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July 23, 2014 1:30:00 AM

when im gaming my graphics card (quadro 570,i know its a work station card im getting an upgrade)it bottle necks with my cpu (e8400 3 ghz).
while my gpu is working 100% my cpu is working at like 50-60 % please help

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July 23, 2014 1:31:23 AM

well, it means that you need a stronger gpu, because your current one is bottlenecking your cpu.
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July 23, 2014 1:39:51 AM

Danbuscus25 said:
well, it means that you need a stronger gpu, because your current one is bottlenecking your cpu.


cheers thanks i am upgrading to a 4850
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July 23, 2014 1:40:48 AM

why dont you get a newer graphics card? that one is 4 generations old. what is your budget for a new graphics card, and what psu do you have?
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July 23, 2014 1:44:35 AM

avatar195 said:
Danbuscus25 said:
well, it means that you need a stronger gpu, because your current one is bottlenecking your cpu.


cheers thanks i am upgrading to a 4850


Get a r7 250x / HD7770
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July 23, 2014 1:46:11 AM

Danbuscus25 said:
why dont you get a newer graphics card? that one is 4 generations old. what is your budget for a new graphics card, and what psu do you have?


i only have pcie rev 2 so im limited to what i can buy and i am upgrading my current psu to a seasonic g series 550w
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July 23, 2014 1:48:54 AM

you can put any gen pcie card in any gen pcie slot.
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July 23, 2014 1:50:53 AM

Danbuscus25 said:
you can put any gen pcie card in any gen pcie slot.


Very nearly this. A very small number of pcie 2.1 cards have problems with pcie 1.0 but otherwise yes, any card for any slot :) 

Pcie 2 will take anything no problems
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July 23, 2014 1:51:03 AM

Danbuscus25 said:
you can put any gen pcie card in any gen pcie slot.


really ? will it only run at the speed that the pcie lane runs at ?
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July 23, 2014 1:53:07 AM

i am as well upgrading my ram from 4 to 8 gb
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July 23, 2014 1:53:13 AM

avatar195 said:
Danbuscus25 said:
you can put any gen pcie card in any gen pcie slot.


really ? will it only run at the speed that the pcie lane runs at ?


Why, do you have an x4 lane or something?
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July 23, 2014 1:54:11 AM

LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
Danbuscus25 said:
you can put any gen pcie card in any gen pcie slot.


really ? will it only run at the speed that the pcie lane runs at ?


Why, do you have an x4 lane or something?


no i have a 16 x
elecrical that is
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July 23, 2014 1:54:50 AM

for a low end card, the bandwidth limitation of a gen 2 pcie lane will have no affect on the performance of the card.
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July 23, 2014 1:55:54 AM

avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
Danbuscus25 said:
you can put any gen pcie card in any gen pcie slot.


really ? will it only run at the speed that the pcie lane runs at ?


Why, do you have an x4 lane or something?


no i have a 16 x
elecrical that is


The you have no worries, pcie 2.0 at x16 speeds is more than enough bandwidth for any card.

Hell, even if it was x4 a card would still run at 90-95% speed of the same card in a bigger lane.
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July 23, 2014 1:57:38 AM

LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
Danbuscus25 said:
you can put any gen pcie card in any gen pcie slot.


really ? will it only run at the speed that the pcie lane runs at ?


Why, do you have an x4 lane or something?


no i have a 16 x
elecrical that is


The you have no worries, pcie 2.0 at x16 speeds is more than enough bandwidth for any card.

Hell, even if it was x4 a card would still run at 90-95% speed of the same card in a bigger lane.


cheers thanka that answered alot of my questions
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July 23, 2014 2:03:39 AM

no problem, and dont forget to pick the best solution to mark this thread as solved :) 
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July 23, 2014 2:04:31 AM

avatar195 said:
Danbuscus25 said:
why dont you get a newer graphics card? that one is 4 generations old. what is your budget for a new graphics card, and what psu do you have?


i only have pcie rev 2 so im limited to what i can buy and i am upgrading my current psu to a seasonic g series 550w


Unless your current PSU is total garbage you could save some money here.

Just buy a GTX 750 - your CPU will bottleneck it a little but you will be able to turn the graphics up quite nicely on a lot of games and it's very low power so you probably won't need to upgrade your PSU.
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July 23, 2014 9:10:52 PM

LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
Danbuscus25 said:
why dont you get a newer graphics card? that one is 4 generations old. what is your budget for a new graphics card, and what psu do you have?


i only have pcie rev 2 so im limited to what i can buy and i am upgrading my current psu to a seasonic g series 550w


Unless your current PSU is total garbage you could save some money here.

Just buy a GTX 750 - your CPU will bottleneck it a little but you will be able to turn the graphics up quite nicely on a lot of games and it's very low power so you probably won't need to upgrade your PSU.


my psu is 375w its dell stock one
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July 23, 2014 11:59:47 PM

That is a good PSU, more than enough for a GTX 750
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July 25, 2014 3:09:14 AM

LucoTF said:
That is a good PSU, more than enough for a GTX 750


really ? : /
what about a 6850 i recently purchased thats card will it work?
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July 25, 2014 3:16:18 AM

avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
That is a good PSU, more than enough for a GTX 750


really ? : /
what about a 6850 i recently purchased thats card will it work?


The gtx 750 has a tdp of 55 watts

The HD6850 has a tdp of 127 watts

That's pushing it but it could still be enough, depending on what amperage the dell PSU has on the +12v rail (it would be on the sticker on the side of the PSU, my guess is it's around 19a).

Also, I believe the 375w dell doesn't have a 6 pin connector for the graphics card? If it doesn't then I would buy a new PSU before installing a 6850
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July 25, 2014 3:21:17 AM

LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
That is a good PSU, more than enough for a GTX 750


really ? : /
what about a 6850 i recently purchased thats card will it work?


The gtx 750 has a tdp of 55 watts

The HD6850 has a tdp of 127 watts

That's pushing it but it could still be enough, depending on what amperage the dell PSU has on the +12v rail (it would be on the sticker on the side of the PSU, my guess is it's around 19a).

Also, I believe the 375w dell doesn't have a 6 pin connector for the graphics card? If it doesn't then I would buy a new PSU before installing a 6850


no i does have a 6 pin
and it does have a 12v rail
if i was to buy a new power supply it would have to be 13cm long
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July 25, 2014 3:23:41 AM

What is the rating on the sticker for the +12v?
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July 25, 2014 3:25:24 AM

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What is the rating on the sticker for the +12v?


you mean in a
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July 25, 2014 3:34:00 AM

LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
What is the rating on the sticker for the +12v?


you mean in a


Correct:

http://www.shuttle.eu/_archive/older/en/prod/xpc/600/sn...

What does it say under +12v on your sticker


18 a but which one there are like 5 of them
on my power supply it has one 12va and 12vb so which one
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July 25, 2014 3:37:58 AM

avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
What is the rating on the sticker for the +12v?


you mean in a


Correct:

http://www.shuttle.eu/_archive/older/en/prod/xpc/600/sn...

What does it say under +12v on your sticker


18 a but which one there are like 5 of them
on my power supply it has one 12va and 12vb so which one


Both! you add them together lol :) 
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July 25, 2014 3:45:03 AM

LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
What is the rating on the sticker for the +12v?


you mean in a


Correct:

http://www.shuttle.eu/_archive/older/en/prod/xpc/600/sn...

What does it say under +12v on your sticker


18 a but which one there are like 5 of them
on my power supply it has one 12va and 12vb so which one


Both! you add them together lol :) 


and then what
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July 25, 2014 3:47:17 AM

It sounds like you have 18a on two rails which is 36a - PLENTY for a hd 6850 :D 

Even if you're limited to 30a (your sticker will say something about 'the combined output of the 12v rails is limited to 360w') it's still more than enough, dell PSUs are very reliable.
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July 25, 2014 3:51:22 AM

LucoTF said:
It sounds like you have 18a on two rails which is 36a - PLENTY for a hd 6850 :D 

Even if you're limited to 30a (your sticker will say something about 'the combined output of the 12v rails is limited to 360w') it's still more than enough, dell PSUs are very reliable.


thats exactly whjat it say thanks :) 
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July 25, 2014 3:58:45 AM

Excellent, the 6850 is a good match for your E8400 too. Enjoy :) 
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July 25, 2014 8:23:26 PM

LucoTF said:
Excellent, the 6850 is a good match for your E8400 too. Enjoy :) 


how do you know that ?
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July 26, 2014 1:27:28 AM

avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
Excellent, the 6850 is a good match for your E8400 too. Enjoy :) 


how do you know that ?


I used to own a e8400 + HD7770 and they worked well together. Your 6850 is pretty similar to the 7770 :) 
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July 26, 2014 1:58:55 AM

LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
Excellent, the 6850 is a good match for your E8400 too. Enjoy :) 


how do you know that ?


I used to own a e8400 + HD7770 and they worked well together. Your 6850 is pretty similar to the 7770 :) 


o ok cool thanks :) 
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July 28, 2014 9:40:49 PM

LucoTF said:
avatar195 said:
LucoTF said:
Excellent, the 6850 is a good match for your E8400 too. Enjoy :) 


how do you know that ?


I used to own a e8400 + HD7770 and they worked well together. Your 6850 is pretty similar to the 7770 :) 


i tyred the the card and its working fine but i get this message that says diplay driver has stopped working and has successfully recovered. i read online that i need a 500w minimum power supply to power it what are your thoughts
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July 29, 2014 12:10:40 AM

I don't think it's the PSU. I mean it's not impossible that it's the PSU, but I think it's far more likely to be a software issue.

You have 360w on the 12v rail
6850 = 127w max
E8400 = 65w max
Fans, HDDs etc = 50w max and probably less

That's 242 watts max or 67% load, which is well within the limits of your PSU. Don't worry about the 500w thing :) 

When and where do you get this error? Is it during games, on the desktop, watching movies or youtube?
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July 29, 2014 12:20:38 AM

Some other info would be useful, like
- Did you completely uninstall the old drivers before installing the new ones?
- What model is your hd6850?
- Are you running windows 7?
- Have you overclocked the graphics card at all?

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