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Processor or graphics? What should I be upgrading next for the best fps and performance in games.

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July 22, 2014 7:00:14 AM

Here are my dxdiag specs:
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/14/12 12:26:23 Ver: 04.06.05
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 12288MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 12184MB RAM
Page File: 2449MB used, 21914MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x683F)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_683F&SUBSYS_23181787&REV_00
Display Memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1002 MB
Shared Memory: 3093 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: S23B350
Monitor Id: SAM08D6
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1230 (English)
Driver Version: 13.152.1.8000
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/8/2013 07:01:02, 1237200 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2B7F-11CF-F970-1203BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x683F
SubSys ID: 0x23181787
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem21.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_R575A:13.152.1.8000:p ci\ven_1002&dev_683f
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

I also have a 700w power supply. I noticed it doesn't say that there.

My birthday is coming up and I was thinking about treating myself to an upgrade so I was wondering what I could get.

I was hoping to be able to run dayz with at least medium graphics, in 1900x1080, with around 60+ frames. Right now I'm at the lowest with 20 frames.

I wouldn't mind switching to Nividia either. Infact I'd probably prefer it.

As well, if anyone knows why when I activate crossfire and I get -less- fps than when I run one of my cards could you share your wisdom?

EDIT: Budget of about $500 give or take a bit

EDIT 2: Yes, no, maybe so?:
http://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-GeForce-Clocked-Graphics-02G-...

More about : processor graphics upgrading fps performance games

July 22, 2014 7:05:16 AM

i5-3570k
HD7700 series

New graphics card is all you need, what's your budget?

Some games just hate crossfire
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July 22, 2014 7:09:04 AM

matthewwalk said:

Here are my dxdiag specs:
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7601) Service Pack 1 (7601.win7sp1_gdr.140303-2144)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/14/12 12:26:23 Ver: 04.06.05
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.4GHz
Memory: 12288MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 12184MB RAM
Page File: 2449MB used, 21914MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7601.17514 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Chip type: AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x683F)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_683F&SUBSYS_23181787&REV_00
Display Memory: 4095 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1002 MB
Shared Memory: 3093 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: S23B350
Monitor Id: SAM08D6
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI
Driver Name: aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.17.0010.1230 (English)
Driver Version: 13.152.1.8000
DDI Version: 11
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/8/2013 07:01:02, 1237200 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-2B7F-11CF-F970-1203BEC2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x683F
SubSys ID: 0x23181787
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem21.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_R575A:13.152.1.8000:p ci\ven_1002&dev_683f
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
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D3D9 Overlay: Not Supported
DXVA-HD: Not Supported
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled

I also have a 700w power supply. I noticed it doesn't say that there.

My birthday is coming up and I was thinking about treating myself to an upgrade so I was wondering what I could get.

I was hoping to be able to run dayz with at least medium graphics, in 1900x1080, with around 60+ frames. Right now I'm at the lowest with 20 frames.

I wouldn't mind switching to Nividia either. Infact I'd probably prefer it.

As well, if anyone knows why when I activate crossfire and I get -less- fps than when I run one of my cards could you share your wisdom?


Upgrade your GPU first then the CPU :) 
What is your budget so that we can recommend a GPU for you ?
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July 22, 2014 7:10:13 AM

DEFINITELY upgrade the graphics card if you were going to decide between cpu and gpu. your cpu is decent already bruh, i have an i3-2120 paired with a gtx 760(O.C) and i can run bf4 max 70fps average. that just proves how vital a gpu is in pc gaming.
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July 22, 2014 7:24:25 AM

Graphics, my good sir... graphics. Video cards will always be the go-to for increasing game performance, unless your CPU would bottleneck it. You have a very good processor that should not have that problem for many years.

I'm using an i5 2500k paired with R9 290 btw.
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July 22, 2014 7:27:03 AM

Your CPU is great, just get a better GPU. How much $$ are you planning to invest into it?
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July 22, 2014 7:27:41 AM

LucoTF said:
i5-3570k
HD7700 series

New graphics card is all you need, what's your budget?

Some games just hate crossfire


About $500ish
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July 22, 2014 7:29:43 AM

Yep, $500ish
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July 22, 2014 7:32:40 AM

Then custom cooled Radeon R9 290 (non-X) would be a best bet for you.

Asus and Sapphire got some good ones. MSI too.
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July 22, 2014 7:32:43 AM

780 or 290 and you will max any game
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July 22, 2014 7:34:36 AM

Yeah, 780 is good too. Just aim for custom cooled models, the usually come already overclocked (and covered by warranty) and are simply better than stock.
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