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r9 290 non x vs gtx 780

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July 23, 2014 5:04:57 PM

hi i was wondering which one would be better i am a big fan of g sync but mantle is really cool to i also like nvidia shield for game stream but i can survive without that anyways i really like my performance aswell as a big guy for cooling so which one is the best for the moneyvaswell can anyone tell me which one is more powerful and by how much i am most definitely gonna over clock and go sli/ crossfire in the future any help would be great thx !!

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July 23, 2014 5:07:53 PM

The 290 is generally a bit faster and cheaper. This is what I would go for. Be sure to get one with a good aftermarket cooler however, as they do get VERY hot.

If you like the features that Nvidia provide and can get a good price on the 780, it's far from a bad card either. In the end, I think the feature set and price should be the deciding factor.

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1068?vs=1036
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July 23, 2014 5:10:41 PM

dav_jw said:
The 290 is generally a bit faster and cheaper. This is what I would go for. Be sure to get one with a good aftermarket cooler however, as they do get VERY hot.

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1068?vs=1036


Cheaper? I don't know about that. It's also not quite as fast as a GTX 780. The R9 290 is tucked right between the 770 and 780.
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July 23, 2014 5:13:43 PM

Avg price for the 290 is around 400$ vs 500$ on the 780 (USA and Canada). At 1080p performance is probably about identical, but the higher resolution you go, the larger the gap.
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July 23, 2014 5:15:15 PM

It is cheaper indeed, but it is not faster, it performs between a 770 and 780 as you said. It's about $80-$100 cheaper.
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July 23, 2014 5:21:42 PM

Well.....

Mantle's claim to fame is on ow end hardware....has very little impact w/ high end stuff
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-mantle-performa...

What resolution and are you going to manually OC ? If ta take G-Sync, PhysX, ShadowPlay etc outta the equation if you are not going to get into manually OC'ing your cards with Afterbrner, than I tend to lean towards AMD. If you are going to OC, then I lean nVidia. based upon my own experience, this is how I'd stack them up

780 Ti OC'd
780 Ti / 780 OC'd
290x OC'd
290 OC'd / 290x
780 / 290

That pretty much holds for 1920 and 2560 resolution ...above that things lean AMD

If sound is in the picture, the MSI 780 / 780 Ti sweep the floor with everything else.

290x = 40 dBA
290 = 49 dbA
780 = 36 dbA
780 Ti = 39 dbA





IMPORTANT: When you buy is a big factor ... for example ... for past 10 weeks or so, the MSI 780 Ti has been $600 every other week .... on the off weeks it's been $670 - $710.

Also.... check what you are buying matters:

MSI 780 Ti = 1020 Core Clock / 30 dbA / 9.9 TPU rating / $600 every other week / $700 today
Asus 780 Ti = 964 Core Clock / 39 dbA / 9.4 TPU rating / $660 today
EVGA 780 Ti = 1006 Core Clock / 35 dbA / 9.5 TPU rating / $680 Today

TPU = Techpowerup

On the 780 the prices are less volatile

MSI -= $440
EVGA = $500
Asus = $500

290x's are mostly in the $550 range buit the games may be change the economics if you need them. the 290 they have almost started giving it away at $350 - $370


If you manually overclocking up to 2560 resolution....

MSI OC's is fastest option,m short of the 780 Ti
MSI OC's is quietest option
MSI is cheapest option

If not mnanually overclocking, i think I;d go with the 290 is the noise doesn't bother ya.
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July 23, 2014 5:22:18 PM

Ytyoussef said:
It is cheaper indeed, but it is not faster, it performs between a 770 and 780 as you said. It's about $80-$100 cheaper.


Are you sure? We are talking about the 290 (non-x) vs 780 (non-ti). Most benchmarks I recall seeing suggest that the 290 is a close match for the 780 at worst, and at best closer to the 780Ti.
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July 23, 2014 5:36:08 PM

I am sure, it performs close to the gtx 780 but just a tad behind it, it shines at high resolutions though.
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July 23, 2014 5:39:38 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Well.....

Mantle's claim to fame is on ow end hardware....has very little impact w/ high end stuff
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-mantle-performa...

What resolution and are you going to manually OC ? If ta take G-Sync, PhysX, ShadowPlay etc outta the equation if you are not going to get into manually OC'ing your cards with Afterbrner, than I tend to lean towards AMD. If you are going to OC, then I lean nVidia. based upon my own experience, this is how I'd stack them up

780 Ti OC'd
780 Ti / 780 OC'd
290x OC'd
290 OC'd / 290x
780 / 290

That pretty much holds for 1920 and 2560 resolution ...above that things lean AMD

If sound is in the picture, the MSI 780 / 780 Ti sweep the floor with everything else.

290x = 40 dBA
290 = 49 dbA
780 = 36 dbA
780 Ti = 39 dbA


You're comparing it to the reference r9 290... Have a look at this: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7601/sapphire-radeon-r9-2...
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July 23, 2014 5:47:24 PM

I compared it to what wasI found witha quick look at TPU.... comparing different sites doesn't work but it's no secret that the R9s are loud, especially when the uber switch is thrown. Too bad TPU didn't get any aftermarket 290's to test

I don't see how it changes things tho..... wasn't trying to show a difference between nVidia and AMD as I was between the MSI stuff and the other vendors. The Anadtech reference says the best 290 they tested was 41 dbA, that's still more than twice as loud as the MSI 780's 30 dBA
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July 23, 2014 5:50:13 PM

Yeah, up to 1080P, it basically depends on who the game favors (which seems to give Nvidia the edge).
The noise really depends on the cooler, not much on the card. Be really careful when picking, some 290 are LOUD.

I stand by what I said earlier, You are essentially picking depending on price VS features.

Edit: In case you want a second opinion on Mantle: it is irrelevant.
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July 23, 2014 6:08:08 PM

dav_jw said:
Yeah, up to 1080P, it basically depends on who the game favors (which seems to give Nvidia the edge).
The noise really depends on the cooler, not much on the card. Be really careful when picking, some 290 are LOUD.


If ya look at the graphs, you will find not a lot changes at 2560 at the highest echelon.... Ti maintains its 16% lead over the 290x at both 2560 and 1920.....as you go down from the hi end, the gaps start to widen....the Titan drops a few notches and the 780 too to a lesser extent.



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July 23, 2014 6:20:06 PM

JackNaylorPE said:

If ya look at the graphs, you will find not a lot changes at 2560 at the highest echelon.... Ti maintains its 16% lead over the 290x at both 2560 and 1920.....as you go down from the hi end, the gaps start to widen....the Titan drops a few notches and the 780 too to a lesser extent.


This comment was regarding 290 vs 780. 290x vs 780Ti, there is no contest, even at higher res the 780Ti is the faster card.

Reference 290/290X (if still available) should be avoided, unless you plan to replace the cooler.

I believe some manufacturer even use the same cooler for their 780/Ti and 290/X, but yeah, I agree that "by default" the 780/Ti would be the quieter card, even with the same cooler, as it use less power, generates less heat and thus needs less cooling (lower fan speed).
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July 23, 2014 6:32:42 PM

What I was getting at was..... there really is NOT a big difference in ranking between the 1920 and 2560 resolutions....gap narrows tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djvZaHHU4I8

See 9:40 mark

Again, not really trying to highlight differences in sound between AMD / nVidia ... was trying to focus on the difference between MSI's 780 at 30 dbA and everybody else's
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