AMD FX-6300 + GTX 760 SLI = Bottleneck?

AJergy · Jul 23, 2014

I will be getting a GTX 760 with an AMD FX 6300, but will be getting a second card for an SLI configuration, will I need to go for an 8350 in order to prevent a bottleneck or will a 6300 be fine?

Here's the card: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GTX760-Dual-Link-04G-P4-3768-KR/dp/B00E0N49C8/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1406139586&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=gtx+760+4gb

Here's the CPU: http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD6300WMHKBOX-FX-6300-6-Core-Processor/dp/B009O7YORK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406140878&sr=1-1&keywords=fx+6300

JOOK-D · Jul 23, 2014

The 6300 and 8350 will perform almost exactly the same in most gaming situations. The extra 2 cores often aren't utilised - most games won't use more than 4 cores/threads.

May I ask why you want to get SLI'd 760's? A single beefier GPU would be more effective than 2 in SLI, as not every game is optimised for SLI and it can cause more problems like microstutter. Ultimately it isn't worth it IMO.

As for your question, yes there would be a bottleneck. There would arguably be a bottleneck with just one 760. There will be almost no difference between the 6300 and 8350. IMO get an i3 4xxx and a H97 board instead of an AMD solution. The per-core performance is much higher, and the i3's perform comparably or better than the 6300, sometimes the 8350 depending on the task.

What is the setup you have configured?

AJergy · Jul 23, 2014

JOOK-D :

The 6300 and 8350 will perform almost exactly the same in most gaming situations. The extra 2 cores often aren't utilised - most games won't use more than 4 cores/threads.

May I ask why you want to get SLI'd 760's? A single beefier GPU would be more effective than 2 in SLI, as not every game is optimised for SLI and it can cause more problems like microstutter. Ultimately it isn't worth it IMO.

As for your question, yes there would be a bottleneck. There would arguably be a bottleneck with just one 760. There will be almost no difference between the 6300 and 8350. IMO get an i3 4xxx and a H97 board instead of an AMD solution. The per-core performance is much higher, and the i3's perform comparably or better than the 6300, sometimes the 8350 depending on the task.

What is the setup you have configured?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/vkvFbv

JOOK-D · Jul 23, 2014

If you're not looking to overclock:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Dual FTW ACX Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1338.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-23 15:19 EDT-0400

FYI, the Xeon 1231v3 is an i7 4770 minus the iGPU (which is disabled regardless) and minus 100MHz (negligible difference). However it's about $50 cheaper, absolute gem.

I'd expect the 780 to happily outperform the 2 760's in most scenarios.

Even the FX 9590 at 5 GHz won't match the Xeon in just about any task. The Xeon cannot be overclocked but that is not even an issue.

If you were still interested in overclocking:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($115.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Dual FTW ACX Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1319.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-23 15:23 EDT-0400

The i5 4690k is at about the top of gaming performance. Often the i7's hyperthreading won't offer any more performance, and you can overclock this i5 compared to the Xeon. Even then the CPU's are so strong overclocking often won't make that much of an impact.

The choice is up to you. IMO these builds are far more balanced, and the 6300 would provide a bottleneck.

AJergy · Jul 24, 2014

JOOK-D :

If you're not looking to overclock:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Dual FTW ACX Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1338.53
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-23 15:19 EDT-0400

FYI, the Xeon 1231v3 is an i7 4770 minus the iGPU (which is disabled regardless) and minus 100MHz (negligible difference). However it's about $50 cheaper, absolute gem.

I'd expect the 780 to happily outperform the 2 760's in most scenarios.

Even the FX 9590 at 5 GHz won't match the Xeon in just about any task. The Xeon cannot be overclocked but that is not even an issue.

If you were still interested in overclocking:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($115.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Dual FTW ACX Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1319.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-23 15:23 EDT-0400

The i5 4690k is at about the top of gaming performance. Often the i7's hyperthreading won't offer any more performance, and you can overclock this i5 compared to the Xeon. Even then the CPU's are so strong overclocking often won't make that much of an impact.

The choice is up to you. IMO these builds are far more balanced, and the 6300 would provide a bottleneck.

My budget is 1,100 tho. :c

JOOK-D · Jul 24, 2014

Oh, why was your build originally over $1300 then? :lol:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1053.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

AJergy · Jul 24, 2014

JOOK-D :

Oh, why was your build originally over $1300 then? :lol:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($309.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($95.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1053.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Because I wasn't supposed to have the SLI'd 760s LOL I'm adding those later. Thanks for the build/help

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