Best gaming computer for $900 or less

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I'm looking for a gaming computer to run games like DayZ, Skyrim, GTA 5, and much more. I want to know if I'll be able to run these games on max settings with this build and with no lag. Just that will run just about any game smoothly

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3Ev4i

Will these be able to handle massive games? And get good fps and graphics? If it isn't good enough for these sort of games can someone help by making a build that is good enough?
 
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If you're just going to be gaming, go with an intel CPU, even if its not overclockable, it'll do better.

Consider this:

The i5 is a stronger cpu than the fx 83xx in gaming. The fx 83xx does better in multi-threaded tasks such as video editing, 3d rendering, and such.

The r9 280x is a stronger gpu than the gtx 760.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive...
If you're just going to be gaming, go with an intel CPU, even if its not overclockable, it'll do better.

Consider this:

The i5 is a stronger cpu than the fx 83xx in gaming. The fx 83xx does better in multi-threaded tasks such as video editing, 3d rendering, and such.

The r9 280x is a stronger gpu than the gtx 760.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill CHALLENGER ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.95 @ B&H)
Total: $878.84
 
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The FX-8320 has just about the worst price/performance ratio possible for Skyrim and DayZ. Those are both mostly dual-core games; the FX-8320 will sink down to only 25% of its power, and on 2 cores the FX series is outperformed by a $70 Pentium. Calnin's build is much better, though it costs more.
 

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buy an intel i5 or i7.. youll only need an i5... dont use an amd processor, your budget is good enough for an intel... then just get a sapphire radeon r9 280x, the rest of parts you can pick out yourself... just make sure you get an 600w powersupply and a cpu fan if you plan on doing an OC (overclock)
 

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Please provide some real world specifics on how the Pentium outperforms the 8320? I have to go and play Skyrim when I get home to benchmark it to determine how many cores it uses, so I will get back to you on that while you show me something from hands-on experience where the Pentium can compete with the FX-8320...
 

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The i5 will NOT outperform the FX-83xx in gaming! Does not even have the cache size, resources or frequency to compete. The FX 8 cores compete better against the i7s.

It "may" perform better in a few titles that are Intel optimized, just like the FX will perform better in most all other games and especially better in AMD optimized games.
 
The fx 83xx is weaker in single threaded applications compared to the i5. It has better multi-threaded performance. The i7 will completely outclass the fx 83xx in almost every aspect.

The FX 83xx does well in gaming sure, but the i5 does better. Please, do your research on this. In a game that will utilize the extra cores of the fx 83xx, it'll perform at par or better than the i5. The fx 83xx series was never designed to go against the i7. It was meant to compete with the i5.

Skyrim is a game that would do better with a stronger single threaded cpu, it doesn't mean it won't perform alright with the fx 83xx, but it'll perform better with a cpu with stronger single-threaded performance.
 


Skyrim uses mostly 2 cores, a few token things put onto an additional 2. Go ahead and benchmark it.
Generally a Pentium CPU is not going to be faster than an FX-8320, but for Skyrim specifically it will be.

Anyway, linky. Here's a Pentium G3258 beating an FX-8350 in Skyrim.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-pentium-g3258-review/5
 

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The i5 will always out perform the amd 83xx series.. The only game that amd has a little edge on is in bf4, the i5 is better for gaming, steady performance, the amd 83xx is for budget pcs if you have the money, get an i5 4th generation the amd 83xx isnt even in the same area code, thats the processor is use in my video editing PC
 

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You sound just like an online website. Please stop providing your opinion about a processor you have no experience with. The i5 does not even have the resources to compete with the 8350. And your remark about being designed to compete with the i5 simply is NOT true. I don't know where you read that at. The 8 core was the "flagship" and consistently was measured against the flagship i7-3770k when released. Please stop regurgitating information that you only read online. Better yet, please provide some remarks from the latest "single core" application that you ran on your PC. What "single core" applications are you referring to? Or are you just stating what everyone else does?

When Bulldozer was released in 2011, there were not many games that did utilize multiple cores. However, every new game utilizes all of the resources of the CPU. Wolfenstein New Order uses ALL 8 cores, Max Payne 3 uses 4 to 6, Witcher 2 uses 3 to 4. How do I know this? Because I have a tri-monitor setup and I can clearly see processors being used while gaming. Please find an upcoming blockbuster, or one that was just released (i.e. Wolfenstein), and see what the recommended requirements. It will be at least a quad core CPU.

You all swear the i5 is like the greatest CPU ever. It is a mid range CPU offered by Intel. Don't believe me? Its in its model number: i3 low, i5 middle, i7 high. But if you feel better by convincing yourself that your quad-core, mid range i5 can match the 8350, then keep believing that. However, the reality is quite different.
 
Realistically, if you pair them both with a high tier graphics card, that you get over 60fps on all games, then you won't notice a difference at that point if you have 60hz monitor.

But statistically, strictly gaming, there is little to no difference. Even if it uses all the cores, it doesn't always use them fully effectively. Even at release, the cpu was still falling behind the i5, even the i3 in some cases for gaming and single threaded performance. It matched the i7 in areas that needed more threads/cores.

Crysis 3 is a good example of one that uses more cores to benefit the game. It helps the 83xx keep up with the i7, but the i5 keeps up just as well. The benchmarks themselves show this.

Watch dogs recommends a cpu with 8 threads for ultra settings. Yet the i5 keeps up with the i7.

Even in wolfenstein the i5 keeps up with the i7.

The i5 isn't the greatest CPU ever. For gaming, it's the most cost efficient. The fact that the i5 4460 doesn't bottleneck any graphics card and can keep up with the fx 83xx. Most games up to this point have still been single threaded, which is why the i5 would outperform the fx 8350. If games were able to effectively use more threads then the fx 8350 would more suggested over the i5. Again, that's not really the case.

As for competition with the i5, AMD fx 83xx does have the advantage of having more cores and perform better in multithreaded applications, which include live streaming, recording, and video editing. It does help keep frames at higher frame rates without having an i7.
 


AMD doesn't have any high-end CPUs, you know that, right?

I just posted a benchmark of a Pentium beating the FX-8350 in Skyrim, just like you asked. You have no response?
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/06/24/intel-pentium-g3258-review/5

Here are some benchmarks of both i3s and i5s stomping all over the FX line.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-4340-4330-4130/Charts-1/batman.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-4340-4330-4130/Charts-1/sleepingdogs.png
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/core-i3-4340-4330-4130/Charts-1/hitman.png

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/11/14/intel-core-i3-4130-haswell-review/5

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