9590 16gb ram setup

thenightrunner

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Good day dear fellow members..

I just built a new system and i need a few tips please ...

Board : asrock 990fx killer fatality .
Fx9590 .
850 psu
7950 crossfire .
16gb kingston hyper x ram ..

My concern her is about the frequencies of the processor and the ram ..
At core temp the processor freq is fluctuating from 1313 to 4989 never less never more .. is that normal ?? Is it made to not hot the 5000 limit ?

My other concern is about the ram ..
I have no idea what frequency should i chooose in bios i know its 2400 but when i tries this choice it showed bsod .. now its on auto .. shall i leave it like this ? am i taking advantage like this from the full ram speed ? On cpuid its showing dramfrequency : 665.2
NBfrequency : 2195.3 ..

Am i good to go like this ???

My last issue is about the gpu's
Ive got those 2 cards from a relative who owned me money
And im thinking of going last gen hence i just bought a new rig ..
Im having 2 offers ..
1 - to trade those 2 into 2 r9280x ..
What do you think my friends ?
If yes will the power supply withstand ? Its m2 seasonic 850.

2- trading both towards an r9290x tri x sapphire ..

Im leaning towards this choice coz of the new chip and the probably better future support and drivers ...

Be advised that i do have only 1 2560x1440 monitor and i dont have and future plans to expand ..

So which choice would be wiser ?

Sticking with the 2 7950
Trading them by 2 r9280x
Trading them by 1 r9290x .


Kindly pleaese guide me towards what you see as the best choice for now ... On my own ive read a lot of reviews and benchmarks and all are focused on how 2 r9280x will more powerful but 1 single r9 is more future proof ..
I couldnt even find a neck to neck comparison on 2560 res .. so if you can help me i would be excessively grateful

All the best ..
 
Solution
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/?compatible_with=amd-cpu-fd9590fhhkwof unfortunately yours isnt listed. it is a good mobo, apparently not appropriate for FX 9590 though! and that crazy TDP of 220w also the cpu isnt in the CPU compatability list http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20990FX%20Killer/index.asp?cat=CPU additionally you will need a water cooling solution to sustain acceptable temps!

AMD doesnt have that capable IMC(intergrated memory controller) and since you have trouble feeding the cpu with power keeping a steady clock you wont be able to do so! your ram drops to 665.2*2 ~ 1333mhz . you could run 1866mhz, or even 2133mhz but as said flactuating cpu speed wont get you there!

Your 850w...
https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/?compatible_with=amd-cpu-fd9590fhhkwof unfortunately yours isnt listed. it is a good mobo, apparently not appropriate for FX 9590 though! and that crazy TDP of 220w also the cpu isnt in the CPU compatability list http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/Fatal1ty%20990FX%20Killer/index.asp?cat=CPU additionally you will need a water cooling solution to sustain acceptable temps!

AMD doesnt have that capable IMC(intergrated memory controller) and since you have trouble feeding the cpu with power keeping a steady clock you wont be able to do so! your ram drops to 665.2*2 ~ 1333mhz . you could run 1866mhz, or even 2133mhz but as said flactuating cpu speed wont get you there!

Your 850w psu should suffice if it is from a reputable manufacturer! remember AMD recommends 1KW for that monster:ouch:

i dont recommend crossfiring due to various reasons(not that efficient, stattering - compatability issues). stay as you are or try trading with a single R9 290x . it will be a good pair for your 1440p monitor!

Finally you must deal with the CPU throttling issues in order to be able to run your pc seamlessly!
 
Solution
The advice the previous poster had about your CPU and RAM is not correct.

The FX-9590's stock clock speeds are 1.4 GHz for idle, 4.7 GHz for multiple-core loads, and 5.0 GHz for single or dual-core loads. You are seeing the CPU function normally as it goes between idle and full speed. Your actual clock speeds aren't going to be exactly 1400 MHz or 5000 MHz since clock generators are usually a few fractions of a MHz off. It sounds like yours is 199.8 MHz or so rather than exactly 200.0 MHz. Bump up the HT reference clock to 1 MHz to 201 in your BIOS if you want to see a top speed that is just a touch over rather than a touch under 5000 MHz.

Maximum attainable memory frequency is HEAVILY dependent on exactly what type of RAM you have. This is true for both Intel and AMD CPUs and has gotten worse over time as supporting ever-higher clock speeds becomes progressively more difficult from a physics perspective. AMD only officially supports up to DDR3-1866 operation with AM3+ CPUs and that's only with a motherboard with two DIMM slots. If your board has four slots, you can only officially run up to DDR3-1600 even if two of the slots are empty due to the extra wiring for the two additional slots adding a load to the memory controller. Having four memory modules puts a much bigger load on the memory controller than having two modules, and having memory modules with 16 chips (dual-ranked modules) puts a bigger load than having a module with eight chips (single-ranked modules.)

Here's the table for official speeds supported by AMD AM3+ processors:
1. Board with two DIMM slots, both filled: DDR3-1866 regardless if the module has one or two ranks
2. Board with four DIMM slots, two filled: DDR3-1600 regardless if the module has one or two ranks
3. Board with four DIMM slots, four filled: DDR3-1600 if all four are single-ranked modules, otherwise DDR3-1333

Also remember that nearly all overclocker memory like your DDR3-2400 defaults to running at DDR3-1333 when you first plug it in. Most boards give the actual clock speed, which for DDR is half of the "rated" speed- your about 666 MHz means DDR3-1333. So you would need to cut the number "in half" to get the proper speed setting. Setting the figure at 2400 MHz would be DDR3-4800 which is absolutely goofy and should definitely cause a BSOD. You will need to go and set the memory to the "proper" higher speed manually. I would set your RAM at the official settings I posted above at first and then go from there. I'd guess based on the size and speed of memory you have that you're probably running four 4 GB single-ranked modules or two 8 GB dual-ranked ones so I'd set the speed at 800 MHz (DDR3-1600) and go from there. You may get away with running at DDR3-1866 but I wouldn't push it as there's little benefit in pushing RAM speeds above about DDR3-1600 on AM3+ CPUs. I'd tighten up the latencies at DDR3-1600 before I'd go for raw clock speed. Leave everything else alone such as the northbridge.

I'd also keep the GPUs as the 7950s are still pretty new and should be more than powerful enough for driving your single 2560x1440 monitor. Your PSU will be just fine.
 
well at idle and at ballanced windows power option there will be flactuation i agree. but is it? i assumed he refers to high loads and not idle. also temps should be stated at idle and under load. insufficient cooling can easily result on throttling with such cpu.
 

Dark Lord of Tech

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Your choices for the 9590:

ASRock 990FX Extreme9
Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0
Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5
Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7
MSI 990FXA-GD80V2

AMD.COM

Warning: This power draw of this CPU is almost twice that of the average CPU. Due to this, AMD recommends using at minimum a 1000W power supply. For cooling, AMD recommends using either either closed loop liquid cooling or full system liquid cooling.
 

thenightrunner

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Thank you all for trying to help ..
Muengineering is correct the processor speed fluctuates based on load it hits 4,989 when on full load ...
Before i get this board i was aware its not mentioned that it supports 9590 but read all its reviews on amazon and new egg most of tge customers is recommending it heavily for 9590 as it is a very high quality amd board .. fluctuation of the clock wasnt my concern im aware of tgis feature since i had x4 940 my concern was that i dont hit 5000 ..
About cooling i do have thermal take extreme water cooling + 4 200 fans and 1 140 + 2 120 and a full tower case ... So i dont believe i have any heat problems ..
I just wanted to know how to get the full potential out of my pc ..
About the ram freq im setting it on auto at bios and as per advice ill try setting it to 800 .
I do have 4 slots filled with 2 x 8..
My psu is m12 seasonic 850 ..
So any other advices ???
Am i doing any thing wrong ?
Am i benefiting from the full potential of my
setup?

Best regards .
 

Dark Lord of Tech

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Asrock site: I think they would have it listed.

AM3+ FX FD8350FRW8KHK 125W Piledriver 4000MHz 2200MHz 2MBx4 8MB C0 All
AM3+ FX FD8320FRW8KHK 125W Piledriver 3500MHz 2200MHz 2MBx4 8MB C0 All
AM3+ FX FD8300WMW8KHK 95W Piledriver 3300MHz 2200MHz 2MBx4 8MB C0 All
AM3+ FX FD8150FRW8KGU(BE) 125W Bulldozer 3600MHz 2200MHz 2MBx4 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD8140WMW8KGU 95W Bulldozer 3200MHz 2200MHz 2MBx4 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD8120FRW8KGU(BE) 125W Bulldozer 3100MHz 2200MHz 2MBx4 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD8120WMW8KGU(BE) 95W Bulldozer 3100MHz 2200MHz 2MBx4 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD8100WMW8KGU(BE) 95W Bulldozer 2800MHz 2000MHz 2MBx4 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD6350FRW6KHK 125W Piledriver 3900MHz 2200MHz 2MBx3 8MB C0 All
AM3+ FX FD6300WMW6KHK 95W Piledriver 3500MHz 2000MHz 2MBx3 8MB C0 All
AM3+ FX FD6200FRW6KGU 125W Bulldozer 3800MHz 2200MHz 2MBx3 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD6130FRW6KGU 125W Bulldozer 3600MHz 2200MHz 2MBx3 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD6120WMW6KGU 95W Bulldozer 3500MHz 2000MHz 2MBx3 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD6100WMW6KGU(BE) 95W Bulldozer 3300MHz 2000MHz 2MBx3 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD4350FRW4KHK 125W Piledriver 4200MHz 2200MHz 2MBx2 8MB C0 All
AM3+ FX FD4320WMW4MHK 95W Piledriver 4000MHz 2000MHz 2MBx2 4MB C0 All
AM3+ FX FD4300WMW4MHK 95W Piledriver 3800MHz 2000MHz 2MBx2 4MB C0 All
AM3+ FX FD4200FRW4KGU 125W Bulldozer 3300MHz 2200MHz 2MBx2 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD4170FRW4KGU(BE) 125W Bulldozer 4200MHz 2200MHz 2MBx2 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD4150WMW4KGU 95W Bulldozer 3900MHz 2000MHz 2MBx2 8MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD4130FRW4MGU 125W Bulldozer 3800MHz 2000MHz 2MBx2 4MB B2 All
AM3+ FX FD4100WMW4KGU(BE) 95W Bulldozer 3600MHz 2000MHz 2MBx2 8MB B2 All
 

thenightrunner

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For some reason this piece of information is not clear but it seems that asrock missed updating the supported processors after the 9590 launch since most of the reviews i read about the 9590 was with this board ...
 

logainofhades

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I suggest get rid of that space heater of a cpu and that motherboard and get a better system for your money. For the money wasted on inferior components, you could have purchased a far better setup, that used less power.

This would have been about the same cost and far superior, even if you were to never overclock it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $459.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-23 16:09 EDT-0400
 

thenightrunner

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I have no preference to switch to intel in heavy video rendering 9590 is stronger than the 3960 x ..ive seen it with my eyes ..
My concern is about the board shall i switch it to another one or as long as it worked its ok ?

Thanks .
 

thenightrunner

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The way i see it amd and intel are like mercedes and bmw the point is not in which better tge point is which do u prefer ..
Yet the issue for me now is not in deciding intel or amd its about the board and whether i switch it or not ?
 

logainofhades

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I made my suggestion, enjoy your overpriced space heater. It should keep you warm in the winter. Not even AMD fans recommend that cpu. Most say pick up an FX 8350 and clock it yourself. An FX 9590 just barely beats a 4770k in certain multithreaded benchmarks. It won't beat a 4970k, that is another 500mhz faster.
 

thenightrunner

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I dont know why its dissapointing that i chose amd over intel ... 9590 is not pver priced i had ot cor 350 including a high end board .. and as mentioned i do need the 8 cores ... To purchase a 6 core from intel we are talking 700-1000$ .. im an amd customer since more than 10 yeats and they never let me down .. i remember back in my college days when i had no money and intel were like a dream Amd were their for me... I do respect intel and leaning towards amd does not down size from intel at all ... Thank you all for helping me ..

All the best .