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Hey there :)
I can neither find a way to fix my problem, nor really find it....
I am experiencing low fps in many games like Borderlands2, Skyrim, Assassin's Creed 4, sometimes Warframe and TheWitcher2.
GeforceExperience, as well as the games themselves, tell me to crank up like every setting.
Now - my problem is, that, in e.g. Bordelands 2, my fps are unreasonably low...
I have Vsync turned on, so my fps usually stay at 60. BUT, if there is even just a small fight going on, the fps drop to ~30...
what i noticed is that in the BL2 main menu (where my fps without Vsync are about 220-240), and ingame (with and without Vsync), the game stutters when i start to move the camera...
while everything seems to be fine, while i turn around REALLY slowly, the framerate crashes to 30 until i stop looking around.

My setup is:
GPU: 780gtx glh (gainward oc)
CPU: fx 8350 AMD
RAM: 16gb @ 1600mhz
MoBo: Asrock 970 extreme4
PSU: 850w XFX gold-classified
Since I am using windows7, I already installed the hotfixes and unparked my cores, what, as far as i noticed, didn't make any difference.

According to msi afterburner's rivatuner OSD, my GPU usage (in BL2) stays around 50% to 60%, while the CPU usage, on a few cores, hits like 80%.
People in other forums told me that indicates a CPU bottleneck "since the CPU isn't at the level of the gtx 780" - is this true?
But, even if that's true, my system seems to be extremely underperforming...are any parts broken?
is there a software issue? how could I that out?

Thanks in advance :)

EDIT:
I just noticed that the fps-crashes while turning around occur in Kingdoms of Amalur, too.
It isn't demanding at all, so what causes this? :(
 
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Thanks for the reply :)
I did a little bit of reasearch and did also find this thread.
According to CPU-Z my RAM is running correctly:
4x 4gb @ 1600mhz (800mhz in CPU-z, but this is normal, right?)
And, the guy who posted the solution had 1600mhz himself.
I don't think that my RAM frequenzy is the problem... :/
 
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Indeed it is normal for CPU-z to report 800Mhz. What I would suggest that you do, is run only 2 of the 4 sticks, and try to see how it performs. You should try different combinations of the 4 sticks, while putting them in dual channel.
 
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Thanks for your reply :)
Kind of, yes.
My old MoBo broke a while ago; after that I bought a new one and re-installed Win7 (beginning of this month).
 
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Well, before getting into any crazy solutions, I would suggest removing your video drivers completely with Display Driver Uninstaller (http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/) and installing the latest stable build.

Were your frame rates fine on the old motherboard?

Is anything currently OC'ed?
 
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I am currently testing the "ram-reseating-solution".
I'll test your suggestion afterwards :)

I don't remember exactly...
All I know, is that my fps in e.g. Warframe went from 120-220 to 40-45 in some situations...BL2 and AC4 e.g. didn't work that well either, as far as I know.

EDIT:
Thanks so far guys :)
The problem still exists - neither reseating/removing the ram, nor clean re-installing the gpu's drivers helped :/

Any other thoughts? ^^
 
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I didn't OC anything....

The problem seems to occur in every game (I tested about 4).
Everytime I turn around, or spin the camera, the framerate crashes.
It looks like it would skip a few frames, or something.

After re-thinking my situation, i have to make an addition:
the problem exists since maybe the mid of last week.
the only thing I did, was changing the CPU-cooler because my last old"new" one was too loud and I had to send it back.
I can't remember that I touched, broke or scratched anything - and the temps don't go above 57°C...therefore I don't seem to run into heat-limitations....

EDIT:
Sooo...I kept testing:
Warframe seems to run perfectly (stock 60 fps) and without the fps-crashing while looking around.
 
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Which seetings do you mean in particular? :)
I didn't change anything myself in the BIOS, apart from disabling said power-saving features, as well as choosing a ram profile (described in the MoBo's manual).
That all was before the problem occured.
-> I also set everything to default, apart from the things mentioned above
 
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A buddy of mine had a weird boost setting for his graphics that was giving him problems and years ago I had to manually set my cards memory size. Now that I think of it, I have a different version of your mobo and i don't think there is much in the way of those kind of tweaks for the gpu anyway. Well next in my thought process are your games. Are those games all launched through steam?
 
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I'll look, if I find any "weird" options :)
And your other question:
Mostly, yes.
BL2 and Kingdoms of Amalur are launched via steam.
I also tested Far Cry 3 BloodDragon, which I launch through steam, but run via uplay (I hate this btw ^^)
Batman Arkham Origins, Warframe and TheDarkness2 are launched through steam - I can't find any problems there...apart from some fps drops in Batman AO when there is much of PhysX going on (shock-gloves e.g.).

EDIT:
Okay, now it's getting even more weird...:
in the BL2 main menu, even without moving the camera, the framerate drop extremely while just moving the mouse... oO
 
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Well...no - just found this out a few minutes ago.
But, on the other hand, this problem doesn't occur (as mentioned) in other games... I don't think it is the mouse.
In other forums people talk about a virus, which causes this. the virus should be shut down via task managar...but it seems that I don't have this virus (taskmanager doesn't show it - or something similar)
 
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Well if you truly did a fresh install of windows(format hard drive and install OEM), there should be no virus. I just find it weird that in both menu and game, movement of the mouse is causing problems in FPS. Have you tried turning down your settings/resolution in game and seeing if the FPS crash still occurs?
 
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Mh..okay:
I just read that reducing the polling rate could help,,,and yes - it helped.. A LOT ^^
The fps crashing while moving my mouse disappeared (still weird because I never did anything with it before).

But my general fps are still unreasonably low.
I don't think that, with my setup, fps down to 40-30 in BL2 are righteous :/

 
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I tried everything..turning settings down, limit/unlimit frames turno vsync on/off.
FPS still drop in (small) fights etc.. :/
 
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If you have another video card, you could throw that in there and see if you get those massive DROPS that you are talking about to isolate the problem to that card.

Edit: I'm going for a run, I'll ponder some other problems as I'm out. Good luck.
 
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I don't have another card...or rather no other card which is comparable to my 780 gtx.
All I have is an old GTS 450, which wouldn't give me good results anyway ^^
 
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