i7 4500u with AMD Radeon HD 8670M OR I3 4030u with geforce 820m ?

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Hi,
I am planning on buying a new laptop and I have the following choices:
i7 4500u with AMD Radeon HD 8670M
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I3 4030u with geforce 820m
I know these are not very good game configurations, but anyway, which one would be better at gaming ?

Thanks in advance!
 
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@Simon
Yes indeed, but I believe that supports Enduro technology. Coincidentally, that's the other tip I forgot to mention.
Gpus supporting AMD Enduro/Nvidia Optimus are prone to inefficient behaviour, due to not only having to process data about the game, but also having to keep the cpu's integrated card "out of their kingdom", so to speak, although it's not always like that. Pretty much like the Mantle API nowadays, they can work wonders for some, or be a pain in the "behind" for some others...

@Thomas
If it wasn't a Satellite I'd get that repaired, hands down (I'm just biased against them, period :D). That's a powerhouse for light/mid gaming, and is also VERY...
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Thanks for the fast reply! And yes i'm on a tight budget, and after a little bit of research i've come to these two configurations which are prise/quality the best i think.
Here are the links.
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/acer-aspire-e1-572g-74504g50dnkk-laptop/9200000022702626/ i74500u hd 8670m
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/acer-aspire-e5-571g-32w2-laptop/9200000028163244/ i3 4030u nvidia 820m
I think personally that the nvidia 820m is 'better' for games but i'm not sure, that's why I'm asking..
 
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I've been looking for one too, but can't seem to find anything fitting my needs...

From all I've researched, here are some tips, if they can help:
- For discrete gpu notebooks, at least IMO, HD 85xx/86xx/75xx/76xx or GT x20/x30 aren't worth the price gap.
If you want a minimum level of graphic detail at decent framerates for your games, you're going to want at least a 7750m/8750m/R7 265m or a GT 740m/840m.
Go one step lower and you'll have to sacrifice some details, go two and an integrated will be on par.
- Stay away from ULV chips if you can (some AMD APUs and any Intel chip ending with a "u" letter). ULV stands for Ultra Low Voltage, and that means usually a cooler but underpowered operation from what I've understood.
If you're going to do very light gaming or retrogaming on them, they're ok, but otherwise they can become a pain...
- If you're going for an integrated card and can't find anything except ULV chips, try getting at least an i5/i7 with Intel HD 4000/4400.

There was something else, but I can't seem to recall it. As a personal opinion, stay away from Toshiba Satellites, as their heat dissipation system is really bad IMO, and might get you a broken notebook fast...
 
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Thank you all for the reply and especially thanks to Vynavill because of your good explanation.
The real reason why i'm buying a new laptop is because my previous laptop is broken, it fell out of my hands (yes, very clumsy but it happened unfortunately...) and the cost to repair is is 550€ (new motherboard and screen.
It was a toshiba satellite with an i7 4700MQ and geforce 740m, which is not very good but good enough for me for the games I play.
So maybe it would be better to just repair it so I have a decent laptop again, since I can't find a good alternative for 550€?
 
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I hate answering on mobile, no easy way to quote...
Well, anyways...

@Simon
Yes indeed, but I believe that supports Enduro technology. Coincidentally, that's the other tip I forgot to mention.
Gpus supporting AMD Enduro/Nvidia Optimus are prone to inefficient behaviour, due to not only having to process data about the game, but also having to keep the cpu's integrated card "out of their kingdom", so to speak, although it's not always like that. Pretty much like the Mantle API nowadays, they can work wonders for some, or be a pain in the "behind" for some others...

@Thomas
If it wasn't a Satellite I'd get that repaired, hands down (I'm just biased against them, period :D). That's a powerhouse for light/mid gaming, and is also VERY close to what I was looking forward to buy.
If you want more.performance than that from a laptop, you're going to step into professional notebookso or ultrabooks territory.
 
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Sorry for the late reply, but I have exams richt now and I forgot about it.
Thanks for the advise again, but I brought my satellite back to the store so they can fix it... This is the 'cheapest' solution..
But I must say, this was the first AND the last time I bought / will buy a toshiba satellite ;)
 
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You're welcome. Unfortunately for your laptop's brand, their price point for what they offer with their models is usually awesome, but the constructive quality of the product itself tends to suffer a lot, as I've stated already. It's like a lottery, really; you might get one and, with equal probability, have to send it back for repairs after a couple days or never have to do so...

In the end I managed to get myself what I was looking for as well. Found an HP Envy 15-j108el on sale at 600€ (Amazon averagely reports prices of 100€ higher), so it would've probably been slightly more expensive than the repair costs of your current Toshiba.
Would've been a nice replacement for it anyway ;)
You would've lost something in terms of CPU power (yours has a non-ULV quad core with HT, mine has a non-ULV dual core with HT), but the rest of the specs would've been similar or slightly better.
 
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