Water Cooling Loop Help

Darth Rache

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Ok guys I finally got around to working on my custom loop, this is the first time building one, so any help will be appreciated. Here is what i have so far.>>> what else do yall think that i will need?



XSPC Raystorm AX360 Extreme Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit w/ D5 Photon and Free Dead-Water!

Sleeve My Kit: Yes ($24.99)
Select Your Cable Sleeve Color: Green UV Reactive
Select Your Heatshrink Color: Green
Select Fluid for Kit: XSPC EC6 Coolant - 1L Clear ($15.99)
Select Distilled H20 Additives.: IandH KillCoils - Antimicrobial Silver ($6.99)
Select Tubing Color: XSPC FLX Retail 7/16 x 5/8 - UV Green ($15.49)
$328.45 $328.45


XSPC Razor GTX Titan / 780 / 780 Ti Full Coverage VGA Block V2 - Reference Design $124.99 $249.98
ex-tub-2543

XSPC G1/4" Thread 7/16" ID x 5/8" OD Low Profile Compression Fitting - Black Chrome V2 $5.99 $47.92
ex-blc-1137

XSPC Razor SLI High Flow Bridge (2 Slot) $11.99 $11.99
ex-rad-440

XSPC AX240 Dual 120mm Radiator w/ Aluminum Enclosure - Black $79.99 $79.99
 
Solution
Here is the answer that I have provided to anyone and everyone new to watercooling and is in the watercooling sticky:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/277130-29-read-first-watercooling-sticky

Understand what you need to buy before you just start asking complete strangers on web forums what you should be spending your own, hard earned money on. Understanding what you need helps you make informed decisions not only about what, but WHY you are doing so.

That being said, I would suggest learning as much as you can to help yourself out so you can seek advice for specifics based on what you understand your loop needs to be.

Also, there is more hostility in this thread than needs to be. I understand that there are different...

Darth Rache

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Extra tubing, ok.

I am using XSPC EC6 coolant, will 1L be enough? and I'm going to get a kill coil

Two rads YES lol one near the cpu in the loop and one near the two GPUs in the loop.

Can you think of anything else that i will need? Fittings ect.
 

zachparr2442

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how big are the rads and your going to need more colant at least get 2l just in case you need extra and you have to think about how your loop is going to be set up on how many 45 degree and 90degree fitting you will need you dont want to put to much of an angle on the compession fitting the tubing could slip out
 

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Top 360mm and a 240mm in the front. Where do i need to use 45° and 90° fittings?
 

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on my case i have two 90s on the rad connected to my fitting to not bend the tubing, i have 2 90s on my cpus for the same reason then a 90 on my sli waterblock then a 45 off that to the res. you want to bend your tuning to much you want it to be as straight as possible. so think about where you are goin go put your rads and res and everything and angle is the tubing going to be.
 

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360 on the top of the case, 240 in the front, and the res will be on the back side of the case beside the rear exhaust fan.

Here is the updated list so far


1039 XSPC RayStorm High Performance Acetal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Special Edition Copper (Intel) (Sockets LGA 115x / 1366 / 2011) $119.99 $119.99
ex-blc-1592 XSPC Razor GTX Titan / 780 / 780 Ti Full Coverage VGA Block V2 - Reference Design $124.99 $249.98
ex-liq-218 XSPC EC6 High Performance Liquid Cooling Premix Coolant - 1L - Clear $15.99 $31.98
ex-tub-2543 XSPC G1/4" Thread 7/16" ID x 5/8" OD Low Profile Compression Fitting - Black Chrome V2 $5.99 $47.92
ex-tub-1766 XSPC FLX Premium Grade PVC Tubing - 7/16" ID (5/8"OD) - 2 Meter (6.5 Feet) Retail Pack - UV Green $15.49 $15.49
ex-pmp-238 Alphacool VPP655 Variable Speed Pump - HF Top Edition - Acrylic $119.95 $119.95
ex-rad-440 XSPC AX240 Dual 120mm Radiator w/ Aluminum Enclosure - Black $79.99 $79.99
ex-rad-442 XSPC AX360 Triple 120mm Radiator w/ Aluminum Enclosure - Black $99.99 $99.99
ex-res-166 FrozenQ PC Mods 250mm Liquid Fusion V Series "2nd Generation" Reservoir - UV Cathode - Fluorescent Green Helix $99.99 $99.99
 

zachparr2442

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List everything that you are cooling. It isn't clear from the posts.

You seem to be cooling two graphics cards and a CPU. You seem to be running all of that into two radiators all on one pump.

If that is the case, it isn't going to work. The system will not have enough flow to effectively cool everything. You will need two pumps. One loop for the graphics cards and one for the CPU.
 
I would recommend reading this guide.

7. Planning a water-cooling Loop: What is one and how many do I want? From the Parts-Buying Guide Sticky:
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The most simple loop is a T-line > pump > water-block > radiator...and around and around. Two loops or a dual loop system needs 2 fill-lines or reservoirs, 2 pumps, 2 or more blocks, and 2 or more radiators. The primary reason for 2 separate loops is to force the GPU loop into running a higher water-air delta T than the CPU loop; perhaps 10°C to 20°C for the GPU loop versus 5°C to 10°C for the CPU loop. This can allow an internal 120.3 to cool an SLI or X-fire GPU loop while another internal 120.2 or 120.3 cools the CPU loop both at satisfactory temperatures. This requires careful planning but is getting easier as the industry trends toward cooler CPU processors. For example, second generation core i7 Sandy Bridge 2600k stock load Thermal Design Power or TDP is 95W compared to the first-generation core i7 920 at 130W. In Dual Loop versus Single by Gabriel Rouchon, the chief thermal architect at Swiftech, the data and explanation are detailed. And even when a water-cooler chooses a single loop, some get a second pump as backup for pump redundancy. If you run two pumps in series - inside one loop - one pump provides back-up in case the other fails. You don't need the Koolance reservoir system to run two or dual loops. If you are certain about running two loops the XSPC acrylic dual 5.25 inch reservoir for two Laing DDC OEM pumps is only $50. Bay reservoir pump/top combinations efficiently use case space.
To make a loop, use enough tubing to avoid kinks. 6 feet is usually enough for a medium-size loop inside a case. Shorter loops with smaller tubing avoid blocking air-flow inside the case. Stay above 3/8 inch internal diameter to avoid limiting water-flow but there is no advantage to tubing over 1/2 inch internal diameter. Anti-kink coils don't remove kinks but some like the looks. Zip-ties on a kink can push the kink further down the tubing until it reaches a fitting. It might allow one to wait until next scheduled maintenance to fix it.

Loop order matters. Choose a layout that puts the reservoir or T-line/fill-line immediately before the pump inlet to get the best filling. Pump filling is important to prevent the pump from running dry since the pump cools itself with water and a dry pump can equal a dead pump in a short time. Otherwise loop order is rarely important. The loop flow-rate is usually high enough in simple loops that water temperature varies by 1°C or less inside the entire loop. In high-performance loops, some record differences of several degrees. On EOCF, one water-cooler with a very high-performance system and 2 VGA cards in SLI tested the second VGA card 3°C to 5°C hotter than the first when in series but got equal temperatures with VGA cards in parallel. For most water-coolers, a few degrees rarely matters. Route tubing to avoid clutter and preserve air-flow. Avoid kinks to preserve water-flow. For complex loops, discuss it on your forum thread.


"The Beginning to Water-Cool Guide updated for 2014"
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/t355358.html
 

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are you watercooled and do you have two pumps and two loop. a single pump and loop is good enough to get the job done. if you looked the video he was cooling a CPU, two GPUs and Quad Radiator,Triple Radiator,Dual Radiator, and Single Radiator. with him only cooling a cpu two gpus and two rads he will be fine no need for extra pumps and loops i have a similair set up plus another rad and my flow is fine and its set to 3 which is medium setting
 

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as long as you have the flow and enough rad space to cool the water its fine, the water is moving fast through the waterblocks it doesnt matter what order you have them in as long as the res is above and before the pump
 

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That is what i thought too, i have seen alot more hardcore loops ran off of a D-5 pump than what i am planning.
 
as long as you have the flow and enough rad space to cool the water its fine, the water is moving fast through the waterblocks it doesnt matter what order you have them in as long as the res is above and before the pump

If the temperatures of your components do not matter, then why in the world are you spending all of this money on cooling them. That doesn't make any sense at all.

 

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What are you taking about water cooling works buy using an enclosed heatsink and water removes that heat then goes to a rad and it's cools the water moves fast though the system it doesn't matter what order you have them in as long as you have enough rad space and the pump is below and right after the res. Idk what your taking about with the temp stuff nobody mention that
 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7BdBPSx92M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR9jEczwCZ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghk-kWqUrpE watch this one for sure its the myths about watercooling and stuff about 14mins long

i spent hours on youtube before i started build my loop and my loop is fine im at 4.9ghz hottest i see on a stress test is 52c and in gaming its arpund 45c max my gpus never reach 35c thats the reason you watercool
 

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I have watched all of those already, thank you. My question is what fittings am i going to need for the setup that I'm looking to do.
 

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it all depends on how you run your loop and where your rads and everything is located think about where your gpus cpu and where your rads and res and pump will be then think about how can you get the tubing as straight as possible without bending it in my loop i have 12 compression fittings 7x90degree 6x45dgree 1xyfitting with bitpower drain on it, and i also have 2x25mm spacers male female
 

Darth Rache

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ahhhhhh Crap so just buy a shit load of fittings and send back what i dont use?