3 Gaming Builds Please help me pick One
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 1:12:36 AM
So iam trying to build a new PC and i want it to last me like 5-6 years like this one and no i dont need to play games on ultra for all 6 years i kinda want it like this 1-2yrs ultra 3-4yrs high 5-6yrs medium i've made 3 different builds.
But if you guys come up with a better one or want to mix and match parts please do as long it doesn't go above 1200$. thanks for any help or advice.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/2yCFf7 #1
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/96H8TW #2
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/F2yqqs #3
But if you guys come up with a better one or want to mix and match parts please do as long it doesn't go above 1200$. thanks for any help or advice.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/2yCFf7 #1
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/96H8TW #2
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/F2yqqs #3
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Small Adjustment to your #1 Build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TopLuca/saved/g8VG3C
This should be the absolute bang for your buck.
This should be the absolute bang for your buck.
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Here's my suggestion:
It's similar to luca's build, but I just modified it to be a bit more balanced in my opinion.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($130.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1185.89
It's similar to luca's build, but I just modified it to be a bit more balanced in my opinion.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($130.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1185.89
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misfitkid86
July 27, 2014 1:25:46 AM
LordVex209
July 27, 2014 1:34:42 AM
misfitkid86 said:
i'd say the first one is by far the best, but do you really want a blue ray drive? you could save like $30 if you switch to a dvd, if you did that than i'd say improve the cooling to something like an h100i for better overclocking. other than that not bad at all!Hmm i guess i could do that i mean ill probably wont be using blu-rays anytime soon and im all for making my cpu run cooler
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 1:38:51 AM
TopLuca said:
Small Adjustment to your #1 Build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TopLuca/saved/g8VG3C This should be the absolute bang for your buck.
I see you gave me a crazy gpu to buy haha do i really need it? also lowered my psu, with that card i wont i need my 750W?
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LordVex209 said:
TopLuca said:
Small Adjustment to your #1 Build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TopLuca/saved/g8VG3C This should be the absolute bang for your buck.
I see you gave me a crazy gpu to buy haha do i really need it? also lowered my psu, with that card i wont i need my 750W?
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 1:41:08 AM
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Here's my suggestion:It's similar to luca's build, but I just modified it to be a bit more balanced in my opinion.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($130.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1185.89
Lowered the speed of the ram any thoughts on why?
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The performance difference between 1600 -> 2133 is marginal. Probably around 4-5fps. Unless you're running <30fps, there difference wouldn't really be noticed in most cases. Especially with the power of the rest of the system, you'd be able to run 30fps for years, sacrificing quality if need be.
If you want to go for the higher speed ram, it's not that much more expensive anyways. It might still be within your budget.
If you want to go for the higher speed ram, it's not that much more expensive anyways. It might still be within your budget.
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 1:56:24 AM
Calnin said:
The performance difference between 1600 -> 2133 is marginal. Probably around 4-5fps. Unless you're running <30fps, there difference wouldn't really be noticed in most cases. Especially with the power of the rest of the system, you'd be able to run 30fps for years, sacrificing quality if need be.If you want to go for the higher speed ram, it's not that much more expensive anyways. It might still be within your budget.
Yea ill probably will go for the 2133 and the price jump isn't that bad
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 1:59:56 AM
misfitkid86 said:
i'd say the first one is by far the best, but do you really want a blue ray drive? you could save like $30 if you switch to a dvd, if you did that than i'd say improve the cooling to something like an h100i for better overclocking. other than that not bad at all!would there be a major difference between the h80i to the h100i?
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 2:02:47 AM
TopLuca said:
LordVex209 said:
TopLuca said:
Small Adjustment to your #1 Build http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TopLuca/saved/g8VG3C This should be the absolute bang for your buck.
I see you gave me a crazy gpu to buy haha do i really need it? also lowered my psu, with that card i wont i need my 750W?
Ah ok ill use a 650W then but ill make it fully modular and Gold+ my nit picks nothing against that psu
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Surprise Surprise , The faster Frequency on the Ram isn't always better for gaming .
This video has a lot of surprises for you Lord and has an insight on why Calnin's choice of a lower Freq Ram is a good choice.
Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4
This video has a lot of surprises for you Lord and has an insight on why Calnin's choice of a lower Freq Ram is a good choice.
Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 2:10:36 AM
TopLuca said:
Surprise Surprise , The faster Frequency on the Ram isn't always better for gaming .This video has a lot of surprises for you Lord and has an insight on why Calnin's choice of a lower Freq Ram is a good choice.
Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4
So lower cas= better performance? so if i can find 2133 ram at an cas 9 i should be good right?
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LordVex209 said:
TopLuca said:
Surprise Surprise , The faster Frequency on the Ram isn't always better for gaming .This video has a lot of surprises for you Lord and has an insight on why Calnin's choice of a lower Freq Ram is a good choice.
Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4
So lower cas= better performance? so if i can find 2133 ram at an cas 9 i should be good right?
Not in all cases , you can still get a higher Freq Ram and underclock it . Its all down to your preference mate
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The g.skills from Luca's build are actually 2133Mhz cas9.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32133c9d8gx...
As for the ram speeds to cas latency, 1600 Cas9 is considered minimum for most things.
As speeds get higher, cas latency needs to get higher to be stable. 1866Mhz cas10 is roughly the same performance as 1600 Cas9. Cas 11 2133Mhz is roughly around the same as 1866Mhz cas10. With the speed going up, and the latency going up 1 notch at a time, the overall speed still declines. But performance differences aren't going to be that much different. With 2133 Cas9, it's more likely going to be equivalent to 1600 cas7 or so, but slightly slower. Performance is still faster, but it's still not going to be that much faster. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32133c9d8gx...
As for the ram speeds to cas latency, 1600 Cas9 is considered minimum for most things.
As speeds get higher, cas latency needs to get higher to be stable. 1866Mhz cas10 is roughly the same performance as 1600 Cas9. Cas 11 2133Mhz is roughly around the same as 1866Mhz cas10. With the speed going up, and the latency going up 1 notch at a time, the overall speed still declines. But performance differences aren't going to be that much different. With 2133 Cas9, it's more likely going to be equivalent to 1600 cas7 or so, but slightly slower. Performance is still faster, but it's still not going to be that much faster. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 2:19:47 AM
TopLuca said:
LordVex209 said:
TopLuca said:
Surprise Surprise , The faster Frequency on the Ram isn't always better for gaming .This video has a lot of surprises for you Lord and has an insight on why Calnin's choice of a lower Freq Ram is a good choice.
Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWgzA2C61z4
So lower cas= better performance? so if i can find 2133 ram at an cas 9 i should be good right?
Not in all cases , you can still get a higher Freq Ram and underclock it . Its all down to your preference mate
Hmm ok
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 2:22:52 AM
Ok so ive made some adjustments http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/2qvqqs how is everyone with this? changed evga 650w psu did some research on it didn't like what i saw, also went to Air cooled instead of Water.
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I believe the cm 212 evo would perform better than the h60. You should look around on that front, I'm not really entirely sure on that one. I personally also prefer air cooling over water. At the price of the h60, you could get the noctua NH-DH14 would performs very well. It's almost on level with some of the more expensive water coolers.
If you're going with a supernova nex psu, get the 750w one. Otherwise, go with a XFX 650w.
But to be honest, if you're going to overclock in the future, the build I suggested would do much better. If you're not going to be overclocking much, what you're looking at, plus the changes I'm suggesting with the cooler and power supply would be good enough.
If you're going with a supernova nex psu, get the 750w one. Otherwise, go with a XFX 650w.
But to be honest, if you're going to overclock in the future, the build I suggested would do much better. If you're not going to be overclocking much, what you're looking at, plus the changes I'm suggesting with the cooler and power supply would be good enough.
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LordVex209 said:
Ok so ive made some adjustments http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/MJLwrH how is everyone with this?Yeah thats great , pretty much similar to my build and Calnin's
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Calnin said:
I believe the cm 212 evo would perform better than the h60. You should look around on that front, I'm not really entirely sure on that one. I personally also prefer air cooling over water. At the price of the h60, you could get the noctua NH-DH14 would performs very well. It's almost on level with some of the more expensive water coolers.If you're going with a supernova nex psu, get the 750w one. Otherwise, go with a XFX 650w.
Thats a gold Certified one , That should be very sufficient
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 2:39:59 AM
Calnin said:
I believe the cm 212 evo would perform better than the h60. You should look around on that front, I'm not really entirely sure on that one. I personally also prefer air cooling over water. At the price of the h60, you could get the noctua NH-DH14 would performs very well. It's almost on level with some of the more expensive water coolers.If you're going with a supernova nex psu, get the 750w one. Otherwise, go with a XFX 650w.
But to be honest, if you're going to overclock in the future, the build I suggested would do much better. If you're not going to be overclocking much, what you're looking at, plus the changes I'm suggesting with the cooler and power supply would be good enough.
Maybe some mild OCing but nothing to crazy, you know what i think i will go for the Noctua but a couple of questions would it fit in the case i picked and can i change the fans on it?
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LordVex209
July 27, 2014 2:57:47 AM
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LordVex209
July 29, 2014 2:02:48 AM
is this 200$ upgrade worth it? http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/MWgQzy from http://pcpartpicker.com/user/LordVex/saved/2qvqqs ?
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LordVex209
July 29, 2014 2:27:07 AM
As of right now, the i5 wouldn't bottleneck any graphics card in the market. Even when games become more CPU intensive and require more processing power, you have the ability to overclock your CPU which would help get rid of possible bottlenecks.
It really depends on what you're going to be playing and what not, it's hard to predict how long it'll take before more than 4 cores would be fully utilized.
If you want to go with it, sure, if you have the extra money lying around. As for the i5 vs i7, I still stand by the i5 being better in gaming compared to the i7. Even more recent games don't really have a huge difference.
It really depends on what you're going to be playing and what not, it's hard to predict how long it'll take before more than 4 cores would be fully utilized.
If you want to go with it, sure, if you have the extra money lying around. As for the i5 vs i7, I still stand by the i5 being better in gaming compared to the i7. Even more recent games don't really have a huge difference.
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LordVex209
July 29, 2014 2:59:06 AM
Calnin said:
As of right now, the i5 wouldn't bottleneck any graphics card in the market. Even when games become more CPU intensive and require more processing power, you have the ability to overclock your CPU which would help get rid of possible bottlenecks.It really depends on what you're going to be playing and what not, it's hard to predict how long it'll take before more than 4 cores would be fully utilized.
If you want to go with it, sure, if you have the extra money lying around. As for the i5 vs i7, I still stand by the i5 being better in gaming compared to the i7. Even more recent games don't really have a huge difference.
Hmm ok then ill probably keep the I5-4690k and then upgrade the Tri-x to the Vapor-X and upgrade my Psu and Mobo cause now i plan to CF another 290 in two years is this good?
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