I'm considering the Radeon R9 290x or NVidia 780 gtx ti for my specs.

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Greetings to all viewing. This is my first post ever here at Tom's Hardware, and I apologise in advance for being a little wordy. I wanted to be specific in order to maximise my chances of great feedback! Thank you for reading, and even more thanks for great replies in advance!

I'll have a budget of 800 or so bucks specifically for my video card, although with the value for money that the R9 290x offers I am seriously considering buying that card, even though I am an NVidia fanboy. After this card I will be buying a psu, as the current one I have will not be sufficient. I will be buying the card that this thread suggests in approximately 2 weeks, and the psu I will purchase within a few weeks of that and I am aware I cannot run the new graphics card until i purchase the higher watt psu.

I'll be using the card primarily for Divinity: Original Sin and FFXIV, as well as a home theatre solution in conjunction with the speakers and television I own, and I hope to run graphically intense games further into the future as well with this particular upgrade. I currently own a Samsung Television and Monitor, which will both run at 1920x1080 resolution, in dual-display mode so that I multi-task with messaging and television watching using a TV-Tuner card while I game. I currently can do this, although I need to limit the frame rate of FFXIV and other games, using EVGA Precision-X software so that the temperature of the GPU doesn't go too high. It normally runs at 85 degrees celcius as the highest I'm comfortabe with in this mode, and normally during peak performance loads runs around 80, not overclocked. I find that 50fps keeps the temperature at an acceptable level for the gaming that I do in FFXIV.

For the life of me I don't know my current psu, however, it is a stock 500w one that came with a thermaltake case, and i currently have an NVidia GeForce 560 Ti, which I believe was a Twin Frozr model, so while I am working I thought that it was time for an upgrade.

I am planning to buy from PC Casegear in Australia this particular psu:

Seasonic XP-760 Platinum 760W Power Supply V2

I believe that the platinum rating will assist power bills and efficiency, and I have read that 600W is theoretically enough I would like to have a little more juice available just in case, although I would consider another psu if recommended. Newegg in Australia only currently sells one brand of psu, and I believe that Seasonic is a more reliable brand (although more expensive additionally) than the only one offered in Australia, so I needed to shop elsewhere. I won't be overclocking nor using SLI or crossfire, as I would prefer a single gpu to multiple, and I think that these particular gpu's I'm considering wouldn't really need to be overclocked to meet my needs.

My System Specs are as follows:

Samsung Series 6 40 inch H6400 3D LEDTV.
Samsung Series 3 24 inch monitor.

I run a Intel Core i7-2600K @ 3.4GHz (factory overclocked Sandy Bridge) on an:
ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe/Gen3 with 16MB of Corsair Vengenance (4x4GB) CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9

I use an inexpensive ThermalTake case, however it has excellent ventillation, 4 fans, and 2 fans on a CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler for the CPU.

I used to just run a stock intel fan and 2 fans in the system, and it used to suffer overheating issues on occasion, forcing me to lower the speed of the CPU. With the extra fans it doesn't seem to and the CoolerMaster installed.

My preferred website for parts is Newegg.com however PCCaseGear has a better alternative for the R9 290x model that I was looking at.

The 2 cards that I am putting side by side are the:

ASUS DirectCU II GTX780TI-DC2OC-3GD5 GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card at newegg.com

and the:

ASUS Radeon R9 290X DirectCU II OC 4GB at pccasegear.com

I am also an asus fanboy so both of these models are asus versions, however I am open to alternatives. The 780 gtx ti is AU$741.00, and the R9 290x is listed at AU$629.00, reduced from AU$725.00.

In my purchase I am considering performance, price, operating temperature, operating noise, and the quality of the parts as my purchasing motives.

I have done as much research as I can to make an informed decision without needing to make a post, however the amount of variables and contention made me realise that hopefully a post would be appropriate for me and this is a great opportunity to receive some assistance in my decision.

Hopefully my case has the cooling it needs for the card, I really think it should be ok, until I upgrade a few things in November. I have a temperature monitor, and the highest it ever reached was 58 degrees celcius inside the case, and that was in very hot days during Australia's peak temperatures in summer. The CPU was ok, however this is why operating temperature is a consideration for me. During winter it's ok, right now it's only 21 degrees inside the case.

So basically to cut that long story short, which is the better upgrade considering my system specs, the 290x or the 780gtx ti?

Thank you again for reading this post, and the consideration given in your answers.

stevo-sonic.
 
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According to your links only the Direct CU and Kingpin cards are available in Australia (through Newegg, other suppliers may stock them).
Which is a little handy because I'd suggest the Asus as best option, but, lets face it, they're all super cards so you're going to get something special whatever you purchase.
Its very simple, you will pay a premium for best, in this case, 780ti. In relative performance, 780ti is 8% percent better than 290x. In US (courtesy of newegg), 780 is going for $640 and 290x is going for $520, meaning 780ti is 18.75% more expensive but only 8% percent better. Also, its important to note that 290x wastes significantly more power and runs hotter on average than 780ti.
 
According to the wall of text ;) you'll game on one display EXCLUSIVELY, leaving the other for other tasks.
If so you don't really need either card TBH, their less expensive siblings (R9 290, GTX780) are bordering on overkill for a single 1080 display, even for the most uber demanding games so I'll suggest you drop to one of those instead.
Either way the pros and cons remain the same:
Power wise, the GTX780/780Ti wins hands down, both under load and at idle and the Asus coolers keep things cool and do so quietly-very handy for your HTPC uses. And don't downplay either PhysX, Shadowplay or Nvidias better AA options, AMD cards still suffer a more significant performance penalty than Nvidia with AA enabled.
Price wise the R9 290/290X wins hands down but it does produce more heat, luckily that Asus Direct CU cooler is still effective at taming its thermals, although the Sapphire Tri-X or MSI Lightning are both quieter and cooler, particularly under full load. It also has a extra 1Gb of memory, and with a few games already pushing into that 3Gb area you may decide to go AMD for that reason.
It's a hard decision: It's MEANT to be a hard decision, that's why the two cards are competing so strongly for your hard earned Dollars but, ultimately all we can do is advise, it's up to you to decide which feature/features are most important to YOU.
All those coolers will be happy to be inside such a well ventilated case BTW.
 

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Cooling is very important to me, I think it would effect the longevity of the card in my hot summer conditions. Anti-Alaising I've never really had a card that could handle it, so maybe either card wouldn't be overkill if I decide to max those settings out for extended periods of time. Also hearing from you guys that the ti draws less power is a definite bonus. Also the operating temperature being lower on the ti certainly weighs in it's favor. The 290x has more ram though, although weighing that against the previously mentioned pro's, the decision is becoming clearer. Also the AU$740 price isn't too bad from australian newegg relatively and newegg in australia currently doesn't have any of those cards the tri-x and and vapor-x for example, on sale here. They are available here, but are actually more expensive than the ASUS gtx ti i mentioned. The decision is clearer than before however i will check pricing in the next week or two before i make my final decision. For AU$70 more i could potentially purchase the EVGA classified gtx 780 ti also. Is that worth the extra 70 do you think ? Decisions, decisions.
 

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thank you i'll think on that. the running hotter would be a concern for me especially.
 

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Of course. The EVGA GTX 780Ti Classified is worth every Australian dollar. It's going to give you some top-notch performance in games and overclocks like a champ if you ever need extra firepower.

 
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It's an awesome card, top class quality and superb cooling.
Like I said earlier, the 780Ti and R9 290X are a bit more than you'll probably need, but check out some (more?) reviews before making a decision. When checking the numbers bear in mind that without a 120 or 144Hz display anything over 60FPS is just creating excess heat.
Little odd the AMD cards are more expensive but if that remains the case their main attraction of lower pricing vanishes and really only leaves you with one decision: Which GTX780 do I purchase?
 

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These were the ones i thought of at Newegg to consider (all 780gtx ti)

EVGA 03G-P4-2888-KR GeForce GTX 780 Ti Dual Classified w/ EVGA ACX Cooler 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487007&cm_re=gtx_geforce_780_ti-_-14-487-007-_-Product
Although it's out of stock right now, it might be back there when I make my purchase in a week or two.

EVGA 03G-P4-2884-KR GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support w/EVGA ACX Cooler Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487003&cm_re=gtx_geforce_780_ti-_-14-487-003-_-Product
This one again is out of stock, but I've been watching these two cards, they come in and out of stock quite frequently.

ASUS DirectCU II GTX780TI-DC2OC-3GD5 GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121838&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6146836&SID=18u0kg6vyydug

Also out of stock for the moment. I'm glad that I'm not purchasing now!

These were the 3 cards that I would be primarily considering for purchase. Another thing is that I get can 75hz from both my monitor and TV, and with the extra grunt of these cards I was considering running at that frequency.

Cheers for the input guys I'll keep you all posted on how I go.

p.s. the only card that I would consider right now that 'is' in stock is the k|ngp|n at AU$916. It might really be a stretch for my budget, but I'll see in a week or two when I buy what I can afford. I've heard and read good things of this card, although it seems primarily marketed to overclockers, which I probably won't be doing.

EVGA 03G-P4-3888-KR GeForce GTX 780 Ti Classified K|NGP|N Edition 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487037&cm_re=gtx_geforce_780_ti-_-14-487-037-_-Product
 

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Go for 780ti, I am using 290X tri-x and it runs max settings DivinityOS silky smooth at 67c and I have frikkin 33c outside now.

But if it costs the same as 780ti for you then it's no brainer - get Ti. For me it was about $160 cheaper than Ti so I went for it and love it very much.
 
According to your links only the Direct CU and Kingpin cards are available in Australia (through Newegg, other suppliers may stock them).
Which is a little handy because I'd suggest the Asus as best option, but, lets face it, they're all super cards so you're going to get something special whatever you purchase.
 
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Well guys and coozie7 I've ordered locally the ASUS Card. (780ti OC)
I think that way I'll get better support and I won't have to pay postage!
I really appreciate everyone's time, and great answers.
The price was a little more, however the local man has a great reputation and he's taken my order now, so that I can most likely pick up the card when my next pay cheque comes in woohoo!
Also, I think he could probably provide a good psu solution.
Thank you once more, and I've put up my best answer. Cheers all!