770 can't play anything at high or ultra 1440x900.... -_-

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 28, 2014

This card... dips to 40 fps in team fights in league of legends ffs... why please someone tell me? Watch dogs 39-52 normal 60-80 rarely the witcher 2 dips and stays at 50fps... (games from 2011 can't run well on ''high end'' gpu from 2013 lol...) skyrim dips to 45 in some places ac4 30 fps ultra( ok here even 780ti dips) fc3 dips to 45 fps while watching at many guards cars etc for some reason or flames,smoke and all this at 1440x900.... wow gj nvidia i spend 2yrs mone for this... Only bf4 perform very well 57-120 at ultra avg 80.But am curious why i get such low fps in lol? i5 3350p 3.3ghz 1600mgz 8 ram kingston wd blue 1tb hdd 7200rpm vs 650w and this ''gaming card'' 770 msi tf gaming oc edition..

TopLuca · Jul 28, 2014

Whats your CPU ?

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 28, 2014

TopLuca :

I said it,i5 3350p 3.3ghz

haider95 · Jul 28, 2014

if you're using insane amount of msaa, that may be the problem

also, your 3350p isnt doing the 770 any favors..

also, some of the games you mentioned require textures to be loaded on screen pretty quick which is why its good to get an ssd, with that kind of system you should already have one

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 28, 2014

haider95 :

Max aa that am using is msaa 4x i bf4 and msaa 2x in watch degs(even with fxaa in wd i get almost same fps as msaa 2x) but why i get 40fps in lol... And yeah i know that the i5 3550p bottleneck a bit but in lol...

haider95 · Jul 28, 2014

Denis Stoikovski :

use some software to fakely increase the resolution and see if that removes the bottleneck, wouldnt even do that tbh i'd be happy with those fps

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 28, 2014

haider95 :

Denis Stoikovski :

use some software to fakely increase the resolution and see if that removes the bottleneck, wouldnt even do that tbh i'd be happy with those fps

Well my old gt 640 never let me down do 40fps on lol... What software for increasing the res?

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 28, 2014

haider95 :

Denis Stoikovski :

use some software to fakely increase the resolution and see if that removes the bottleneck, wouldnt even do that tbh i'd be happy with those fps

Well my old gt 640 never let me down do 40fps on lol... What software for increasing the res?

jshoop · Jul 28, 2014

that i5 wont bottleneck any gpu. the p suffix only designates that it doesnt have intel hd graphics enabled, which doesnt matter since there is a gpu anyway.

also, all the game textures are loaded onto the gpu's onboard memory. on the 770, that is gddr5 memory, likely 2gb. thats why vram is important, big games with lots of textures can use all of it. ssd's will only speed up load times, like loading a map.

i remember your thread before died out denis, i forget what was exactly mentioned. if you lower your settings to as low as they can go, does your fps increase by alot?

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 28, 2014

jshoop :

Well in this cr**apy game watch dogs nope same.. in ac4 well 50fps skyrim 300 avg lol haven't try yet

jshoop · Jul 28, 2014

watch dogs is just poorly optimized for pc since the pc version was rushed out to make the deadline. it will get better with time.

while gaming can you monitor cpu and gpu usage? this is with the settings up to where you have them and are experiencing problems. the gpu usage should be as close to 100% as possible, that means its not being bottlenecked and can run as fast as it can. if the cpu is at 100 and the gpu isnt, that means the cpu is bottlenecking the 770 (which it shouldnt be)

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 28, 2014

jshoop :

wd,bf4,ac4 gpu 99% cpu 100% skyrim,tw2,fc3 gpu 70-96% cpu 90-100%

jshoop · Jul 28, 2014

it seems like your processor is slowing down your gpu for some reason, but it shouldnt be. check the temps in game (when its at 100%). if its too high the speeds will clock down and cause performance issues.

also, make sure your cpu is running at full speed when gaming. im not sure what program your using to monitor but in most ones off the internet theres a place to monitor clock speed. make sure thats at 3.3ghz

Matthew-san · Jul 29, 2014

It definitely looks like your CPU is 'still' bottlenecking your GPU and there's no way of getting around that unless you buy a new CPU since you can't overclock the one you have. Either that, or you can just lower the AA and possibly other settings that could put demand on your CPU. Like I said in your other thread, you have to have a high-end CPU accompany a high-end GPU if you expect to get the true performance of your 770.

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 29, 2014

jshoop :

Gpu 68-73c(two times hit 79 but then the temps outside were around 35-40c) cpu is always at 73-76c

jshoop · Jul 29, 2014

http://ark.intel.com/products/69114/Intel-Core-i5-3350P-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz

this link shows the max temp the processor should get to before it starts throttling. if you scroll down to the package specifications, it shows the Tcase is 67 degrees celcius. your processor is going over and throttling i think. to make sure that is true, but can you check to make sure your clock speed is at 3.3ghz when gaming an that temperature? a program to use is cpu-z

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 29, 2014

jshoop :

How can i catch it when? also am getting a new ultra tower case with 10 fans bzxt 630 or nzxt 810 so will this help?

TheLastof Me · Jul 29, 2014

Denis Stoikovski :

Those numbers look right for a mid range build. He has a mid range CPU and a mid range GPU. The i5 only has four cores and the 770 is like the lowest of the high end cards. It is borderline between mid range and high end. So those numbers look right for a mid range to slightly upper range build.

TheLastof Me · Jul 29, 2014

The 770 has 2GB VRAM and 256 bit bandwidth, the exact same as 270x. He is getting about what he should get in those games.

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 29, 2014

TheLastof Me :

lol nope 770 should be high end plus the 780 is getting 4-5 frames more

TheLastof Me · Jul 29, 2014

Denis Stoikovski :

Like I stated, your build is a mid range build. It is NOT a high end gaming system. Compared to the new consoles it is high end. Your frames per second and CPU and GPU usage are what they should be. When I had a A10, my CPU would be in the 90% to 100% in most demanding games. With my 8350, game usage does not top 60% in all of my games.

Someone else suggested just adjusting the settings until you can game comfortably. When I had only one 270x, I would have to use fraps and keep adjusting the graphic settings to get the performance I wanted. I don't have to do that now with two 270x in CFX.

Denis Stoikovski · Jul 29, 2014

TheLastof Me :

Denis Stoikovski :

Like I stated, your build is a mid range build. It is NOT a high end gaming system. Compared to the new consoles it is high end. Your frames per second and CPU and GPU usage are what they should be. When I had a A10, my CPU would be in the 90% to 100% in most demanding games. With my 8350, game usage does not top 60% in all of my games.

Someone else suggested just adjusting the settings until you can game comfortably. When I had only one 270x, I would have to use fraps and keep adjusting the graphic settings to get the performance I wanted. I don't have to do that now with two 270x in CFX.

The 770 is equal to 280x,Also should i get i7 5th gen when they're out an will i be finaly able to max out games at this low resolution.

TheLastof Me · Jul 29, 2014

It is equal to the 280x in price! LOL According to to its specs it is aligned with a 270x. The 280x has 3GB VRAM with a 384-bit bandwidth.

On the other hand, the 770 has 2GB with a 256-bit bandwidth. The 280x also has 2084 stream processors. The GTX 770 has 1586 CUDA cores. So it is less powerful in every regard to the 280x.

The 270x has 1280 stream processors. Which is less than 770. So while the 770 is slightly better than 270x, it is not in the same category as the 280x.

Damn_Rookie · Jul 29, 2014

TheLastof Me :

You cannot directly compare specs between different architectures, that is a fool's game. A stream processor is not the same as a CUDA core, so you cannot just compare numbers. The only numbers of any interest are the performance figures of the two cards, when tested with identical settings: the basis of all the many hardware review sites out there.

As any reputable site will tell you, the 770 is approximately equal in performance to the 280X (faster in some games, slower in a few others).

Matthew-san · Jul 29, 2014

The 770 is by far not a 'mid-range' GPU and he is absolutely not getting the performance out of it that he should be. I have the 770 and play the exact games he does and get higher fps on average with the resolution set on 1920x1080p! Lol His GPU should hit %100 as much as possible. If he's seeing 65%-70% on some games then he's definitely not getting the performance from his card the he should be.

770 can't play anything at high or ultra 1440x900.... -_-

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