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What do i need to improve FPS for 4K resolution. Upgraded graphics or processor?

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July 20, 2014 9:34:39 AM

Hey guy's

I recently built my gaming PC and purchased a 1440p monitor, how ever i have noticed on Games like Metro Last Light and Tomb raider, i'm getting 20-30 fps on the highest textures.

My problem is that i am purchasing this 4kTV

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd-blu-ray/televisions...

in a few weeks and obviously if my Computer is struggling to play 1440p on full texures, i will need to upgrade a component on my Computer.

These are my current specs:

Processor: Intel i5 4570K 3.20 ghz
Graphics card: GTX 770 2GB (Overclock edition)
Ram: Corsair Vengeance Blue 8GB
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming Motherboard

I was thinking of purchasing a Titan Graphics card, or GTX 780. Would either of them help?

Oh and btw i know 49inch tv is over kill, but it will be only used for gaming and watching movies, not just so i can sit in-front of it using Facebook lol.

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a b U Graphics card
July 20, 2014 9:43:39 AM

Nooo. First titan is not for gamers its for creators so waste of money 2 you will need 2-3 GPUs I'd say 3 780 ti's atleast to run 4k. If I were you I'd get another 770 and stay at 1440p gaming at 4k is for the ultra rich
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July 20, 2014 9:44:21 AM

Your GPU is not exactly ready for 4k at maximum settings. That said, even a GeForce Titan Black would struggle with the main line of 4k games, which will really start to become mainstream in a little over a year.

If you really must push for 4k at the moment, a GeForce 780 Ti would be a good option. If you can afford it, a Titan or Titan Black, but those are still prohibitively expensive.

Don't forget, the GeForce 8 series are just around the corner, and these cards will set a new standard for high-end Graphics components as far as gaming is concerned.

Keep in mind: 4k is a very new technology. Arguably, there aren't cards out currently that can reliably do it justice over the first cycle of 4k games that we'll be seeing in the next 1-3 years.
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July 20, 2014 9:44:54 AM

I would upgrade RAM to at least 12gb. Then you can try a GTX 780 or Titan and if it doesnt boost performance, you can return that card and upgrade your processor to an Intel Core i7
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July 20, 2014 10:31:23 AM

Hey guy's, thanks for the answers so far.

@firo40: I would stay at 1440p, but i feel i might as well just upgrade my graphics card to utilize The 4K TV's potentially. I am not super rich, but i have a good business so i have saved up a bit to upgrade my gaming system to the best i can get. How-ever i would prefer not to spend over the odds either.

@Thelps: Yes i like the your recommendation of a GTX 780 TI, It looks as though it would do for now. Would it be able to reach 30+ fps on 4k Max settings? or would i have to buy 2 of them? ( I would prefer to buy just 1 ). Also do i need to upgrade my processor? or will it be capable of running the 780 or possibly 2 780's?

@Ethan Carter: Yes i think i probably will upgrade my ram to 12 just to be on the safe side.
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July 20, 2014 10:37:52 AM

You definitely need to focus on the graphics card, rather than the CPU. Its the lower resolutions that shift the load onto the CPU. I would start with a single GTX 780 (Ti) and see how it works. If its not enough (and it likely won't be enough), then you add the second card for SLI.

Be aware that a 4K TV is only going to have a refresh rate of 30 Hz, so your maximum FPS is only going to be 30... not exactly smooth for high-end gaming. Don't blow a bunch of cash up front, just to realize that your system isn't capable of doing what you want it to do.
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July 20, 2014 10:45:20 AM

In all honesty you are best off enjoying gaming on your 1440p monitor for the time being. To play 4k at an acceptable frame rate you are going to spending at least £800-£1100 (2 top end cards in SLI or Crossfire). Enjoy your TV for viewing TV and Ultra HD movies etc. In about 6-7 months time the Graphics card companies should have a better solution at a much better cost. In the mean time consider selling your current card and buying something like a Sapphire R9 290 Tri-x (around £330) and enjoy great frame rates on the 1440p.
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July 20, 2014 10:53:03 AM

@Moderator

Thanks for the input. After reading reviews and other websites selling the TV, it seems the TV Fresh rate is 100Hz.
So if i buy 2x 780 ti Graphic cards, i should be able to play 4k on 30+ fps ?


@Jack

Yeah i'll have a look into that, I'm sure i could wait 6 months for new Graphics cards to come out
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July 20, 2014 11:02:09 AM

woobywooo said:
@Moderator

Thanks for the input. After reading reviews and other websites selling the TV, it seems the TV Fresh rate is 100Hz.
So if i buy 2x 780 ti Graphic cards, i should be able to play 4k on 30+ fps ?

Thanks

You REALLY need to get confirmation that refresh rate is while the TV is in 4K mode. It may run at that refresh rate when running in a lower resolution, but not in 4K.

A few items: 1) 100 Hz refresh rate is unheard of, those monitors don't exist, 2) The vast majority of 4K PC monitors run at 30 Hz when in 4K mode, but are able to bump up to 60 Hz on a lower resolution. There are a few PC monitors that can do 60 Hz at 4K. 3) To my knowledge, there do not exist any 4K TVs (as opposed to PC monitors) that run above 30 Hz in 4K mode.

I could be mistaken on any of those items, but the point is, again, check this stuff out thoroughly so that you don't dump a bunch of money only to find out that it doesn't work the way you were expecting.
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a b U Graphics card
July 20, 2014 12:14:47 PM

I will also add, that you don't wanna get that 4k tv for gaming. First of all, TV's have horrible response time are are not suited for gaming, especially when compared to monitors.

Second, 17seconds is right when he says the TV will only run at 30hz/30 frames per second when in 4k resolution. It doesn't have displayport connections, only HDMI. HDMI currently does not have the bandwidth to run 4k at 60hz over a single cable, and it wont until HDMI 2.0 releases(not out yet). The only 4k screens that can run at 60hz/60fps are the PC monitors out there with displayport connections.

Finally, if you wanted to game at good/high settings on 4k at 60fps, you would need 2 290's, 2 290x's, a 295x2, or 2 780ti's. Anything below that will struggle. As others have said, 4k is not mainstream yet, won't be for at least a year. If you are serious about 4k, wait until it becomes more popular and see what the Nvidia 800 series cards bring to the table when they release this fall. For now I'd stick with 1440p and your current setup. If you really do want to do 4k now though you will need to go with one of the gpu configurations that I listed AND look at getting a good 4k PC monitor, not a TV like you linked.
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a b U Graphics card
July 20, 2014 12:19:34 PM

17seconds said:
woobywooo said:
@Moderator

Thanks for the input. After reading reviews and other websites selling the TV, it seems the TV Fresh rate is 100Hz.
So if i buy 2x 780 ti Graphic cards, i should be able to play 4k on 30+ fps ?

Thanks

You REALLY need to get confirmation that refresh rate is while the TV is in 4K mode. It may run at that refresh rate when running in a lower resolution, but not in 4K.

A few items: 1) 100 Hz refresh rate is unheard of, those monitors don't exist, 2) The vast majority of 4K PC monitors run at 30 Hz when in 4K mode, but are able to bump up to 60 Hz on a lower resolution. There are a few PC monitors that can do 60 Hz at 4K. 3) To my knowledge, there do not exist any 4K TVs (as opposed to PC monitors) that run above 30 Hz in 4K mode.

I could be mistaken on any of those items, but the point is, again, check this stuff out thoroughly so that you don't dump a bunch of money only to find out that it doesn't work the way you were expecting.


Really good advice here, 4k is still in it's infancy. Remember how expensive 1080p TVs were when they 1st came out, then a year later you could get a much higher spec one at half the price. Early tech adopters always pay a premium for having the latest kit and unfortunately you are more often than not a guinea-pig. I remember paying £170 for the 1st ever MP3 player by Creative. It had 32Mb or memory and was utterly horrible. A year or 2 later you could pick them up with way higher capacities at half the price.
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