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I currently have a WD caviar green 1tb as my only hardrive with Windows, all my files, software (everything on it). I have purchased a Samsung 840 EVO 120GB Solid State Drive. I plan to have Windows running on the SSD along with my main programs.

What is the best way of setting this up? Install the SSD, unplug the HDD and reinstall windows over the top? When I plug my HDD back in will all my files still be there including my desktop arrangement?

Thanks in advance!
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    Install the SSD, unplug the HDD and reinstall windows over the top?

    Yes. Clean install on the SSD, with only the SSD connected.

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    When I plug my HDD back in will all my files still be there including my desktop arrangement?

    No.
    You will be booting from the brand new install on the SSD. It knows nothing about whatever lives in your previous install on the HDD. Your 'desktop' will be that of a brand new installation.
    ALL of your applications will need to be reinstalled again.

    Your 'files' (docs/music/movies/etc) still exist on the old drive, but they are now contained inside C/Users/OldGuy/...
    Rather than C/Users/NewGuy... (on the SSD)
  2. USAFRet said:
    Quote:
    Install the SSD, unplug the HDD and reinstall windows over the top?

    Yes. Clean install on the SSD, with only the SSD connected.

    Quote:
    When I plug my HDD back in will all my files still be there including my desktop arrangement?

    No.
    You will be booting from the brand new install on the SSD. It knows nothing about whatever lives in your previous install on the HDD. Your 'desktop' will be that of a brand new installation.
    ALL of your applications will need to be reinstalled again.

    Your 'files' (docs/music/movies/etc) still exist on the old drive, but they are now contained inside C/Users/OldGuy/...
    Rather than C/Users/NewGuy... (on the SSD)


    Can I still reinstall onto the HDD? Can files from the SSD still be shown on the desktop without putting the files onto the SSD?
  3. OCMAD said:


    Can I still reinstall onto the HDD? Can files from the SSD still be shown on the desktop without putting the files onto the SSD?


    The way it works is:
    SSD = OS and probably most of your applications. Maybe not games.
    HDD = all the other stuff that doesn't benefit from the SSD speed.

    2 drives, 2 drive letters.
    Applications and games can be installed on whichever drive you want. They will ALL show up in Start, or a desktop shortcut. After you install them.
    Windows does not care, but you must tell it where during the individual application install.

    Ideally (and this depends on what and how much stuff you have), you save all personal files somewhere else. External drive maybe.
    Collect all your application install files and disks. Along with whatever serial numbers are needed
    Connect only the SSD
    Install Windows to the SSD
    Install whatever drivers your hardware needs
    Let Windows do whatever updates it wants to
    Now we connect the HDD.
    Since you have all your personal stuff copied elsewhere and offline, wipe the old HDD
    Now we can start to install all your applications. Most on the SSD, some larger things (games) on the HDD.
    Copy your personal files from the external to wherever you want them.
  4. USAFRet said:
    OCMAD said:


    Can I still reinstall onto the HDD? Can files from the SSD still be shown on the desktop without putting the files onto the SSD?


    The way it works is:
    SSD = OS and probably most of your applications. Maybe not games.
    HDD = all the other stuff that doesn't benefit from the SSD speed.

    2 drives, 2 drive letters.
    Applications and games can be installed on whichever drive you want. They will ALL show up in Start, or a desktop shortcut. After you install them.
    Windows does not care, but you must tell it where during the individual application install.

    Ideally (and this depends on what and how much stuff you have), you save all personal files somewhere else. External drive maybe.
    Collect all your application install files and disks. Along with whatever serial numbers are needed
    Connect only the SSD
    Install Windows to the SSD
    Install whatever drivers your hardware needs
    Let Windows do whatever updates it wants to
    Now we connect the HDD.
    Since you have all your personal stuff copied elsewhere and offline, wipe the old HDD
    Now we can start to install all your applications. Most on the SSD, some larger things (games) on the HDD.
    Copy your personal files from the external to wherever you want them.


    Sorry I know very little; I am 14. Why do I need to wipe the old HDD, can't I just remove stuff from it that is now on the SSD?
  5. OCMAD said:


    Sorry I know very little; I am 14. Why do I need to wipe the old HDD, can't I just remove stuff from it that is now on the SSD?


    It's not required, but preferable. The old drive will also have the System Reserved (boot) partition. That doesn't go away with a simple 'delete'.
    Better to start with a known clean drive, rather that 'who knows what'...
  6. Sounds like a good plan. I will try this when my SSD arrives. What is the best way to format my old HDD?
  7. OCMAD said:
    Sounds like a good plan. I will try this when my SSD arrives. What is the best way to format my old HDD?


    Easiest is in Disk Management. Select each partition, delete. Then format the whole drive and give it a drive letter.
    Be absolutely sure you have anything you want off that drive.
  8. USAFRet said:
    OCMAD said:
    Sounds like a good plan. I will try this when my SSD arrives. What is the best way to format my old HDD?


    Easiest is in Disk Management. Select each partition, delete. Then format the whole drive and give it a drive letter.
    Be absolutely sure you have anything you want off that drive.


    How do you format the whole drive?
  9. OCMAD said:
    USAFRet said:
    OCMAD said:
    Sounds like a good plan. I will try this when my SSD arrives. What is the best way to format my old HDD?


    Easiest is in Disk Management. Select each partition, delete. Then format the whole drive and give it a drive letter.
    Be absolutely sure you have anything you want off that drive.


    How do you format the whole drive?


    While in Disk Management, right click, select Format.
    Be sure of what physical drive you are doing this to.
  10. Can I simply copy and paste the files from the HDD onto the external hard drive and then copy and paste them back onto the HDD once formatted?
  11. OCMAD said:
    Can I simply copy and paste the files from the HDD onto the external hard drive and then copy and paste them back onto the HDD once formatted?


    Your 'files', yes. .mp3, .jpg, .doc....
    Your applications, no. They need to be actually reinstalled.
  12. I'm struggling to format my hard drive... When I write click the drive I want to format the format button is dull and I cannot click it, this can be seen in the image here https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ifV2PSaK86RUJPMVhQRmlxY00/edit?usp=sharing

    The system Reserve however does allow me to format it but I am not sure if this is what I need to format.
  13. USAFRet said:
    OCMAD said:
    Can I simply copy and paste the files from the HDD onto the external hard drive and then copy and paste them back onto the HDD once formatted?


    Your 'files', yes. .mp3, .jpg, .doc....
    Your applications, no. They need to be actually reinstalled.


    I'm struggling to format my hard drive... When I write click the drive I want to format the format button is dull and I cannot click it, this can be seen in the image here https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ifV2PSaK86RUJPMVhQRm...

    The system Reserve however does allow me to format it but I am not sure if this is what I need to format.
  14. Wait, it's because my ssd is not installed yet! Will post how I get on.
  15. OCMAD said:
    Wait, it's because my ssd is not installed yet! Will post how I get on.


    Well, yes. You can't format the C drive from within the same running OS.
    You're asking Windows to kill itself.
  16. Ok, I have finished all of the steps including formatting the HDD. I have noticed though that the SSD has all of the pre-made folder, e.g. Downloads, Desktop, Favourites, My Music, My Documents, My Videos, etc. I want these folders to be stored on the HDD instead, what is the best way to transfer these folders?
  17. USAFRet said:
    OCMAD said:
    Wait, it's because my ssd is not installed yet! Will post how I get on.


    Well, yes. You can't format the C drive from within the same running OS.
    You're asking Windows to kill itself.


    Ok, I have finished all of the steps including formatting the HDD. I have noticed though that the SSD has all of the pre-made folder, e.g. Downloads, Desktop, Favourites, My Music, My Documents, My Videos, etc. I want these folders to be stored on the HDD instead, what is the best way to transfer these folders?
  18. OCMAD said:
    USAFRet said:
    OCMAD said:
    Wait, it's because my ssd is not installed yet! Will post how I get on.


    Well, yes. You can't format the C drive from within the same running OS.
    You're asking Windows to kill itself.


    Ok, I have finished all of the steps including formatting the HDD. I have noticed though that the SSD has all of the pre-made folder, e.g. Downloads, Desktop, Favourites, My Music, My Documents, My Videos, etc. I want these folders to be stored on the HDD instead, what is the best way to transfer these folders?


    See this:
    Win 7 & 8: http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-1834397/ssd-redirecting-static-files.html
    Win 8.1: http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2024314/windows-redirecting-folders-drives.html

    The Libraries can save to wherever you want. The above outlines how to do it.
  19. Thanks, worked well. This does not seem to work for the desktop... Any ideas?
  20. OCMAD said:
    Thanks, worked well. This does not seem to work for the desktop... Any ideas?


    What do you mean 'does not work for the desktop' ?
    The stuff on your 'desktop' lives in your 'User' space. Or for another user, in their User space.
    You can save/move that stuff elsewhere, and just make a shortcut.
  21. I solved the problem with another solution but thanks anyway.
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