Weird Problem on my HDD

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 28, 2014

Hello and good day computer geeks...

My name is Anthony but first let me say that please be patient on my english grammar i hope you understands it coz this is my best

so here we go.. im having a weird trouble with my computer
i hope you guys can help me about this coz im starting to lose hope that my problem will be solved

but first here is some infos about my computer

Processor : Intel pentium G620 2.6Ghz dual core
RAM : 8GB
GPU : Nvidia Geforce GT610
i have a wifi adapter(PCIe) coz my lancard/port is broken

so here is the issue

i have 4 HDDs(all sata) and every morning i turn on my computer to check my emails/online msgs my computer beeps and its way to far different on a beeping with the memory error,and the beeping isnt coming out from the small speaker from the mobo,i cant tell where it is coming from,it will beep for like 5 times and it doesnt boots i check the bios and one of the HDD with the OS is not detected,now to solve the problem i need to wait for like 10 minutes and turn it off and open the case,unplug the sata cable from my HDD with the OS then plug it in again then it will boot up...

i already check each of my hdd one by one,all are working flawlessly,the issue only occurs when the 4HDD is plugged in..
but when only 3 is plugged in it works fine...

i also tried each HDD one by one on a different computers and its good

i need to that procedure every morning...
then i figured it out that it needs to be done when my computer is been resting for a long time,its like it needs to be wamed up first or something like that

way back its working fine before i add a new HDD 250GB,at first i thought i bought a broken hdd but it is not..

so thats it,i hope you guys can help me.. im from the philippines and i already asked some ITs here and no one can solve my problem,they are also puzzled with my issue

Thanks in advance

later i will upload a video with my problem...

Chicano · Jul 28, 2014

It's probably like a long, intermittent and persistent faint beep... right? malfunctioning Hard Drives can make that sound the issue is fully explained here.

Install Hard Disk Sentinel and check the scan results... the Hard Drive with worse results is most likely the one you should start removing information from and keep an eye on because it may suddenly stop running. If no issues are found by Hard Disk Sentinel, it may be the PSU is not providing the necessary power to run all Hard Disks flawlessly.

What's your PSU wattage, age, brand and model?.

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 29, 2014

Chicano :

Thank you on your quick reply Chicano
i have read that post and we have a same brand of HDD,my seagate 500gb hdd also not working anymore...
it was my fifth hdd actually...

by the way my PSU info is
RiSe P4-600W it has also a sticker of Intel Core i7 and AMD and its a 2 year old PSU
i havent tried the hard disk sentinel yet bu ill try it later

i also noticed now that the beeping is coming out from the HDD,i didnt knew that hdd has a beeping function
so it might be the psu right? i also have 4 cooler master fans... 3 is plugged in at the PSU and the other one is plugged in on the mobo

so does this mean i need a new psu with more wattage? coz i forgot to mention that when all is plugged in speaker/hdd/fans i can hear that my psu is ticking

Chicano · Jul 29, 2014

The 600 Watt rating is the maximum it could supply when new... by now it may be having trouble supplying enough to power up all four hard drives and fans.. This may cause the Hard Drive to beep because it may need more power to efficiently spinup so the header releases from the platter. If your OS is installed on this HDD, that's what causes the boot issue.

Your HDD may not be as bad as I intially thought because I just remembered one of my HDDs beeps occasionally and I don't have PSU problems. My HDD is not in top condition but not so bad either, but it obviously has a tendency to stick... That tendency may be worse in yours and the PSU may be worsening it even further. The beep is not a function, it's caused by the friction of the head rubbing on the platter.

Read the comments on that PSU here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/358019-28-computer-system-power-supply

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 29, 2014

Chicano :

i have already read the thread.. me and the guy asking are in the same country,its one our issue,our currency is kinda poor and its hard for us to earn enough budgets to build a good pc

so all in all i just need to replace my psu right? is there anyway to solve my problem for the mean time until i have enough budget to replace my components? im planning to remove some of my fans first then put it back until i get a new psu..

Chicano · Jul 29, 2014

Well, the PSU is kind of suspicious but you need to make sure it really needs to be replaced, the only way is trying the computer with another PSU.. borrow one if possible, if a replacement PSU makes it startup normally, you'll have your answer.

If that's not possible, remove non essential components that draw power from the PSU. This could be extra case fans, unessential hard drives, any peripherals that may draw power via USB. So, this could be your temporary solution for the meantime. You could also pause the boot for a while (maybe a minute at most) while the PSU "warms-up" the motherboard and components, after this, it may boot right up on the first try.
1. You could pause the BIOS post with he Pause key, and later press enter to continue...
2. you could also press Delete to enter the BIOS and later exit without saving, or
3. you could reboot before the BIOS beep with ctrl+alt+del, repeating this a few times.

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 29, 2014

Chicano :

i have already tested some other PSUs (with the same wattage) but its still the same,i might barrow some other PSUs with my friends with a good brand with the same wattage and observe the results,i have already removed 2 of my fans and still have the same issue...
as of now the only working temporary solution is wait for the computer to warm up,i turn it on and go to bios and wait for it for like 5 minutes then boot..

well sir thank you very very much on your help.. i really appreciate it.. ill report back here as soon as my problem is solved to help thers with the same problem like mine...

thank you sir once again...

Chicano · Jul 30, 2014

Now that you mentioned trying other PSUs with the same wattage, it becomes less likely to be the cause... you could still keep testing it with more PSUs but I doubt there will be a change. As far as I know, the Watt rating is the maximum a PSU can produce under high demand, but for normal use the output is not near the maximum watt rating (E.G.: 600W).

What could cause this issue is the PSU condition and I doubt all the PSUs you tested are in bad condition... so, I no longer think your PSU is the cause. The more likely cause becomes the HDD. If you want to keep it installed, see if a chkdsk done from a command prompt window, a disk defragg, and a Startup Repair from the Windows disk improve the boot time. You could also use EasyBCD if you have Windows 7, to repair or renew the Bootloader which may help improve the boot issue.

You may have to repeat the Startup Repair several times to get the repair completed, and if the boot issue is not solved, remove the hard drive or keep using the 5 minute pause.

Do a disk check on the System drive with "CHKDSK C: /R" and if the HDD with issues is not the system drive, also do a disk check on it with "CHKDSK X: /R" (where X is the HDD drive letter)

How to defrag Windows 7
http://www.wikihow.com/Defrag-Windows-7

How to Run a Startup Repair in Windows 7
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/681-startup-repair.html

EasyBCD Community Edition
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/EasyBCD.shtml

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 30, 2014

Chicano :

i have tried all of these steps and still nothing works.. dont be surprised that i did it so fast coz ived monitoring these thread lol
well like ived said nothing works but guess what i found out the problem..

i noticed that the settings of overclocking on the bois in turned on..
here are the options

-POWER SAVING
-OPTIMAL
-PERFORMANCE

the performance button is highlighted even if my processor doesnt support overclocking that causes my computer to use such power.. i didnt know that it was turned on and cant remember if i did that,maybe i clicked it by accident..
now i got the problem fixed as of now.. but still im not convinced.. im gonna observe my rig for issues

thank you so much on your effort for helping me.. i learned so much trouble shooting some of the components and all the tools you shared coz i might use this in the future

Chicano · Jul 30, 2014

If infact those are overclocking settings, that may be the cause... depends on what (CPU, RAM or both) was overclocked, and how much it was overclocked. If you post your motheboard make and model I could search for a manual to check those settings if one a manual is available.

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 30, 2014

Chicano :

Here are all the infos i can gather so far,i dont know how to check some other system spec/infos yet
if you need more info please teach me how to get it

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/EarthQuake24/Untitled1.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/EarthQuake24/Untitled2.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/EarthQuake24/Untitled3.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/EarthQuake24/Untitled4.jpg

and here is the OCing settings im telling you,but actually i dont have an idea how it works
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/EarthQuake24/1-2.png

Chicano · Jul 30, 2014

The settings you mentioned are performance, quiet and energy saving, the oerformance setting is a sort of boost or turbo setting but not actually a overclocking setting... the only component that seems to have been overclocked is the GPU... the CPU-Z image says GPU clock 850Mhz while default clock is 810Mhz... it's a small increase in speed so it may not be enough to cause problems... but it would be better setting it back to the default clock of 810Mhz.
http://s126.photobucket.com/user/EarthQuake24/media/Untitled4.jpg.html

As for the CPU BIOS overclock setting, I still don't know what motherboard you have, so look in the manual for a Asus M5A99FX PRO R20 motherboard, according to your BIOS picture it may have the same UEFI BIOS and the setting should be about the same. Look in page 3.8 for the Ai Tweaker, Overclock tuner, the image shows the default settings, and page 3.9 explains them.
http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A99FX_PRO_R20/HelpDesk_Manual/

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 30, 2014

my mobo model is P8H61-M LX if im not mistaken coz its what it says here
http://s126.photobucket.com/user/EarthQuake24/media/Untitled2.jpg.html

let me check this asus link and look for a better setting

Chicano · Jul 30, 2014

Download the Asus P8H61-M LX PDF Manual
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P8H61M_LX/HelpDesk_Manual/

2.4 Ai Tweaker Menu, page 2.14 for the Overclocking settings. The image is the BIOS at the default values, with everything on Auto and the Power saving Mode is disabled. See if you have any different setting and if necessary set them to defaults. According to your images, only the GPU is a bit overclocked but check all the settings to be sure.

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 30, 2014

ok thanks a lot..
ill just set everything into its defaults..

AnthonyAshForever · Jul 31, 2014

ok i have revert everything on its defaults including the power saving options on the bios

but after this past day the beeping hdd is back again...
also removed some fans and other components that uses power but it didnt help
i think the only way to solve this is to remove one of my hdd.. what yah think?
coz i tried every hdd one by one and i can surely tell that all hdds is working fine,i also tried to combine these 4 hdds like

hdd1 + hdd2 + hdd3
hdd2 + hdd3 + hdd4
hdd4 + hdd1 + hdd3

etc etc etc and all is working good,but when 4 hdd is plugged..well beep beep
i also tried different spare hdds from my friends but it still beeps when im using 4hdds

well i think i have to remove one or is there anymore way to solve this?
i think my rig cant handle 4 hdds or something like that...

Chicano · Aug 1, 2014

Well, yes remove one hard drive but make it the one that's beeping... because only one is beeping, and I doubt there is more than one. If you havent identified which one it is, find out which one and remove it.

If you have access to at least three HDDs from your friends:
1. install those 3 with 1 of your HDDs
2. next try those 3 with your 2nd HDD
3. later try the 3 with your 3rd HDD
4. and last try the 3 with your 4th HDD

Only 1 should beep, unless you have more than 1 that beeps but that would be rare coincidence.

AnthonyAshForever · Aug 1, 2014

i have already tried those but the only hdd that beeps is the one i choose to boot,including my friend's hdds ( any of those )
this thing is so weird >.<

Chicano · Aug 1, 2014

Let me see if I get it right... Any HDD you install as the boot drive, any at all will beep?.. If so, the issue must be in the motherboard, may be a bad SATA port or SATA cable.. I suppose you connect each boot HDD in the Num1 SATA port with the same SATA cable?... try it on the Num2 SATA port, a different SATA cable, or both, and see if it still beeps.

AnthonyAshForever · Aug 2, 2014

at firsts it beeps.. and yes any sata/power cable i use it will beeps on any hdd i choose to boot
but as of now the beeping crap is gone and it boots.. but now there is a new annoying problem again..
like i said it boots properly without the beeping and i checked the bois all 4hdd is recognized then when the desktop is ready one of the 3 extra hdd is missing,its like not being recognized,i check the disk management and it isnt there to make the missing hdd appear i need to restart it.. just like that and no problem.. i tried it many times and i just need to restart it after the first boot to make all hdd work

Chicano · Aug 2, 2014

It sounds like now Windows is not recognizing the HDD. If the BIOS recognizes it it's because it's spinning normally but for some reason Windows does not detect it. May be due to registry corruption... See if assigning a different drive letter to it helps.

On the restart when the HDD is recognized: Click Start / Computer: right click and select Manage / Disk Management / right click on the HDD with the problem / and choose "change drive letters and paths" / Click Change / Select a different available letter / press OK and exit the Registry.

If that doesn't work: Click Start / type regedit on the Search bar or Run command and press Enter / browse to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ MountedDevices \ Just to check the difference count the number of values on the right of Mounted Devices, and next select them all and delete them*. Immediately restart the computer, check if the HDD is detected by Windows, and check again in the registry key named Mounted Devices, and count the number of values. Compare to the number you counted before. If necessary change the drive letter again. Restart the computer again and see if the HDD is detected by Windows.

*The registry data you delete will be created new with two values for each drive and free of the clutter or corruption which must be there from all the times you installed and removed hard drives. Each time you add a HDD, a new drive letter is automatically assigned, and a new registry value is created in "Mounted Devices", these values can accumulate and may cause a drive of several installed to hide in Explorer, Computer and Disk Management.

AnthonyAshForever · Aug 3, 2014

done with it..but still the problem still exist...
as of now i just transferred all files from one of the hdd.. and now i only use 3..
and it is working very good,i also plugged in all my fans and accessories,well it is good... i think theres a intelnal problem in my mobo,i think should bring my machine into an asus repair shop..
ived been repairing some of my friends computer for the past 5 years and i can solve some of the minor problems... i cant call myself an expert but i have much knowledge on computers but this problem really puzzles me >.<

i report back to this thread as soon as i get to the repair shop,i need time to earn enough money to pay them coz its the philippines and most of the thing here needs to be payed lol..here in the philippines the only thing thats free is the air we breath lol

im so glad that i posted my problem here and i learned a lot on troubleshooting from you,and by the way thank you very much once again for giving so much effort for helping me..

Chicano · Aug 3, 2014

You're welcome... wish I could have been more helpfull but some problems can only be solved by replacing components. Your motherboard may have a bad SATA port or something related, or could be as simple as a bad SATA cable.

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