What is the best graphics card in a 200€ budget available with my other pc's components listed below?
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djegets
July 24, 2014 8:19:31 AM
Alrighty so, the title says it all, i need a new graphics card. my old one (HD5770) just isnt good anymore and i want to change it now.. but i don't know what card to buy... Id prefer a 200€ budget but it could raise to 250€ if it has a good reason. Heres a list of my other pc's components, maybe that can help with something :s
processor: Intel i7-4770 @3.40GHz
motherboard: B85M-E
powersuply: Antec atc12v v2.3/500 watt/80mm fan
Ram: 8GB
any suggestions? (my prefered brand is Nvidia but I have no clue what brand is better..)
Id really appreciate if i could get some help with this
money isnt easy to come by anymore xd
processor: Intel i7-4770 @3.40GHz
motherboard: B85M-E
powersuply: Antec atc12v v2.3/500 watt/80mm fan
Ram: 8GB
any suggestions? (my prefered brand is Nvidia but I have no clue what brand is better..)
Id really appreciate if i could get some help with this
money isnt easy to come by anymore xd More about : graphics card 200 budget components listed
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The Builder
July 24, 2014 8:21:31 AM
Nvidia is not better then AMD Radeon, just a bit pricier... Here's a good card that plays all new games out there on AT LEAST high settings. I play Thief on max settings at 1920 by 1080 on my rig. It's $130 so you're gonna have to convert that.. Here's the link.
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Version-PCI-Express-Grap...
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Version-PCI-Express-Grap...
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djegets
July 24, 2014 8:29:36 AM
djegets
July 24, 2014 8:36:12 AM
The Builder
July 24, 2014 8:37:49 AM
djegets said:
all it says here is Antex ATX12V V2.3 with an 80mm fan and 500 watt, il add 2 pictures if im missing some vital information thats on the boxSee if it's the Antec EarthWatts EA-500D.
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djegets
July 24, 2014 8:41:32 AM
The Builder said:
djegets said:
all it says here is Antex ATX12V V2.3 with an 80mm fan and 500 watt, il add 2 pictures if im missing some vital information thats on the boxSee if it's the Antec EarthWatts EA-500D.
seems to be the same one yeah...
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stokes1790
July 24, 2014 8:41:50 AM
You are currently constrained in upgrade potential by your PSU more so than your budget. With that budget (its like $270 US right, I used google) you are looking at the AMD 280 (~$250 US) or 280x (~$300US). You possibly want to upgrade your PSU to run either of those cards though. It depends on the quality of that 500w unit. What is the 12v Amperage (12vA) for the PSU?
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djegets
July 24, 2014 8:43:51 AM
stokes1790 said:
You are currently constrained in upgrade potential by your PSU more so than your budget. With that budget (its like $270 US right, I used google) you are looking at the AMD 280 (~$250 US) or 280x (~$300US). You possibly want to upgrade your PSU to run either of those cards though. It depends on the quality of that 500w unit. What is the 12v Amperage (12vA) for the PSU? No idea, but everyone seems to be telling me to upgrade that too so.. i will upgrade that too xd
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Ok, if you want to really upgrade your pc for CHEAP, get these two parts to start with...
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-Modular-Bronze-ATX...
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Version-PCI-Express-Grap...
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-Modular-Bronze-ATX...
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Version-PCI-Express-Grap...
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djegets
July 24, 2014 8:47:56 AM
SlayZombi said:
Ok, if you want to really upgrade your pc for CHEAP, get these two parts to start with...http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series-Modular-Bronze-ATX...
http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-Version-PCI-Express-Grap...
Well, now that im upgrading two things, il spend a good ammount of money so isnt a R9 270x a better option?
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stokes1790
July 24, 2014 8:53:12 AM
djegets said:
stokes1790 said:
You are currently constrained in upgrade potential by your PSU more so than your budget. With that budget (its like $270 US right, I used google) you are looking at the AMD 280 (~$250 US) or 280x (~$300US). You possibly want to upgrade your PSU to run either of those cards though. It depends on the quality of that 500w unit. What is the 12v Amperage (12vA) for the PSU? No idea, but everyone seems to be telling me to upgrade that too so.. i will upgrade that too xd
Well you could check and calculate if the PSU can handle the new card.... That would cost you $0 to check, and I just told you the number to look at. Just look at the PSU. If it is a high quality PSU, 500w is fine to run the 280 or 280x. If you want to get a less expensive card (and less power hungry), I would bet that PSU is just fine, as long as its not complete junk.
Everyone is asking for more information on your PSU, we aren't all saying to buy a new one immediately.
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LookItsRain
July 24, 2014 8:56:37 AM
You can run a r9 270x on your 500 watt psu, antec is a high quality psu manufactuer, watt rating does not mean everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWThqgFfI4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWThqgFfI4
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LookItsRain said:
You can run a r9 270x on your 500 watt psu, antec is a high quality psu manufactuer, watt rating does not mean everything.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWThqgFfI4
But look,you want a good overhead of at LEAST 100 watts so you can get a good amount of overclock potential or just a general safety net. A new 750 watt is the way to go for upgrades.
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djegets
July 24, 2014 9:01:08 AM
stokes1790 said:
djegets said:
stokes1790 said:
You are currently constrained in upgrade potential by your PSU more so than your budget. With that budget (its like $270 US right, I used google) you are looking at the AMD 280 (~$250 US) or 280x (~$300US). You possibly want to upgrade your PSU to run either of those cards though. It depends on the quality of that 500w unit. What is the 12v Amperage (12vA) for the PSU? No idea, but everyone seems to be telling me to upgrade that too so.. i will upgrade that too xd
Well you could check and calculate if the PSU can handle the new card.... That would cost you $0 to check, and I just told you the number to look at. Just look at the PSU. If it is a high quality PSU, 500w is fine to run the 280 or 280x. If you want to get a less expensive card (and less power hungry), I would bet that PSU is just fine, as long as its not complete junk.
Everyone is asking for more information on your PSU, we aren't all saying to buy a new one immediately.
i don't know what more information to look for so i put three pictures up from the box with everything on it :s
http://postimg.org/image/c8wzeqezz/
http://postimg.org/image/7yibj59wv/
http://postimg.org/image/o1oczpqb3/3d6225ec/
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stokes1790
July 24, 2014 9:03:01 AM
SlayZombi said:
LookItsRain said:
You can run a r9 270x on your 500 watt psu, antec is a high quality psu manufactuer, watt rating does not mean everything.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWThqgFfI4
But look,you want a good overhead of at LEAST 100 watts so you can get a good amount of overclock potential or just a general safety net. A new 750 watt is the way to go for upgrades.
12v rail amperage is the specification that actually matters here. I could show you a good 500w PSU that actually has higher output than a junk 750w unit. You are misleading the clearly novice OP by just saying a higher wattage will unlock upgrade potential. You could actually be steering him into a bad purchase.
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stokes1790
July 24, 2014 9:06:08 AM
djegets said:
stokes1790 said:
djegets said:
stokes1790 said:
You are currently constrained in upgrade potential by your PSU more so than your budget. With that budget (its like $270 US right, I used google) you are looking at the AMD 280 (~$250 US) or 280x (~$300US). You possibly want to upgrade your PSU to run either of those cards though. It depends on the quality of that 500w unit. What is the 12v Amperage (12vA) for the PSU? No idea, but everyone seems to be telling me to upgrade that too so.. i will upgrade that too xd
Well you could check and calculate if the PSU can handle the new card.... That would cost you $0 to check, and I just told you the number to look at. Just look at the PSU. If it is a high quality PSU, 500w is fine to run the 280 or 280x. If you want to get a less expensive card (and less power hungry), I would bet that PSU is just fine, as long as its not complete junk.
Everyone is asking for more information on your PSU, we aren't all saying to buy a new one immediately.
i don't know what more information to look for so i put three pictures up from the box with everything on it :s
http://postimg.org/image/c8wzeqezz/
http://postimg.org/image/7yibj59wv/
http://postimg.org/image/o1oczpqb3/3d6225ec/
See where it says 12v and then has a 22A below it. That is the number you want to look at. That is a bit low for a 500w supply honestly (which is why Wattage is not useful) to run the 280/280x you want probably 35A on the 12v to be safe. If you go for the 270/270x I think 30A would be fine.
Short answer, you probably need a new PSU to buy a better gpu unfortunately, particularly with the i7 that draws a bit more power.
Edit: you can also see that the 12v rail output of your psu is actually only 440w. The 500w is basically marketing lies that include non relevant rails. Again, that is why wattage doesn't matter, if you actually had 500w on the 12v rail you would be much closer to the 30/35A that I recommended. Just trying to educate a new builder!
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djegets
July 24, 2014 9:06:14 AM
stokes1790 said:
SlayZombi said:
LookItsRain said:
You can run a r9 270x on your 500 watt psu, antec is a high quality psu manufactuer, watt rating does not mean everything.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWThqgFfI4
But look,you want a good overhead of at LEAST 100 watts so you can get a good amount of overclock potential or just a general safety net. A new 750 watt is the way to go for upgrades.
12v rail amperage is the specification that actually matters here. I could show you a good 500w PSU that actually has higher output than a junk 750w unit. You are misleading the clearly novice OP by just saying a higher wattage will unlock upgrade potential. You could actually be steering him into a bad purchase.
now im just confused as hell here O.o so whats your advice if you know all my pc's specs..
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stokes1790 said:
SlayZombi said:
LookItsRain said:
You can run a r9 270x on your 500 watt psu, antec is a high quality psu manufactuer, watt rating does not mean everything.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWThqgFfI4
But look,you want a good overhead of at LEAST 100 watts so you can get a good amount of overclock potential or just a general safety net. A new 750 watt is the way to go for upgrades.
12v rail amperage is the specification that actually matters here. I could show you a good 500w PSU that actually has higher output than a junk 750w unit. You are misleading the clearly novice OP by just saying a higher wattage will unlock upgrade potential. You could actually be steering him into a bad purchase.
Bad purchase? I think not, I specifically gave him a good psu. 85% efficiancy, which is industry standard and 62 amps on the 12+ volt single rail.
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djegets
July 24, 2014 9:07:48 AM
stokes1790 said:
djegets said:
stokes1790 said:
djegets said:
stokes1790 said:
You are currently constrained in upgrade potential by your PSU more so than your budget. With that budget (its like $270 US right, I used google) you are looking at the AMD 280 (~$250 US) or 280x (~$300US). You possibly want to upgrade your PSU to run either of those cards though. It depends on the quality of that 500w unit. What is the 12v Amperage (12vA) for the PSU? No idea, but everyone seems to be telling me to upgrade that too so.. i will upgrade that too xd
Well you could check and calculate if the PSU can handle the new card.... That would cost you $0 to check, and I just told you the number to look at. Just look at the PSU. If it is a high quality PSU, 500w is fine to run the 280 or 280x. If you want to get a less expensive card (and less power hungry), I would bet that PSU is just fine, as long as its not complete junk.
Everyone is asking for more information on your PSU, we aren't all saying to buy a new one immediately.
i don't know what more information to look for so i put three pictures up from the box with everything on it :s
http://postimg.org/image/c8wzeqezz/
http://postimg.org/image/7yibj59wv/
http://postimg.org/image/o1oczpqb3/3d6225ec/
See where it says 12v and then has a 22A below it. That is the number you want to look at. That is a bit low for a 500w supply honestly (which is why Wattage is not useful) to run the 280/280x you want probably 35A on the 12v to be safe. If you go for the 270/270x I think 30A would be fine.
Short answer, you probably need a new PSU to buy a better gpu unfortunately, particularly with the i7 that draws a bit more power.
I want to buy a PSU that i won't have to change for whenever i want a new upgrade so, do you think this would be good enough: http://www.tones.be/producten/grafische-kaarten ?
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stokes1790
July 24, 2014 9:11:04 AM
SlayZombi said:
stokes1790 said:
SlayZombi said:
LookItsRain said:
You can run a r9 270x on your 500 watt psu, antec is a high quality psu manufactuer, watt rating does not mean everything.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiWThqgFfI4
But look,you want a good overhead of at LEAST 100 watts so you can get a good amount of overclock potential or just a general safety net. A new 750 watt is the way to go for upgrades.
12v rail amperage is the specification that actually matters here. I could show you a good 500w PSU that actually has higher output than a junk 750w unit. You are misleading the clearly novice OP by just saying a higher wattage will unlock upgrade potential. You could actually be steering him into a bad purchase.
Bad purchase? I think not, I specifically gave him a good psu. 85% efficiancy, which is industry standard and 62 amps on the 12+ volt single rail.
The CX model PSU is specifically a model I shy away from recommending and that is the model you recommended. It has an average reputation at best (newer models are better though). Either way the spirit of my comment holds- don't just give recommendations based on wattage, explain that 12v Amperage actual is the number that matters, and steer people away from average/low quality PSUs, like the CX model.
Here is a reference list of the general quality of most popular PSUs (I don't like recommending anything below tier 2, and strongly suggest an upgrade if you have tier 4 or lower) http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1804779/power-su...
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LookItsRain
July 24, 2014 9:12:24 AM
That antec is a double rail design so you have to double that 22amp rating, but thats still not strong enough plus corsair is not a good brand of psu until you get into the higher up ones. https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware...
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Ok, simply enough, buy this. Trust me on it. It's a well-known and respected brand, while 750 watts is very good and it has 62 amps on the single 12+ volt rail. This will last you for years to come, and for cheap.
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Bronze-Cer...
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Bronze-Cer...
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stokes1790
July 24, 2014 9:18:04 AM
LookItsRain said:
That antec is a double rail design so you have to double that 22amp rating, but thats still not strong enough plus corsair is not a good brand of psu until you get into the higher up ones. https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware...I thought that 22 was insanely low, thanks for pointing that out.
To the OP, I like the corsair HX series (to stick with the brand mentioned). This model should easily support your rig with any future GPU upgrade (as long as you stay single card) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
That PSU plus a 270x will put you a bit over budget though I believe.
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July 24, 2014 9:19:46 AM
SlayZombi said:
Ok, simply enough, buy this. Trust me on it. It's a well-known and respected brand, while 750 watts is very good and it has 62 amps on the single 12+ volt rail. This will last you for years to come, and for cheap.http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Bronze-Cer...
Why are you continuing to suggest an item that two other posters have suggested against, both of us providing tier charts indicating the product you suggested is of fair/average quality at best. I don't understand. Do you have a personal stake in the success of the CX line?
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stokes1790 said:
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Ok, simply enough, buy this. Trust me on it. It's a well-known and respected brand, while 750 watts is very good and it has 62 amps on the single 12+ volt rail. This will last you for years to come, and for cheap.http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Bronze-Cer...
Why are you continuing to suggest an item that two other posters have suggested against, both of us providing tier charts indicating the product you suggested is of fair/average quality at best. I don't understand. Do you have a personal stake in the success of the CX line?
Do you seriously believe ONE source from most likely biased results? Look at reviews, look at real experience. Not theoretical specs from some expert review.
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LookItsRain
July 24, 2014 9:35:38 AM
LookItsRain
July 24, 2014 9:40:37 AM
stokes1790
July 24, 2014 9:47:14 AM
LookItsRain said:
SlayZombi said:
LookItsRain said:
I watched my friends builder series 600 watt explode after playing fallout 3 for 45 mins. Is that good enough?X-D seriously?
Yup, ruined the whole computer.
CX series is not a quality unit. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence in agreement with that. Why would the list be biased against only certain model lines? There are tier 1 and tier 2 quality Corsair units, such as the HX series model I recommended. That doesn't make any sense if it was biased against a particular company. Its biased against cheap low quality units that employ cost cutting measures to remain cheap. That is absolutely not what you want in PSU, you want a quality unit that you can trust your entire system on.
I don't understand why you are being so defensive.
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July 24, 2014 9:48:05 AM
djegets
July 24, 2014 10:43:53 AM
stokes1790 said:
SlayZombi said:
Ok, simply enough, buy this. Trust me on it. It's a well-known and respected brand, while 750 watts is very good and it has 62 amps on the single 12+ volt rail. This will last you for years to come, and for cheap.http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Builder-Series-Bronze-Cer...
Why are you continuing to suggest an item that two other posters have suggested against, both of us providing tier charts indicating the product you suggested is of fair/average quality at best. I don't understand. Do you have a personal stake in the success of the CX line?
stokes1790 said:
LookItsRain said:
SlayZombi said:
LookItsRain said:
I watched my friends builder series 600 watt explode after playing fallout 3 for 45 mins. Is that good enough?X-D seriously?
Yup, ruined the whole computer.
CX series is not a quality unit. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence in agreement with that. Why would the list be biased against only certain model lines? There are tier 1 and tier 2 quality Corsair units, such as the HX series model I recommended. That doesn't make any sense if it was biased against a particular company. Its biased against cheap low quality units that employ cost cutting measures to remain cheap. That is absolutely not what you want in PSU, you want a quality unit that you can trust your entire system on.
I don't understand why you are being so defensive.
alright so, ive looked at some stuff thats available to me in an actual store (prefer it for the warranty and such) and ive come to these two parts, but as you're an expert you might suggest sth better.
GPU: MSI N760 TF 2GD5/OC GTX760 GAMING TWIN FROZR IV NVIDIA GEFORCE PCI EXPRESS GAMING CARD FULL HD GRAPHICS
PSU: CORSAIR RM750 RM SERIES CP-9020055-EU
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stokes1790 said:
LookItsRain said:
SlayZombi said:
LookItsRain said:
I watched my friends builder series 600 watt explode after playing fallout 3 for 45 mins. Is that good enough?X-D seriously?
Yup, ruined the whole computer.
CX series is not a quality unit. There is plenty of anecdotal evidence in agreement with that. Why would the list be biased against only certain model lines? There are tier 1 and tier 2 quality Corsair units, such as the HX series model I recommended. That doesn't make any sense if it was biased against a particular company. Its biased against cheap low quality units that employ cost cutting measures to remain cheap. That is absolutely not what you want in PSU, you want a quality unit that you can trust your entire system on.
I don't understand why you are being so defensive.
Good point, mayube I was being pretty rash and rude... I'm in the middle of upgrading mine from a Thermaltake Toughpower 750 watt. Not even in the acceptable tier... :-( It came from an old PC and i'm very price constricted. I thought the CX series was good, considering the 900+ reviews of 4 and 5 star. Maybe they were all brainless Minecraft addicts.... Anyways my original PSU I wanted before,the cX series was this one... I heard it was made with Seasonic parts so it's most likely a good fit.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B88Z314/ref=s9_psim...
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