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July 28, 2014 1:25:37 AM

Over a month ago I made a post about my memory causing random BSOD when running in an X.M.P profile. I got one response but it was of no help and the original thread kinda died. I have linked the original thread here: http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2191611/patriot-... Hopefully someone can help me out.

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July 28, 2014 1:34:10 AM

What are your other specs? you may need to lower the speed, increase the voltage or change the timings for it to be compatible with your other components. :) 

Just noticed you had the specs in the other post, and people have already given you suggestions. So I'm not sure sorry :( 
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July 28, 2014 1:36:19 AM

Alex Kelly said:
What are your other specs? you may need to lower the speed, increase the voltage or change the timings for it to be compatible with your other components. :) 

Just noticed you had the specs in the other post, and people have already given you suggestions. So I'm not sure sorry :( 


Ya...he suggested increasing my voltage but by default my voltage is already above what he suggested :/ ...thanks anyway.
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July 28, 2014 1:40:55 AM

Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
What are your other specs? you may need to lower the speed, increase the voltage or change the timings for it to be compatible with your other components. :) 

Just noticed you had the specs in the other post, and people have already given you suggestions. So I'm not sure sorry :( 


Ya...he suggested increasing my voltage but by default my voltage is already above what he suggested :/ ...thanks anyway.


That's okay. Make sure the timings are the same as what Patriot recommend, and if that doesn't work, increase them slightly (by one) and decrease the speed to something like 1866MHz and see it that helps. :) 
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July 28, 2014 4:10:11 PM

Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
What are your other specs? you may need to lower the speed, increase the voltage or change the timings for it to be compatible with your other components. :) 

Just noticed you had the specs in the other post, and people have already given you suggestions. So I'm not sure sorry :( 


Ya...he suggested increasing my voltage but by default my voltage is already above what he suggested :/ ...thanks anyway.


That's okay. Make sure the timings are the same as what Patriot recommend, and if that doesn't work, increase them slightly (by one) and decrease the speed to something like 1866MHz and see it that helps. :) 


So I went into my BIOS and looked at the timing. According to the patriot website when running X.M.P the timing should be 11-11-11-30 which is what the automatic configuration is when I set my memory to X.M.P so I'm not sure what to do about that. As far as running the memory at a lower clock like 1866MHz I can't change it. The clock is set to auto based on the profile and whenever I click on it to change it unlike everything else I don't get an option. It's locked on auto.
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July 28, 2014 4:17:49 PM

Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
What are your other specs? you may need to lower the speed, increase the voltage or change the timings for it to be compatible with your other components. :) 

Just noticed you had the specs in the other post, and people have already given you suggestions. So I'm not sure sorry :( 


Ya...he suggested increasing my voltage but by default my voltage is already above what he suggested :/ ...thanks anyway.


That's okay. Make sure the timings are the same as what Patriot recommend, and if that doesn't work, increase them slightly (by one) and decrease the speed to something like 1866MHz and see it that helps. :) 


So I went into my BIOS and looked at the timing. According to the patriot website when running X.M.P the timing should be 11-11-11-30 which is what the automatic configuration is when I set my memory to X.M.P so I'm not sure what to do about that. As far as running the memory at a lower clock like 1866MHz I can't change it. The clock is set to auto based on the profile and whenever I click on it to change it unlike everything else I don't get an option. It's locked on auto.


Turn XMP off and try again, it may unlock the clock speed. :) 

If I use XMP with my RAM I get BSODs. I had to manually set my timings to slightly higher than what they were rated at and I no longer have any issues. :) 
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July 28, 2014 4:38:25 PM

Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
What are your other specs? you may need to lower the speed, increase the voltage or change the timings for it to be compatible with your other components. :) 

Just noticed you had the specs in the other post, and people have already given you suggestions. So I'm not sure sorry :( 


Ya...he suggested increasing my voltage but by default my voltage is already above what he suggested :/ ...thanks anyway.


That's okay. Make sure the timings are the same as what Patriot recommend, and if that doesn't work, increase them slightly (by one) and decrease the speed to something like 1866MHz and see it that helps. :) 


So I went into my BIOS and looked at the timing. According to the patriot website when running X.M.P the timing should be 11-11-11-30 which is what the automatic configuration is when I set my memory to X.M.P so I'm not sure what to do about that. As far as running the memory at a lower clock like 1866MHz I can't change it. The clock is set to auto based on the profile and whenever I click on it to change it unlike everything else I don't get an option. It's locked on auto.


Turn XMP off and try again, it may unlock the clock speed. :) 

If I use XMP with my RAM I get BSODs. I had to manually set my timings to slightly higher than what they were rated at and I no longer have any issues. :) 


Interesting...I'll have to try that. My PC works fine with X.M.P off. It always has I just wanted to run my memory at the specified clock. I'll try the timing thing just to see if it works.
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July 28, 2014 4:43:36 PM

Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
What are your other specs? you may need to lower the speed, increase the voltage or change the timings for it to be compatible with your other components. :) 

Just noticed you had the specs in the other post, and people have already given you suggestions. So I'm not sure sorry :( 


Ya...he suggested increasing my voltage but by default my voltage is already above what he suggested :/ ...thanks anyway.


That's okay. Make sure the timings are the same as what Patriot recommend, and if that doesn't work, increase them slightly (by one) and decrease the speed to something like 1866MHz and see it that helps. :) 


So I went into my BIOS and looked at the timing. According to the patriot website when running X.M.P the timing should be 11-11-11-30 which is what the automatic configuration is when I set my memory to X.M.P so I'm not sure what to do about that. As far as running the memory at a lower clock like 1866MHz I can't change it. The clock is set to auto based on the profile and whenever I click on it to change it unlike everything else I don't get an option. It's locked on auto.


Turn XMP off and try again, it may unlock the clock speed. :) 

If I use XMP with my RAM I get BSODs. I had to manually set my timings to slightly higher than what they were rated at and I no longer have any issues. :) 


Interesting...I'll have to try that. My PC works fine with X.M.P off. It always has I just wanted to run my memory at the specified clock. I'll try the timing thing just to see if it works.


I'd definitely recommend leaving XMP off then. You can manually set the speeds as high as they will go without getting BSODs that way. :D 
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July 28, 2014 5:34:23 PM

Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
What are your other specs? you may need to lower the speed, increase the voltage or change the timings for it to be compatible with your other components. :) 

Just noticed you had the specs in the other post, and people have already given you suggestions. So I'm not sure sorry :( 


Ya...he suggested increasing my voltage but by default my voltage is already above what he suggested :/ ...thanks anyway.


That's okay. Make sure the timings are the same as what Patriot recommend, and if that doesn't work, increase them slightly (by one) and decrease the speed to something like 1866MHz and see it that helps. :) 


So I went into my BIOS and looked at the timing. According to the patriot website when running X.M.P the timing should be 11-11-11-30 which is what the automatic configuration is when I set my memory to X.M.P so I'm not sure what to do about that. As far as running the memory at a lower clock like 1866MHz I can't change it. The clock is set to auto based on the profile and whenever I click on it to change it unlike everything else I don't get an option. It's locked on auto.


Turn XMP off and try again, it may unlock the clock speed. :) 

If I use XMP with my RAM I get BSODs. I had to manually set my timings to slightly higher than what they were rated at and I no longer have any issues. :) 


Interesting...I'll have to try that. My PC works fine with X.M.P off. It always has I just wanted to run my memory at the specified clock. I'll try the timing thing just to see if it works.


I'd definitely recommend leaving XMP off then. You can manually set the speeds as high as they will go without getting BSODs that way. :D 


This brings me to another issue. I can't figure out how to set the clock manually. In my advanced memory settings it's set to auto and it won't let me change it.

Edit: I went into my BIOS and poked around. All of my frequency settings are locked for both APU and memory alike. I feel like I'm missing something.
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July 28, 2014 7:08:35 PM

Did you ever try setting the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 as was suggested...you brought up the CPU voltgae which is totally separate from CPU/NB or NB - that is what needs to go up, it's the MC (memory controllers) voltage
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July 28, 2014 9:08:33 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Did you ever try setting the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 as was suggested...you brought up the CPU voltgae which is totally separate from CPU/NB or NB - that is what needs to go up, it's the MC (memory controllers) voltage


No I did not however this brings me back to my previous issue. All my voltage and frequency settings are locked at auto. They're not grayed out but they have no other options available. Is there something I'm missing?
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July 28, 2014 9:18:52 PM

Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Did you ever try setting the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 as was suggested...you brought up the CPU voltgae which is totally separate from CPU/NB or NB - that is what needs to go up, it's the MC (memory controllers) voltage


No I did not however this brings me back to my previous issue. All my voltage and frequency settings are locked at auto. They're not grayed out but they have no other options available. Is there something I'm missing?


Can you change any of the values at all, even temporarily? It sounds silly but you may be pressing the wrong buttons to try and change them. I have to use - and + (+ being shift and =) to change anything using my MSI board. :) 
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July 28, 2014 9:23:12 PM

Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Did you ever try setting the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 as was suggested...you brought up the CPU voltgae which is totally separate from CPU/NB or NB - that is what needs to go up, it's the MC (memory controllers) voltage


No I did not however this brings me back to my previous issue. All my voltage and frequency settings are locked at auto. They're not grayed out but they have no other options available. Is there something I'm missing?


Can you change any of the values at all, even temporarily? It sounds silly but you may be pressing the wrong buttons to try and change them. I have to use - and + (+ being shift and =) to change anything using my MSI board. :) 


Well with all the other options(like X.M.P or timing) I can either double click or when highlighted press enter and it'll bring up a menu of different options however it won't do that for these. I'll try doing some other means of changing it.
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July 28, 2014 9:24:45 PM

Do you have the latest BIOS, Is the system set to manual?
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July 28, 2014 9:44:33 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Do you have the latest BIOS, Is the system set to manual?


I just updated the BIOS but I was only one version behind being that I checked not too long ago and the new version was in beta at the time.
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July 28, 2014 9:45:19 PM

Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Did you ever try setting the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 as was suggested...you brought up the CPU voltgae which is totally separate from CPU/NB or NB - that is what needs to go up, it's the MC (memory controllers) voltage


No I did not however this brings me back to my previous issue. All my voltage and frequency settings are locked at auto. They're not grayed out but they have no other options available. Is there something I'm missing?


Can you change any of the values at all, even temporarily? It sounds silly but you may be pressing the wrong buttons to try and change them. I have to use - and + (+ being shift and =) to change anything using my MSI board. :) 


Well don't I feel stupid...using + and - allows me to change my settings haha.
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a b } Memory
July 28, 2014 9:48:29 PM

Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Did you ever try setting the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 as was suggested...you brought up the CPU voltgae which is totally separate from CPU/NB or NB - that is what needs to go up, it's the MC (memory controllers) voltage


No I did not however this brings me back to my previous issue. All my voltage and frequency settings are locked at auto. They're not grayed out but they have no other options available. Is there something I'm missing?


Can you change any of the values at all, even temporarily? It sounds silly but you may be pressing the wrong buttons to try and change them. I have to use - and + (+ being shift and =) to change anything using my MSI board. :) 


Well don't I feel stupid...using + and - allows me to change my settings haha.


HAahah! I had that issue too, don't worry! Glad I could help you out with that one ;D now you can try all the other things that we have suggested. Good luck :D 
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July 28, 2014 9:49:43 PM

Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Did you ever try setting the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 as was suggested...you brought up the CPU voltgae which is totally separate from CPU/NB or NB - that is what needs to go up, it's the MC (memory controllers) voltage


No I did not however this brings me back to my previous issue. All my voltage and frequency settings are locked at auto. They're not grayed out but they have no other options available. Is there something I'm missing?


Can you change any of the values at all, even temporarily? It sounds silly but you may be pressing the wrong buttons to try and change them. I have to use - and + (+ being shift and =) to change anything using my MSI board. :) 


Well don't I feel stupid...using + and - allows me to change my settings haha.


HAahah! I had that issue too, don't worry! Glad I could help you out with that one ;D now you can try all the other things that we have suggested. Good luck :D 


I'll keep you guys posted on my results haha. Thanks!
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July 28, 2014 10:13:34 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Did you ever try setting the CPU/NB voltage to 1.25 as was suggested...you brought up the CPU voltgae which is totally separate from CPU/NB or NB - that is what needs to go up, it's the MC (memory controllers) voltage


So I need a bit more help. I've looked everywhere in my BIOS but could not find my current NB voltage. As far as adjusting it I can only adjust it in increments but it gives me the value in a +0.xxxV format with +0.300V being the max. I don't know what the default voltage is nor how to find it so I don't know what value would be around 1.25
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a c 2285 } Memory
July 28, 2014 10:22:15 PM

Take it up + 0.125 or there abouts and try
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July 28, 2014 10:30:22 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Take it up + 0.125 or there abouts and try


I took it up to +0.126 since the increment is +0.006. I'll let you know if it works since the crashes were random and the memory did run on X.M.P for some time before causing a BSOD. It generally did it while running games so I'll keep you posted.
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a c 2285 } Memory
July 28, 2014 10:34:02 PM

Will be in and out
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July 28, 2014 11:56:17 PM

Tradesman1 said:
Will be in and out


Alright...I blue screened. The exact error at the top was PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA.
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a b } Memory
July 28, 2014 11:59:08 PM

Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Will be in and out


Alright...I blue screened. The exact error at the top was PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA.


Did you turn XMP off and adjust the timings and frequency as I suggested? I think you should try that before changing anything else. :) 
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July 29, 2014 12:42:16 AM

Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Will be in and out


Alright...I blue screened. The exact error at the top was PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA.


Did you turn XMP off and adjust the timings and frequency as I suggested? I think you should try that before changing anything else. :) 


That's what I'm doing now. XMP off at 2133 but the timings are 12-12-12-32 instead of 11-11-11-30. So far so good but it was never predictable before so we'll see what happens.
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a b } Memory
July 29, 2014 12:53:06 AM

Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Will be in and out


Alright...I blue screened. The exact error at the top was PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA.


Did you turn XMP off and adjust the timings and frequency as I suggested? I think you should try that before changing anything else. :) 


That's what I'm doing now. XMP off at 2133 but the timings are 12-12-12-32 instead of 11-11-11-30. So far so good but it was never predictable before so we'll see what happens.


Okay :)  sounds good. I'm feelin' optimistic about this. :D 
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July 29, 2014 8:00:24 PM

Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Will be in and out


Alright...I blue screened. The exact error at the top was PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA.


Did you turn XMP off and adjust the timings and frequency as I suggested? I think you should try that before changing anything else. :) 


That's what I'm doing now. XMP off at 2133 but the timings are 12-12-12-32 instead of 11-11-11-30. So far so good but it was never predictable before so we'll see what happens.


Okay :)  sounds good. I'm feelin' optimistic about this. :D 


Thanks for the help. I haven't had a BSOD yet and based on previous ones it should have happened by now since my PC has basically been on all day.
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a b } Memory
July 29, 2014 8:01:40 PM

Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Alex Kelly said:
Scoopta said:
Tradesman1 said:
Will be in and out


Alright...I blue screened. The exact error at the top was PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA.


Did you turn XMP off and adjust the timings and frequency as I suggested? I think you should try that before changing anything else. :) 


That's what I'm doing now. XMP off at 2133 but the timings are 12-12-12-32 instead of 11-11-11-30. So far so good but it was never predictable before so we'll see what happens.


Okay :)  sounds good. I'm feelin' optimistic about this. :D 


Thanks for the help. I haven't had a BSOD yet and based on previous ones it should have happened by now since my PC has basically been on all day.


Yay! No worries at all, glad I could help. :D 
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September 24, 2014 10:03:40 PM

Unfortunately the posted answer didn't actually work. It did make my system run a lot more stable than it had previously so I thought it worked however it did not run 100% completely stable. I decided to give another forum a try since I've posted here unsuccessfully twice. They couldn't help so I finally opened a support ticket with patriot and they gave me a solution that is keeping my system running perfectly stable. All I had to do was enable X.M.P then increase my DRAM voltage to 1.65v and my tRFC to 300ns.
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