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July 24, 2014 12:34:11 AM

Hello I'm throwing away the console and games and am now ready to build my own pc and start gaming my heart out on it. There's just a couple problems. Idk what to buy. It has to be 500 or less but has to perform very well also. I have no problem upgrading parts in the next year or 2 but I want something that will perform great when gaming 6 to 8 hours a day with good graphics and speed. I have a microcenter 45 minutes from me I just don't know what to get or buy. I'm very much a noob but I'm wanting to change all of that in the pc realm. Please help me. I just need plenty of suggestions and help so I can get this all done in the next 2 weeks. Thank you. Also please type down the pieces and prices of them so I can just pick them up from my microcenter. Thank you very very much!
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July 24, 2014 12:44:16 AM

Do you already have any parts?
Monitor, maybe some HDD? If you by any chance have an HDD, you can add an SSD later on, and try for now something like this:

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
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a b 4 Gaming
July 24, 2014 12:48:53 AM

Does that $500 include an operating system?
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July 24, 2014 12:51:32 AM

No I'm going to buy a monitor and Windows 8 that same day but the 500 is strictly for everything else
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July 24, 2014 12:56:08 AM

Something like this imo

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($69.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 260X 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $500.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-24 03:53 EDT-0400
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a b 4 Gaming
July 24, 2014 1:11:38 AM

LucoTF gave you a nice build.
It would be really nice if you could bump up the budget a bit, to try and get a R9 270/R9 270x for better gaming experience.
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July 24, 2014 1:12:50 AM

Pr3di said:
LucoTF gave you a nice build.
It would be really nice if you could bump up the budget a bit, to try and get a R9 270/R9 270x for better gaming experience.


Yeah the 260x is generally good for 1080p/medium or 720p/high but that's about it
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July 24, 2014 6:37:52 AM

Not overclocking saves you on the heatsink and motherboard.
Cheaper case + power supply so I could fit in the R9 270X. Would give a huge performance increase.

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core ($69.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ($89.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) ($75.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 320GB ($41.51 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB 256bit ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Diablotek DIAMOND ATX Mid Tower Case w/400W Power Supply ($29.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $489.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-24 09:31 EDT-0400

Also no mail-in rebates.
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July 24, 2014 6:58:36 AM

t3nn1spr3p said:
Not overclocking saves you on the heatsink and motherboard.
Cheaper case + power supply so I could fit in the R9 270X. Would give a huge performance increase.

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core ($69.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ($89.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) ($75.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 320GB ($41.51 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB 256bit ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Diablotek DIAMOND ATX Mid Tower Case w/400W Power Supply ($29.99 @ Micro Center)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $489.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-24 09:31 EDT-0400

Also no mail-in rebates.


I know you said not overclocking, but you can still OC a bit even with your setup (H97 + stock cooling) which would give a nice boost to the g3258

You need to change that 1.65v ram though
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July 24, 2014 7:24:31 AM

LucoTF- how long could I be able to game on that build before I would have to upgrade parts and stuff. Also will that build allow me to play other great intensive games to come? Oh and will the dual core be a problem, bc I believe I read or heard that dual sucks for gaming
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July 24, 2014 7:52:22 AM

Gabe Sandstrom said:
LucoTF- how long could I be able to game on that build before I would have to upgrade parts and stuff. Also will that build allow me to play other great intensive games to come? Oh and will the dual core be a problem, bc I believe I read or heard that dual sucks for gaming


Don't believe everything you hear - two good cores are better than 4 weak ones. Look at performance of this chip vs the quad core athlon 750k and you'll see what I mean (hint - the dual core wins).

The build should be good for a while, especially as the anniversary board overclocks at the press of a button:
http://cdn4.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ASR...

but because it's a x97 build you can easily upgrade the CPU in future to an i5 or i7, so it's built to be built upon (if that makes sense)
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July 24, 2014 8:02:54 AM

Ok that makes sense. Will that graphics card do well for a while or will I have to upgrade that also with in the next year or 2?
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July 24, 2014 8:02:56 AM

Ok that makes sense. Will that graphics card do well for a while or will I have to upgrade that also with in the next year or 2?
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July 24, 2014 8:05:23 AM

LucoTF- that makes sense. Will I have to also upgrade my graphics card in the next year also? I plan on upgrading a bit after time I just don't wanna make it one huge money pit. Like I want it to always feel great and running great but I also want good graphics
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July 24, 2014 8:11:33 AM

I think one good upgrade of the CPU and one good upgrade of the GPU and it will last for years. Right now it's a very decent starter rig :) 
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July 24, 2014 8:16:54 AM

LucoTF- thanks
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a b 4 Gaming
July 24, 2014 8:24:30 AM

If nothing else I hope I've given you a starting point for your microcentre visit
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July 24, 2014 8:33:12 AM

Pr3di said:
Do you already have any parts?
Monitor, maybe some HDD? If you by any chance have an HDD, you can add an SSD later on, and try for now something like this:

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 270X 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply


personally i think the FX 6300 is much more future proof
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July 24, 2014 8:38:40 AM

Beezy said:
personally i think the FX 6300 is much more future proof


It's 18 months old and already behind the current mid-range offerings from intel, with more intel CPUs on the way (that will be compatible with the x97 boards). Having two extra cores isn't going to save it from extinction, certain tasks can only ever go through one thread and that's why you get dimishing returns with each additional core.
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July 24, 2014 8:41:56 AM

I would never recommend a dual core processor to anyone for any reason. Those CPUs are for low-end OEM laptops and desktops that people buy from Best Buy for cheap. They are for casual users. Like someone said, don't believe the hype (regarding synthetic benchmarks and AMD cores being "weak"). Your GPU will determine your gaming performance.

With a low end GPU you will not notice the difference with a 2, 4, 6 or 8 core (or an i3, FX or i7 for that matter). However, everything else you do will have an effect, including Windows updates, program installations, multi-tasking, etc. The new consoles have 8 cores in them to have a longer shelf life so that much higher performance can be achieved as time passes. Time has already passed by on dual-core chips.

For a gaming budget build, the person who recommended the FX-6300 pointed in the right direction. You will be sorely disappointed purchasing a dual-core processor in the year 2014.

My wife has an i3 in her laptop and I have a dual-core A6 in my laptop. Both chips are crap. We bought them for cheap from Best Buy and HHGregg thinking, "hey, we don't need all those cores". This was a few years ago when I got back into tech. If you just want to use Facebook and surf the web then go with a Pentium.

However, you will have much better performance in real-life using your PC (as opposed to synthetic benchmarks) with the FX-6300 over a Pentium processor, especially in gaming.

Just my two cents.
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July 24, 2014 8:49:06 AM

DirectX 12 is being written for cores, simply put. games are utilizing more cores. All the consoles have 8 cores. if the APIs are to get any more streamlined the FX line will only get better. more streamlined development across all platforms is a win win for everyone.

The FX 6300 can be overclocked to match an FX 8320 in performance pretty easily. Dual cores are being left behind, id love to watch that pentium struggle with a new game like watch dogs. Minimum requirements is a quad core intel/AMD and ubisoft recommends i7/FX8350. If all OP wants to play is minecraft and MMORPGS (and games up to 2012 that is) then the pentium dual core will due, these games rely on strong single threads. But newer AAA games want cores and a STRONG GPU, for a lot of these new games a dual core just wont cut it for long.
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July 24, 2014 8:49:40 AM

Anyone stating that the cores are not used either: a) only surfs the web; b) does not monitor CPU usage in task manager. The argument about not using multiple cores/threads really no longer applies in the year 2014. Why HT the i3 if it does not matter? Why HT a i7?...

The only game I own that only uses two cores is StarCraft 2. The CPU spreads its workload out over threads to maintain efficiency and keeping resources free for other tasks. While playing BF3, all 8 of my cores run smoothly. Other games its 4 to 6. So instead of two cores at 100% (which is what you are going to get with a dual core), your CPU will spread workload to say, 6 cores each at around 20% utilization.

Also, to compare the two-core Pentium to the FX-6300 is not really a comparison. The Pentium simply does not have the resources to compete with the 6300 in demanding tasks (i.e. more than just web surfing). It is not even HT. Does it even have a L3 cache? L3 cache is important for gaming.

Either way, I advice the OP to do more research.
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July 24, 2014 8:52:03 AM

Thanks Beezy for talking some sense. Intel marketing is great! They have convinced a large portion of the market that a two core, two thread CPU can outperform a 6-core CPU! That is incredible.

And since when is 18 months old for a CPU? How often do you upgrade CPUs anyway? The CPU should be the last upgrade if you built right the first time. It is already the fastest component in the entire system.
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July 24, 2014 8:57:32 AM

LucoTF said:
Beezy said:
personally i think the FX 6300 is much more future proof


It's 18 months old and already behind the current mid-range offerings from intel, with more intel CPUs on the way (that will be compatible with the x97 boards). Having two extra cores isn't going to save it from extinction, certain tasks can only ever go through one thread and that's why you get dimishing returns with each additional core.


also the age is such a stupid point to make, an i7 3960X was released like 2 or more years ago?? are you going to tell me that chip shouldn't be considered because of its age? i dont think anyone here would be turning one away
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July 24, 2014 8:59:47 AM

TheLastof Me said:
Thanks Beezy for talking some sense. Intel marketing is great! They have convinced a large portion of the market that a two core, two thread CPU can outperform a 6-core CPU! That is incredible.

And since when is 18 months old for a CPU? How often do you upgrade CPUs anyway? The CPU should be the last upgrade if you built right the first time. It is already the fastest component in the entire system.


even calling it just 3 modules that can do 6 threads is still more appealing to me than 2 cores ,even if they are strong and can be overclocked, its very limited.
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July 24, 2014 11:18:05 AM

Wow that's a lot of words. Yet neither of you even mentioned that the FX is on a dead socket.

Replacing a cpu: update BIOS, replace CPU
Replacing a motherboard: Replace mobo, reinstall windows

One is certainly easier than the other.

I think you guys misinterpreted me, I meant to say 'just 18 months old'.

And at what point did I say 2 cores beats 6? lol
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July 25, 2014 12:03:45 AM

So what build would you guys recommend then? I'm switching because of the division, else scrolls online and a lot more fps games. I'm a strong gamer. I literally have at least 6 hours a day sometimes pushing 14. I need some real advice. I have 2 weeks to figure out what 500 budget computer to go with. Plz help and thanks for inputs
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July 25, 2014 12:24:17 AM



CPU: Intel Pentium G3220 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T4-18PK-R1 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($164.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $524.91

much better if you can go a little more? haha
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July 25, 2014 12:29:56 AM

Ok how about a 600 dollar build? Would that work well? I really wanna have a great transition and am very excited to be moving to pc. I just need something very good for gaming. Like I said for the division, elder scrolls online and other fps games. I want something smooth, pretty decent graphics and no lags lol
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a b 4 Gaming
July 25, 2014 12:44:11 AM

Here`s a suggestion for 600$, but I don`t know a lot about the CPU, so maybe can recommend something better in this price. Also, I managet to fit an R9 270x in there:

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Zp4VmG
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Zp4VmG/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 760K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($84.73 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI A78M-E35 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($57.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($178.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 350D Window MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $600.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-25 03:42 EDT-0400
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July 25, 2014 12:44:50 AM

Gabe Sandstrom said:
So what build would you guys recommend then? I'm switching because of the division, else scrolls online and a lot more fps games. I'm a strong gamer. I literally have at least 6 hours a day sometimes pushing 14. I need some real advice. I have 2 weeks to figure out what 500 budget computer to go with. Plz help and thanks for inputs


Ok well you have two options - AMD or Intel.

AMD will give you stronger performance-per-dollar right away. An intel build in your budget would be the pentium (dual core) or an i3 (DC with hyperthreading) which has stronger per-core performance than AMD while also having less overall cores.

Basically if you go intel you will probably look to upgrade to an i5 (or i7) in the near future (say, a year or two) and this will then beat the FX build and keep you in good standing for years. If you go AMD you will last longer before wanting a CPU upgrade, but when you do the only upgrade on the AM3+ socket is the FX-8350 and it may not give you the extra performance you were hoping for. Nobody knows at this point if AMD will ever make another CPU for AM3+...

The 6 core CPU in the AMD build is more future proof than a pentium / i3 build, but the lga1150 socket in the pentium / i3 build is more future proof than AM3+. I hope that makes sense.
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July 25, 2014 12:51:00 AM

$600 amd build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $598.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-25 03:50 EDT-0400

$600 intel build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($135.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($89.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Merc Alpha (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($21.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $609.56
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-25 03:49 EDT-0400

Hard to see you being disappointed with either of them tbh
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July 25, 2014 12:57:24 AM

I'm so lost lol. Give me the deal you'd do if you had 600 dollars to do a pc build. Include all the parts and the upgrades I will have to do so that my feet are at least set so that I have a good build to play all the newest and greatest titles but also a build I can easily add to as i need to. I truly want this pc to be a great starting point with great speed and great graphics but also something I can rely on for a year or 2 before I need to upgrade any parts. I want something that keeps me happy for years to come as I become a pc member
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July 25, 2014 1:20:35 AM

CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.97 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master RR-T4-18PK-R1 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.40 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 280 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($219.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $633.32

Haha,
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July 25, 2014 1:39:04 AM

Gabe Sandstrom said:
I'm so lost lol. Give me the deal you'd do if you had 600 dollars to do a pc build. Include all the parts and the upgrades I will have to do so that my feet are at least set so that I have a good build to play all the newest and greatest titles but also a build I can easily add to as i need to. I truly want this pc to be a great starting point with great speed and great graphics but also something I can rely on for a year or 2 before I need to upgrade any parts. I want something that keeps me happy for years to come as I become a pc member


I would go intel i3 (clearly, lol) for the stronger per-core performance and upgradeability. As for what CPU to upgrade to if you went i3? I can't answer that, the intel build will be forward compatible with processors that aren't even out yet (broadwell, due late 2014) I would definitely wait to see what they can do to improve per-core performance even more before considering an upgrade.

But others would go for the 8 core FX. I have to acknowledge that the FX-8320 build I posted would give great performance too, better than the i3 build in many games and it should definitely be good for gaming for a couple of years at least, even longer than that if gaming software really starts to use 5+ cores and use them well.

Both the i3 and FX builds I listed will play the latest titles on good settings and good framerates. But if you don't want to invest too much into your build after you buy it, then go AMD FX. The i5s and i7s are very strong, but they aren't cheap.
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July 25, 2014 2:15:06 AM

Thank you. I think the amd is the route I'll take then. Any ideas on what budget monitor and keyboard and mouse I should go with? Also is a Microsoft Xbox wired controller really a good tool to use also? I've heard a lot of good things and bad things about it. Please let me know your thoughts and what things I should add to this budget build. Also another question should I get Windows 8 or stream os? What's the pros and cons on that stuff also
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July 25, 2014 2:42:29 AM

Gabe Sandstrom said:
Thank you. I think the amd is the route I'll take then. Any ideas on what budget monitor and keyboard and mouse I should go with? Also is a Microsoft Xbox wired controller really a good tool to use also? I've heard a lot of good things and bad things about it. Please let me know your thoughts and what things I should add to this budget build. Also another question should I get Windows 8 or stream os? What's the pros and cons on that stuff also


Monitor - any monitor with a low response time (5ms or less) would do. Monitors with IPS have a richer color profile but they cost a little more too. It's hard to go wrong with a monitor

Keyboard & mouse - I use a cheap gigabyte gaming keyboard and an even cheaper Hp mouse so I'm not the best person to ask lol

xbox wired controller - perfect for anything but shooters, I use a wireless xbox controller on pc all the time

You should definitely consider windows 8
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July 25, 2014 6:08:06 AM

LucoTF said:
Wow that's a lot of words. Yet neither of you even mentioned that the FX is on a dead socket.

Replacing a cpu: update BIOS, replace CPU
Replacing a motherboard: Replace mobo, reinstall windows

One is certainly easier than the other.

I think you guys misinterpreted me, I meant to say 'just 18 months old'.

And at what point did I say 2 cores beats 6? lol


LucoTF said:
Gabe Sandstrom said:
So what build would you guys recommend then? I'm switching because of the division, else scrolls online and a lot more fps games. I'm a strong gamer. I literally have at least 6 hours a day sometimes pushing 14. I need some real advice. I have 2 weeks to figure out what 500 budget computer to go with. Plz help and thanks for inputs


Ok well you have two options - AMD or Intel.

AMD will give you stronger performance-per-dollar right away. An intel build in your budget would be the pentium (dual core) or an i3 (DC with hyperthreading) which has stronger per-core performance than AMD while also having less overall cores.

Basically if you go intel you will probably look to upgrade to an i5 (or i7) in the near future (say, a year or two) and this will then beat the FX build and keep you in good standing for years. If you go AMD you will last longer before wanting a CPU upgrade, but when you do the only upgrade on the AM3+ socket is the FX-8350 and it may not give you the extra performance you were hoping for. Nobody knows at this point if AMD will ever make another CPU for AM3+...

The 6 core CPU in the AMD build is more future proof than a pentium / i3 build, but the lga1150 socket in the pentium / i3 build is more future proof than AM3+. I hope that makes sense.


^this.

And when all 6 threads/cores of the FX 6300 are finally being used in games (not just bf4) upgrading to an 8 core can make a considerable difference. Just as of now going from 6 to 8 core (AMD) makes little difference because few games use more than 6 threads at all, but again many expect this to change.
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July 25, 2014 6:09:54 AM

Gabe Sandstrom said:
Thank you. I think the amd is the route I'll take then. Any ideas on what budget monitor and keyboard and mouse I should go with? Also is a Microsoft Xbox wired controller really a good tool to use also? I've heard a lot of good things and bad things about it. Please let me know your thoughts and what things I should add to this budget build. Also another question should I get Windows 8 or stream os? What's the pros and cons on that stuff also


Im a Windows man myself but i hate windows 8. only good thing it has going for it is it can be transferred from motherboard to motherboard. if you ever build a new rig (intel for example) and you want to re use your copy of windows, you CAN with windows 8 but you CANT with windows 7. otherwise i say windows 7 all the way. also i love the Xbox 360 controller, i use a black official controller and its great.
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July 25, 2014 6:16:17 AM

Beezy said:
Gabe Sandstrom said:
Thank you. I think the amd is the route I'll take then. Any ideas on what budget monitor and keyboard and mouse I should go with? Also is a Microsoft Xbox wired controller really a good tool to use also? I've heard a lot of good things and bad things about it. Please let me know your thoughts and what things I should add to this budget build. Also another question should I get Windows 8 or stream os? What's the pros and cons on that stuff also


Im a Windows man myself but i hate windows 8. only good thing it has going for it is it can be transferred from motherboard to motherboard. if you ever build a new rig (intel for example) and you want to re use your copy of windows, you CAN with windows 8 but you CANT with windows 7. otherwise i say windows 7 all the way. also i love the Xbox 360 controller, i use a black official controller and its great.


I also prefer windows 7 but I don't mind windows 8. I use 7 in work and 8.1 at home, both are fine.

If my computer illiterate wife can use windows 8 then anyone can :) 
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July 25, 2014 6:22:49 AM

LucoTF said:
Beezy said:
Gabe Sandstrom said:
Thank you. I think the amd is the route I'll take then. Any ideas on what budget monitor and keyboard and mouse I should go with? Also is a Microsoft Xbox wired controller really a good tool to use also? I've heard a lot of good things and bad things about it. Please let me know your thoughts and what things I should add to this budget build. Also another question should I get Windows 8 or stream os? What's the pros and cons on that stuff also


Im a Windows man myself but i hate windows 8. only good thing it has going for it is it can be transferred from motherboard to motherboard. if you ever build a new rig (intel for example) and you want to re use your copy of windows, you CAN with windows 8 but you CANT with windows 7. otherwise i say windows 7 all the way. also i love the Xbox 360 controller, i use a black official controller and its great.


I also prefer windows 7 but I don't mind windows 8. I use 7 in work and 8.1 at home, both are fine.

If my computer illiterate wife can use windows 8 then anyone can :) 


i know under the hood windows 8 has its game together, much smoother an OS but the user interface is just too much for me to bear lol. From its launch i couldnt help but feel its an obvious laptop/tablet solution forced onto desktops :/ 
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July 25, 2014 6:31:08 AM

Beezy said:
i know under the hood windows 8 has its game together, much smoother an OS but the user interface is just too much for me to bear lol. From its launch i couldnt help but feel its an obvious laptop/tablet solution forced onto desktops :/ 


Yeah my 8.1 boots straight to desktop, I only ever see the metro interface these days if I misclick :D 
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July 25, 2014 5:01:49 PM

I wouldn't get any of those amd builds.....the 970 boards mentioned here are the crappy low phase ones.....if you actually want to Overclock the 6300 well or go up to 8 core some day you will want an 8+2 phase board etc.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Luco made a build with an 8320 on a 4+1 phase board hahaha, that seriously would run like crap if at all...would probably throttle all to hell and back haha
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