What is the best graphics card in a 200€ budget available with my other pc's components listed below?

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

Alrighty so, the title says it all, i need a new graphics card. my old one (HD5770) just isnt good anymore and i want to change it now.. but i don't know what card to buy... Id prefer a 200€ budget but it could raise to 250€ if it has a good reason. Heres a list of my other pc's components, maybe that can help with something :s

processor: Intel i7-4770 @3.40GHz
motherboard: B85M-E
powersuply: Antec atc12v v2.3/500 watt/80mm fan
Ram: 8GB

any suggestions? (my prefered brand is Nvidia but I have no clue what brand is better..)

Id really appreciate if i could get some help with this

money isnt easy to come by anymore xd

The Builder · Jul 24, 2014

Can you list the exact model for that Antec PSU for me? Also, where do you live or where will you be purchasing this GPU?

SlayZombi · Jul 24, 2014

Nvidia is not better then AMD Radeon, just a bit pricier... Here's a good card that plays all new games out there on AT LEAST high settings. I play Thief on max settings at 1920 by 1080 on my rig. It's $130 so you're gonna have to convert that.. Here's the link.

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Version-PCI-Express-Graphics-11222-06-20G/dp/B00HJOKCZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406215442&sr=8-1&keywords=radeon+r7+260x

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

all it says here is Antex ATX12V V2.3 with an 80mm fan and 500 watt, il add 2 pictures if im missing some vital information thats on the box

SlayZombi · Jul 24, 2014

500 watts? You may have to upgrade that too for a better graphics card.

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

yeah i know :/ and again, no clue what to take xd im an absolute tool at this

The Builder · Jul 24, 2014

djegets :

See if it's the Antec EarthWatts EA-500D.

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

The Builder :

seems to be the same one yeah...

stokes1790 · Jul 24, 2014

You are currently constrained in upgrade potential by your PSU more so than your budget. With that budget (its like $270 US right, I used google) you are looking at the AMD 280 (~$250 US) or 280x (~$300US). You possibly want to upgrade your PSU to run either of those cards though. It depends on the quality of that 500w unit. What is the 12v Amperage (12vA) for the PSU?

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

stokes1790 :

No idea, but everyone seems to be telling me to upgrade that too so.. i will upgrade that too xd

SlayZombi · Jul 24, 2014

Ok, if you want to really upgrade your pc for CHEAP, get these two parts to start with...

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-Modular-Bronze-ATX12V/dp/B00ALK3KEM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406216648&sr=8-1&keywords=750+watt+corsair

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Version-PCI-Express-Graphics-11222-06-20G/dp/B00HJOKCZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406216671&sr=8-1&keywords=r7+260x

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

SlayZombi :

Well, now that im upgrading two things, il spend a good ammount of money so isnt a R9 270x a better option?

stokes1790 · Jul 24, 2014

djegets :

Well you could check and calculate if the PSU can handle the new card.... That would cost you $0 to check, and I just told you the number to look at. Just look at the PSU. If it is a high quality PSU, 500w is fine to run the 280 or 280x. If you want to get a less expensive card (and less power hungry), I would bet that PSU is just fine, as long as its not complete junk.

Everyone is asking for more information on your PSU, we aren't all saying to buy a new one immediately.

LookItsRain · Jul 24, 2014

You can run a r9 270x on your 500 watt psu, antec is a high quality psu manufactuer, watt rating does not mean everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWThqgFfI4

SlayZombi · Jul 24, 2014

LookItsRain :

But look,you want a good overhead of at LEAST 100 watts so you can get a good amount of overclock potential or just a general safety net. A new 750 watt is the way to go for upgrades.

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

stokes1790 :

djegets :

Well you could check and calculate if the PSU can handle the new card.... That would cost you $0 to check, and I just told you the number to look at. Just look at the PSU. If it is a high quality PSU, 500w is fine to run the 280 or 280x. If you want to get a less expensive card (and less power hungry), I would bet that PSU is just fine, as long as its not complete junk.

Everyone is asking for more information on your PSU, we aren't all saying to buy a new one immediately.

i don't know what more information to look for so i put three pictures up from the box with everything on it :s
http://postimg.org/image/c8wzeqezz/
http://postimg.org/image/7yibj59wv/
http://postimg.org/image/o1oczpqb3/3d6225ec/

stokes1790 · Jul 24, 2014

SlayZombi :

12v rail amperage is the specification that actually matters here. I could show you a good 500w PSU that actually has higher output than a junk 750w unit. You are misleading the clearly novice OP by just saying a higher wattage will unlock upgrade potential. You could actually be steering him into a bad purchase.

stokes1790 · Jul 24, 2014

djegets :

See where it says 12v and then has a 22A below it. That is the number you want to look at. That is a bit low for a 500w supply honestly (which is why Wattage is not useful) to run the 280/280x you want probably 35A on the 12v to be safe. If you go for the 270/270x I think 30A would be fine.

Short answer, you probably need a new PSU to buy a better gpu unfortunately, particularly with the i7 that draws a bit more power.
Edit: you can also see that the 12v rail output of your psu is actually only 440w. The 500w is basically marketing lies that include non relevant rails. Again, that is why wattage doesn't matter, if you actually had 500w on the 12v rail you would be much closer to the 30/35A that I recommended. Just trying to educate a new builder!

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

stokes1790 :

SlayZombi :

12v rail amperage is the specification that actually matters here. I could show you a good 500w PSU that actually has higher output than a junk 750w unit. You are misleading the clearly novice OP by just saying a higher wattage will unlock upgrade potential. You could actually be steering him into a bad purchase.

now im just confused as hell here

so whats your advice if you know all my pc's specs..

SlayZombi · Jul 24, 2014

stokes1790 :

SlayZombi :

12v rail amperage is the specification that actually matters here. I could show you a good 500w PSU that actually has higher output than a junk 750w unit. You are misleading the clearly novice OP by just saying a higher wattage will unlock upgrade potential. You could actually be steering him into a bad purchase.

Bad purchase? I think not, I specifically gave him a good psu. 85% efficiancy, which is industry standard and 62 amps on the 12+ volt single rail.

djegets · Jul 24, 2014

stokes1790 :

djegets :

See where it says 12v and then has a 22A below it. That is the number you want to look at. That is a bit low for a 500w supply honestly (which is why Wattage is not useful) to run the 280/280x you want probably 35A on the 12v to be safe. If you go for the 270/270x I think 30A would be fine.

Short answer, you probably need a new PSU to buy a better gpu unfortunately, particularly with the i7 that draws a bit more power.

I want to buy a PSU that i won't have to change for whenever i want a new upgrade so, do you think this would be good enough: http://www.tones.be/producten/grafische-kaarten ?

stokes1790 · Jul 24, 2014

SlayZombi :

The CX model PSU is specifically a model I shy away from recommending and that is the model you recommended. It has an average reputation at best (newer models are better though). Either way the spirit of my comment holds- don't just give recommendations based on wattage, explain that 12v Amperage actual is the number that matters, and steer people away from average/low quality PSUs, like the CX model.

Here is a reference list of the general quality of most popular PSUs (I don't like recommending anything below tier 2, and strongly suggest an upgrade if you have tier 4 or lower) http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-supply-unit-tier-list.html

LookItsRain · Jul 24, 2014

That antec is a double rail design so you have to double that 22amp rating, but thats still not strong enough plus corsair is not a good brand of psu until you get into the higher up ones. https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx

SlayZombi · Jul 24, 2014

Ok, simply enough, buy this. Trust me on it. It's a well-known and respected brand, while 750 watts is very good and it has 62 amps on the single 12+ volt rail. This will last you for years to come, and for cheap.

http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Bronze-Certified/dp/B008RJZQSW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1406218370&sr=8-2&keywords=corsair+750+watt

stokes1790 · Jul 24, 2014

LookItsRain :

I thought that 22 was insanely low, thanks for pointing that out.

To the OP, I like the corsair HX series (to stick with the brand mentioned). This model should easily support your rig with any future GPU upgrade (as long as you stay single card) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012&cm_re=corsair-_-17-139-012-_-Product

That PSU plus a 270x will put you a bit over budget though I believe.

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