Problems with int and ext HDD..
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Sir, I ran error check on my ext HDD (toshiba internal and Sony external) by means of HD tune Pro), it found the damaged blocks saying "Damage at 72xxxxx MB (LGA xxxxxx)".. Is there a way to find and delete those files (by any means of method or software programs)?
Or running chkdsk /r will repair them?
Or running chkdsk /r will repair them?
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Ok then , opening NFI.exe made command prompt window to flash for a second.. I don't know what happened whether it might have stored a file of that what happened in that second or it is not running in the correct place.. Or should i keep the nfi.xe file in the external drive and run it? Do you know how to use NFI.exe tool?
I had another thread in which another expert said that reallocated sectors count is on 5 in my internal drive (toshiba drive) and it went down to 5 from 100.. So, when it reaches 1 and if it gets used too, then my hard drive will fail..? According to my knowledge, read/write error causes this reallocated sectors problem. So, will avoiding the use of copy/move of files into my int. hard drive keeps that "5" steady for even a long time? or just browsing, installing games, etc has the chance to make that count go even down from "5" ?
I had another thread in which another expert said that reallocated sectors count is on 5 in my internal drive (toshiba drive) and it went down to 5 from 100.. So, when it reaches 1 and if it gets used too, then my hard drive will fail..? According to my knowledge, read/write error causes this reallocated sectors problem. So, will avoiding the use of copy/move of files into my int. hard drive keeps that "5" steady for even a long time? or just browsing, installing games, etc has the chance to make that count go even down from "5" ?
NFI.EXE appears to be a CLI tool, not a GUI tool. If so, then you would need to execute it within a CMD window. What appears to be happening now is that the CMD window opens for a brief second, during which time it executes NFI.EXE and then closes.
As for your Toshiba drive, it is reporting that it has reallocated 5 sectors. A drive is deemed to have failed when the Normalised (Current) value of a critical attribute falls below its Threshold. In your case the Current value of 100 is still above the Threshold of 50. You can think of the Raw value as an actual error count, whereas the Normalised values are more like health scores. For example, a drive with 0 bad sectors might receive a health score of 100. As it develops bad sectors, this health score falls. For example, 200 bad sectors might reduce the health score to 80. When the health drops below the threshold, then the drive is deemed to have failed.
As for your Toshiba drive, it is reporting that it has reallocated 5 sectors. A drive is deemed to have failed when the Normalised (Current) value of a critical attribute falls below its Threshold. In your case the Current value of 100 is still above the Threshold of 50. You can think of the Raw value as an actual error count, whereas the Normalised values are more like health scores. For example, a drive with 0 bad sectors might receive a health score of 100. As it develops bad sectors, this health score falls. For example, 200 bad sectors might reduce the health score to 80. When the health drops below the threshold, then the drive is deemed to have failed.
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But what I came to know from the other thread in same tom's hardware is that the reallocated sectors count, counts down from 100 to 0 and now I lost 95 and remaining is only 5.. Also that storage expert said to replace my hard drive.. I didn't make another thread in some intention, I thought this thread went unnoticed and so created new one.. That too went unnoticed with many reads.. So, I contacted you through private message and now both the threads were answered by experts.. Now I'm under confusion..
I'm looking at this SMART screenshot:
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/433x383q90/674/25fa06.jpg
In that other thread, "techgeek" is confusing the raw value with the normalised value. Your Toshiba drive is nowhere near as bad as s/he makes it out to be. In fact the raw value of the Reallocated Sector Count increases over time -- it never decreases. However, the Current value of the Reallocated Sector Count does decrease over time -- it never increases.
As for the Current Pending Sector Count, this represents the number of sectors that the drive has found to be bad or very difficult to read. When the OS next writes to these sectors, the drive knows that the existing data are no longer required. It then retests the sector and returns it to service if good, or writes the data to a spare sector and reallocates the LBA. When this happens, the raw value of the Pending count decreases by 1 and the Reallocated count increases by 1. You can sometimes clear the pending count by zero-filling your drive (this is data destructive!).
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/433x383q90/674/25fa06.jpg
In that other thread, "techgeek" is confusing the raw value with the normalised value. Your Toshiba drive is nowhere near as bad as s/he makes it out to be. In fact the raw value of the Reallocated Sector Count increases over time -- it never decreases. However, the Current value of the Reallocated Sector Count does decrease over time -- it never increases.
As for the Current Pending Sector Count, this represents the number of sectors that the drive has found to be bad or very difficult to read. When the OS next writes to these sectors, the drive knows that the existing data are no longer required. It then retests the sector and returns it to service if good, or writes the data to a spare sector and reallocates the LBA. When this happens, the raw value of the Pending count decreases by 1 and the Reallocated count increases by 1. You can sometimes clear the pending count by zero-filling your drive (this is data destructive!).
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This is what you're trying to say right? A snip from S.M.A.R.T. wikipedia info under section 6.1
So, correct me if i'm wrong, my reallocated sectors count is 5 and it's threshold is 50.. So, when it exceeds 50, i should start worrying seriously.. Right?
So, correct me if i'm wrong, my reallocated sectors count is 5 and it's threshold is 50.. So, when it exceeds 50, i should start worrying seriously.. Right?
Here's an analogy.
Let's say that your body is the HDD, and let's say that Blood Pressure is a critical SMART attribute.
A BP of 120/80 would result in a Current value of 100, ie a 100% health score.
An increase in BP to 140/90 might reduce your health to 80%, say, and 160/100 might further reduce it to 60%.
A BP of 300 would score 0% health and you would be dead.
Your doctor may choose to set the health threshold at 60% or 80%, at which time he will warn you that you should start adjusting your lifestyle (or backing up your data).
The blood pressure readings are Raw values, whereas the Health scores are Normalised values. Obviously your BP can improve, so the Current health score can be higher than the Worst.
Let's say that your body is the HDD, and let's say that Blood Pressure is a critical SMART attribute.
A BP of 120/80 would result in a Current value of 100, ie a 100% health score.
An increase in BP to 140/90 might reduce your health to 80%, say, and 160/100 might further reduce it to 60%.
A BP of 300 would score 0% health and you would be dead.
Your doctor may choose to set the health threshold at 60% or 80%, at which time he will warn you that you should start adjusting your lifestyle (or backing up your data).
The blood pressure readings are Raw values, whereas the Health scores are Normalised values. Obviously your BP can improve, so the Current health score can be higher than the Worst.
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Now I understand 
.. Doubts are over with int HDD.. But my external HDD's current pending sector count values are unstable.. it's still under warranty, but working fine.. How to prove the problem to them so that i can get replacement?
.. Doubts are over with int HDD.. But my external HDD's current pending sector count values are unstable.. it's still under warranty, but working fine.. How to prove the problem to them so that i can get replacement?SeaTools is meant for testing any drives that Seagate manufactures or has acquired (eg Maxtor, Quantum, Conner peripherals, Samsung). It performs various tests including SMART analysis, drive self tests (short, long), surface scans, etc.
Your ST1000LM024 / HN-M101MBB is really a Samsung drive with a Samsung part number and a Seagate model number.
Your ST1000LM024 / HN-M101MBB is really a Samsung drive with a Samsung part number and a Seagate model number.
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