Two routers one problem, HELP!!!

Tyree Walker

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We have two routers, one we bought its a netgear, and the one that came with the internet phone company, its a modem/router, i was concerned about this for a while, two routers could that interfere? Well heres my problem, i play apb reloaded, and when im connected to the netgear i have the most unplayable lag, i get up to 1200 ms, when i play on the other router its not as bad, i get around 500-600 ping, but when i turn off the netgear router i get like 30ms, my parents want to use the netgear router but we need the other router cause thats a modem to, i tried changing channels but that doesnt work. how can i fix this, we are experiencing network drops and slow internet sometimes
 
Solution
The netgear is dual band and should provide better wifi and have beter overall system perofrmance over the modem/router.

Without the modem/router being configured correctly though, the modem/router is greatly handicaping the netgear router.
The modem should be set as bridge mode (also called modem only, bypass mode, etc) so that way it just performs the task of converting the dsl connection to ethernet and authenticating your username and password login to your ISP (this connection protocal is called PPPoE). It should also have wireless dissabled.
You would then configure the netgear as a normal router.

Currently the two routers in the same room are most likely interferring with each others wirieless channels. Being that close...
Please answer all questions.

First off, are your ping times using wireless or wired connection?
What is the reason for the netgear router?
Is the netgear router hardwired to modem/router or set as a wireless repeater?
Physically, what is the layout of your equipment (where is modem, where is netgear, where is your pc)?
What is the model number of both the modem/router and the netgear router?

You most likely need to dissable wireless on the modem/router and configure the netgear as wireless access point but without answers to all the questions above my immediae asumptions could be incorrect for your needs/setup
 

orlbuckeye

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The term used to bipass the internal router for your modem is called bridging. If the modem/router is property of your internet provider sometime they lock your internet with their own password and don't allow you to access the configuration where you would to the bridging.You probably are interfering with the signals from the 2 routers.
 

Tyree Walker

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Im connected Wirelessly
My parents say its better and there really stubborn probably cause im 17 and there the adult
The netgear is wired with the modem/router with an ethernet cord
There right beside each other, i dont understand why we need the netgear one
Were at opposite ends of the house but our house is not very big so its no a far at all i get all 5 bars on signal

Netgear Router: http://www.cnet.com/products/netgear-n600-wireless-dual-band-router-wndr3400-series/
Modem/Router: ADB P-RG-EA4201N thats it i think, i would try bridging but i cant get in the control panel, i tried everything
 
The netgear is dual band and should provide better wifi and have beter overall system perofrmance over the modem/router.

Without the modem/router being configured correctly though, the modem/router is greatly handicaping the netgear router.
The modem should be set as bridge mode (also called modem only, bypass mode, etc) so that way it just performs the task of converting the dsl connection to ethernet and authenticating your username and password login to your ISP (this connection protocal is called PPPoE). It should also have wireless dissabled.
You would then configure the netgear as a normal router.

Currently the two routers in the same room are most likely interferring with each others wirieless channels. Being that close together, they can still cause a lot of noise for each other even if on different channels. In current setup the modem/router recieves the dsl connection and authenticates it, then it performes dhcp addressing, routing, and wireless before passing it to the netgear to then perform the samae dhcp addressing, routing and wireless (and the modem/router processor is doing it slower then the netgear).
 
Solution
If you search online for your modem/roter you can find info on how to access it.

I cant help you bypass any security that your parents put in place, it is agianst forum rules.

I would recomend a powerline adapter over wifi even if your parents will allow you or someone to configure the routers to not be handicaping each other.
A 500mbps or better powerline kit (tp-link has a 500mpbs kit for around $40) will give you better ping times then wireless can even with line of sight.
 

orlbuckeye

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I received a Modem/router from my internet provider Brighthouse when upgraded my internet to lightning. By lightning i had a different router and when I ordered the high speed they said they had to send a technician out to install the new router (Motorola). I have my own router a Linksys 802.11 N. After the technician left in tried to change the SSID to a name that made sence. Well I typed in the 192.168.0.1 and I tried login but it said wrong password. The then researched Motorola's passwords and the specific model's docs and it wasn't the same password as the documentation. I then found out the Brighthouse and others configure the router/modems and define the SSID and sometime it changes nightly. They don't want to give the password out. Some friends of mine have been able to get their passwords from Brighthouse and test that they don't change the passwords every 24 hours. I did connect my router for a bit and did get better performance then the built in router without bridging the Motorola router. I then purchased the new Motorola SBC6782-AC modem Surfboard eXtreme router. I called Brighthouse gave then the MAC address of the modem/router and I was up. It created 3 actual wireless networks one was a 2.4 GHZ and the other 5 GHZ and a guest network. I renamed all of them to names I liked and set the security for networks. Now the laptop i use that is the furthest away from the router shows 100% signal strength when the old one was around 80%.