomshardware charts, they show an 8350 being beaten by an ivy bridge i3 in some.
 
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Well, if current situation stays, my next GPU will be AMD, while I'd never even consider an AMD CPU.
 
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I have a FX8320 at stock speeds on that same Asus M5A99FX Pro paired with 2 Gigabyte GTX770 4GB cards (SLI) and the CPU can handle them just fine. Your good with either the 8320 or 8350 CPU's.

Now, here comes the rant...

From my experience PC builds come in two catagories:
1. What works
2. What gives you a huge E-peen

1. what works
PC's that are built for a specific purpose with a balance between affordable prices and good performance. This means that you have decided what you expect out of your PC and what you want to spend then buy the parts accordingly. This is where AMD has the market. People who just want to play games, surf the web and blah blah blah. People who don't watch the FPS counter and spend or spend their weekends bench marking tend to buy AMD because they are affordable and get the job done. There is nothing wrong with them. I love them and use them in every build.

2. What gives you E-Peen
Intel makes some really powerful chips. Stronger than what most people will ever really use them for. There is a reason that they cost twice as much as AMD. You will see these chips in machines that are built for performance. People with intel chips generally have machines that they tweek constantly, monitor their temps, have multi GPU's or have just plain had Intel in every PC and love them. Some people with intel are not uber-geeks and just fans.

Anyway, moral of the story is What do you want out of your PC and how much money do you want to spend. You cant go wrong either AMD or Intel. They both are computer!
 
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Thats certainly not true. An i5 with motherboard is generally cheaper as an amd 8350fx, an am3+ mainboard and a cooler. The only reason why you should consider an amd chip now is when you already have an am3+ board.
Thinking about it, in germany an 8350fx + am3+ motherboard share the same price as a xeon 1231v3 and a h87 motherboard, which is a locked i7 without iGPU.
 
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I directly go with z97 Mobo+Intel!!
 
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Now im no way a big intel fanboy by any strech more of a AMD fanboy.

I have a fx 6100 and have spent the last two weeks debating a upgrade to the FX 8350. Ive spent so much time doing research and found that intel is the way to go. Ive just bit the bullet and ordered a i7 4790k with a Asus Maximus Ranger IIV MB after realising im going to get a 130% boost in everything ( Including rendering) where as a fx 8350 upgrade would have been around 50%.

Last thing to look at is also the Watt's the CPU uses. ON average for a year you are looking at around $78 for the i7 with the 88W, the FX with it's 125w standard was double the power usages as it uses more than the 125 it says. You will save enough money in electricity in the next year or two by going with the i7.

Im no way a fanboy and didn't want to admit it but honestly after spending ages looking intel all the way.

Even with rendering the new i7 is an absolute machine and multi tasking
 
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