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July 29, 2014 4:50:01 AM

So today am going to purchase one of those(still if you think there are better cases out there for the budged of 180$ let me know!) I liked the 630 cause its..huge plus it have fan mounter at the back up to 10 fans which is great for me cause my mobo support only one fan,the case have 10 fans one to cool the cpu/gpu and rare fan so when the gpu throw heat this fan will suck it out which is great(here in my country avg temps are 30-40) but i must know will my vs 650w let me have 10 fans plus the gtx 770 and the i5 3350p? And how better is the 760t if its really? Oh and can i sli up to 3x in both cases? And will my atx mobo fit in it? http://www.corsair.com/en/graphite-series Corsair 760t http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/118-phantom-630.html Nzxt 630

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July 29, 2014 5:06:58 AM

You be fine running even 10 fans with the 650W and the i5 with the GTX 770. I wouldn't consider an SLI setup if you don't upgrade your power supply to something like a good seasonic or XFX 850w. The Phantom 630 can easily handle 3-way SLI and even extended ATX motherboards.

The Phantom 630 is one of the easiest cases I've ever worked with. Removable drive bays, SSD mounts behind the motherboard tray. 10-fan controller. Tons of space for cable management which will also help with the temps.

It comes with 3x200mm fans (front/side/top) and a 140mm rear fan. I would see how things go with the supplied fans and add as necessary. Just use the switch on the Phantom 630 to crank the fans to high if necessary since you have high ambient temps. If you need things a little cooler, just add fans as necessary.

Update: I started the response before your update. If you can somehow get a hold of a Phantom 630, do it.
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July 29, 2014 5:16:01 AM

ubercake said:
You be fine running even 10 fans with the 650W and the i5 with the GTX 770. I wouldn't consider an SLI setup if you don't upgrade your power supply to something like a good seasonic or XFX 850w. The Phantom 630 can easily handle 3-way SLI and even extended ATX motherboards.

The Phantom 630 is one of the easiest cases I've ever worked with. Removable drive bays, SSD mounts behind the motherboard tray. 10-fan controller. Tons of space for cable management which will also help with the temps.

It comes with 3x200mm fans (front/side/top) and a 140mm rear fan. I would see how things go with the supplied fans and add as necessary. Just use the switch on the Phantom 630 to crank the fans to high if necessary since you have high ambient temps. If you need things a little cooler, just add fans as necessary.

Update: I started the response before your update. If you can somehow get a hold of a Phantom 630, do it.


It comes with 3x fans? Woah that's great,its kinda strange for me why the 760t cost way more. So yes i found it! http://www.emag.bg/kutija-nzxt-phantom-630-gunmetal-ult... It looks amazing but i found another one :D  http://www.emag.bg/kutija-nzxt-phantom-810-matte-black-... the 630 is like 5$ more than the 810 which is better?
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July 29, 2014 9:23:46 AM

There are a few things with the 810 that I like better, but it stops with those:
1) I like the windowed case on the 810 model. But you do sacrifice a side fan because of it.
You can buy the Phantom 630 with the windowed side panel (or even buy it after for $30), but then you sacrifice the use of the 200mm side fan on the default model. With your ambient temps, your going to want the version with the side fan.
2) You could argue the docking bay is a plus with the 810, but I'd never have use of it, myself.
3) The 810 is a little more traditional looking.
4) The card reader looks to be better integrated with the 810. One thing I do not like about the 630 is the SD card slot on the case doesn't quite line up with the reader at least on mine. YMMV for sure, but this is one thing that annoys me about the 630 case, but I have a USB multi-reader so I never have had any issue other than trying the 630's for the first time. I'm sure I could tweak it a tad and get it to line up, but I really don't have a need to.

Some differences between the 810 and 630:
The 810 is squared off on top whereas the 630 is angled. It takes up a little less space top to bottom and is a little thinner.

The 630 has the SSD mounts on the back of the motherboard tray. This is a great use of space! You can mount to SSDs to the back of the motherboard tray. It seems simple, but it's quite thoughtful when it comes to designing a case.

The biggest difference I see, though is the lack of 200mm fans (and subsequently, fan options) in the Switch 810. 200mm fans are not as loud as the smaller 140s or 120s, so there is a definite advantage to the Phantom there. You can move a lot of air with these 200s with less noise.

You also have a 3-speed fan switch with the 630. With the amount of air the 200s move, you may find you can turn the fan speed down even in your high-ambient temp climate.

Either case would be great, but personally, I went through the same thing when I replaced my Thermaltake Spedo case. I went down to a large local computer shop (microcenter) to see/touch all of the cases I was considering. After doing so, I chose the 630 because it has high-end quality and case features for a mid-range tower case price.
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July 29, 2014 10:59:46 AM

ubercake said:
There are a few things with the 810 that I like better, but it stops with those:
1) I like the windowed case on the 810 model. But you do sacrifice a side fan because of it.
You can buy the Phantom 630 with the windowed side panel (or even buy it after for $30), but then you sacrifice the use of the 200mm side fan on the default model. With your ambient temps, your going to want the version with the side fan.
2) You could argue the docking bay is a plus with the 810, but I'd never have use of it, myself.
3) The 810 is a little more traditional looking.
4) The card reader looks to be better integrated with the 810. One thing I do not like about the 630 is the SD card slot on the case doesn't quite line up with the reader at least on mine. YMMV for sure, but this is one thing that annoys me about the 630 case, but I have a USB multi-reader so I never have had any issue other than trying the 630's for the first time. I'm sure I could tweak it a tad and get it to line up, but I really don't have a need to.

Some differences between the 810 and 630:
The 810 is squared off on top whereas the 630 is angled. It takes up a little less space top to bottom and is a little thinner.

The 630 has the SSD mounts on the back of the motherboard tray. This is a great use of space! You can mount to SSDs to the back of the motherboard tray. It seems simple, but it's quite thoughtful when it comes to designing a case.

The biggest difference I see, though is the lack of 200mm fans (and subsequently, fan options) in the Switch 810. 200mm fans are not as loud as the smaller 140s or 120s, so there is a definite advantage to the Phantom there. You can move a lot of air with these 200s with less noise.

You also have a 3-speed fan switch with the 630. With the amount of air the 200s move, you may find you can turn the fan speed down even in your high-ambient temp climate.

Either case would be great, but personally, I went through the same thing when I replaced my Thermaltake Spedo case. I went down to a large local computer shop (microcenter) to see/touch all of the cases I was considering. After doing so, I chose the 630 because it has high-end quality and case features for a mid-range tower case price.


So the 630 will be better? Also im courios will my psu fit both cases?
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July 29, 2014 11:11:57 AM

I can't think of a PSU that wouldn't fit in these cases. Your VS 650 will have no problem in either case.
I have a Seasonic Platinum 1000W in my 630.

These cases are massive inside.
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July 29, 2014 11:16:57 AM

ubercake said:
I can't think of a PSU that wouldn't fit in these cases. Your VS 650 will have no problem in either case.
I have a Seasonic Platinum 1000W in my 630.

These cases are massive inside.


1000w? So you're sli? 2x or 3x? And how are the temps with sli?
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July 29, 2014 11:29:15 AM

I run two 780s, but have enough power if I would want to run 3. I also have enough power if I wanted to run something like 2x290Xs if I so choose to. I like having the flexibility plus my PSU has a 7-year warranty.

Temps with SLI are great. I just run a custom fan profile using Precision X software to force temps to stay lower at their lowest usage and highest usage. I never get above 70C (max spec is 80C) with either card and the top card is alway 5-10C hotter than the bottom card by nature. My 780s are both using stock coolers; nothing custom. It's the basic Nvidia designed card and it stays nice and cool.

I use an H80 on the CPU and that keeps my temps in the low 60s during stress/heat tests with Prime95 (50Cs while gaming in BF4 on Ultra with 4xAA) and high 20Cs while idle.
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July 29, 2014 11:32:22 AM

ubercake said:
I run two 780s, but have enough power if I would want to run 3. I also have enough power if I wanted to run something like 2x290Xs if I so choose to. I like having the flexibility plus my PSU has a 7-year warranty.

Temps with SLI are great. I just run a custom fan profile using Precision X software to force temps to stay lower at their lowest usage and highest usage. I never get above 70C (max spec is 80C) with either card and the top card is alway 5-10C hotter than the bottom card by nature. My 780s are both using stock coolers; nothing custom. It's the basic Nvidia designed card and it stays nice and cool.

I use an H80 on the CPU and that keeps my temps in the low 60s during stress/heat tests with Prime95 (50Cs while gaming in BF4 on Ultra with 4xAA) and high 20Cs while idle.


But isn't nvidia throtling at 80c?
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July 29, 2014 11:33:02 AM

I never even reach that temp.
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July 29, 2014 12:01:20 PM

ubercake said:
I never even reach that temp.


Oh still dunno which one..But its strange that the 630 cost 10$ more since its older,also will i suffer much with 2x sli on the 810 when it doesn't have rear fans?
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July 29, 2014 12:34:55 PM

Denis Stoikovski said:
ubercake said:
I never even reach that temp.


Oh still dunno which one..But its strange that the 630 cost 10$ more since its older,also will i suffer much with 2x sli on the 810 when it doesn't have rear fans?


The 810 does have a rear fan. It comes with a front, rear, internal and top 140mm fan. It just doesn't have any mounts for 200mm fans.

If you get a standard video card rather than one that blows air into your case, you don't have to worry about the rear fans so much.

Again, they're both great cases. If you like the advantages of the 630 that I've mentioned and think they're worth the extra $10, I'd say get it. If not, the 810 is not a bad choice by any means, but you would be giving up the side fan that can bring cool air in and blow directly on the video cards.
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July 29, 2014 1:32:23 PM

ubercake said:
Denis Stoikovski said:
ubercake said:
I never even reach that temp.


Oh still dunno which one..But its strange that the 630 cost 10$ more since its older,also will i suffer much with 2x sli on the 810 when it doesn't have rear fans?


The 810 does have a rear fan. It comes with a front, rear, internal and top 140mm fan. It just doesn't have any mounts for 200mm fans.

If you get a standard video card rather than one that blows air into your case, you don't have to worry about the rear fans so much.

Again, they're both great cases. If you like the advantages of the 630 that I've mentioned and think they're worth the extra $10, I'd say get it. If not, the 810 is not a bad choice by any means, but you would be giving up the side fan that can bring cool air in and blow directly on the video cards.


https://www.google.bg/search?q=nzxt+810+switch&source=l... its windowed
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July 29, 2014 1:58:12 PM

Ugh the 810 have more awards etc,but which one is newer? I saw in some vids that the 630 have like 5 fans,the 810 has 10,but it doesn't have rare..But Corsair Obsidian Series 900D is windowed and its one of the best and expensive cases? So which of those nzxt cases have more space for long gpu's and will the 810 makes my 770 sweat more than the 630?
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July 30, 2014 4:52:22 AM

They're both good cases. The 900D is in a different class. For most people, it's not worth the cost unless you're going with a full liquid-cooled PC. It's the Corvette of the Corsair cases. At any rate, the 630 and the 810 can accommodate many liquid-cooled setups as well.

Any video card will fit in the 630 or 810 even with all of the drive bays installed and even with the internal 120mm fan installed on the drive bay. There is plenty of space in these cases for anything.

I had considered getting the 900D myself, but couldn't justify the cost whatsoever for what I needed. It is a great case though.
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July 30, 2014 3:44:43 PM

630 vs 630 windowed?
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July 31, 2014 4:33:04 AM

In your case, I'd definitely get the standard 630 because of the side panel fan mounts. The windowed-edition 630 forgoes these but gives you the nice view. With your ambient temps, I'd definitely go with the case that facilitates more fans. You need to stick with something that offers as much flexibility as possible when it comes to cooling. The non-windowed version includes a 200mm fan on the side. This fan can really help you keep GPU temps under control.
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July 31, 2014 4:53:41 AM

ubercake said:
In your case, I'd definitely get the standard 630 because of the side panel fan mounts. The windowed-edition 630 forgoes these but gives you the nice view. With your ambient temps, I'd definitely go with the case that facilitates more fans. You need to stick with something that offers as much flexibility as possible when it comes to cooling. The non-windowed version includes a 200mm fan on the side. This fan can really help you keep GPU temps under control.


I'd buy the 810 but since i won't use liquid cooling for the next year.So my last questions are is really the 630 bigger than the 810? Will the 810 keep my gpu warmer then the 630? How many ssd's and hdd's can the 630 fit? Also i see there is only gunmetal in my store and since you got one how does it look? Grey or more like black? Also if i can fit 2x fans in the front do i need to remove the panel? Oh and i read that it have back led lights can i change their colors? And is it full atx or ultra tower? Thanks!
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July 31, 2014 5:43:39 AM

The 810 doesn't have the side fan mount. In your case, my biggest concern would be the lack of ventilation and airflow from the side panel. This will limit your options when it comes to fan configurations and may cause the GPUs to run hotter.

The 630 dimensions:
245mm(W) x 627mm(H) x 600mm(D)

The 810 dimensions:
235mm(W) x 605mm(H) X 577mm(D)

A lot of the difference in size in height and depth have to do with the 630 not being exactly rectangular with its angles on the top and front. The additional width on the 630 would give you about 5mm of additional clearance for an air-cooler on the CPU if you remove the side fan and an additional 5cm behind the motherboard tray for cable management.

The 630 has front HDD bays which can be configured as 1,2,3,4,5 or 6, whereas the 810 can be configured as 3 or 6. In either case, this is good because being able to remove any drive bays helps with intake fan airflow. I have only two HDDs in my 630 (my two SSDs are mounted on the back of the motherboard tray) so I use only the 2-bay cage and there is hardly anything blocking the intake of the front 200mm. You can always mount additional drives in the 5.25 bays of each case if necessary.

The rear LED lights are good when you're trying to plug things into the rear panel without sufficient lighting. You can't change the color on the 630. It is white. The lights look to be blue on the 810. Either way, the only time they are useful is when connecting things to the real panel.

The gunmetal color is nice. It is closer to black than gray and next to a black case or a monitor with a black bezel you can tell the difference otherwise, if you case is not directly next to the other components, you don't really notice the difference. And since the grills in the design are black, it all ties in nicely. I actually like the gunmetal better than the black, but it's all a matter of personal preference.

More info on the 630:
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/118-phantom-630.html

More info on the 810:
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/111-switch-810-case....
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July 31, 2014 5:57:13 AM

ubercake said:
The 810 doesn't have the side fan mount. In your case, my biggest concern would be the lack of ventilation and airflow from the side panel. This will limit your options when it comes to fan configurations and may cause the GPUs to run hotter.

The 630 dimensions:
245mm(W) x 627mm(H) x 600mm(D)

The 810 dimensions:
235mm(W) x 605mm(H) X 577mm(D)

A lot of the difference in size in height and depth have to do with the 630 not being exactly rectangular with its angles on the top and front. The additional width on the 630 would give you about 5mm of additional clearance for an air-cooler on the CPU if you remove the side fan and an additional 5cm behind the motherboard tray for cable management.

The 630 has front HDD bays which can be configured as 1,2,3,4,5 or 6, whereas the 810 can be configured as 3 or 6. In either case, this is good because being able to remove any drive bays helps with intake fan airflow. I have only two HDDs in my 630 (my two SSDs are mounted on the back of the motherboard tray) so I use only the 2-bay cage and there is hardly anything blocking the intake of the front 200mm. You can always mount additional drives in the 5.25 bays of each case if necessary.

The rear LED lights are good when you're trying to plug things into the rear panel without sufficient lighting. You can't change the color on the 630. It is white. The lights look to be blue on the 810. Either way, the only time they are useful is when connecting things to the real panel.

The gunmetal color is nice. It is closer to black than gray and next to a black case or a monitor with a black bezel you can tell the difference otherwise, if you case is not directly next to the other components, you don't really notice the difference. And since the grills in the design are black, it all ties in nicely. I actually like the gunmetal better than the black, but it's all a matter of personal preference.

More info on the 630:
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/118-phantom-630.html

More info on the 810:
http://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/111-switch-810-case....

Thank you so much! Will purchase the gunmetal 630(if they have black i'd get it cause i like black) and some fans.Thank you again!
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July 31, 2014 6:18:24 AM

No problem. You'll see how easy it is to work with the 630. Most cases don't impress me, but this one does.
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July 31, 2014 6:56:29 AM

Purchased!
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August 1, 2014 3:58:14 AM

Gosh those bulgarian firms are retards. Today the case arrived and before that on the phone i told them that i wan't the rear fan edition not the windowed so when the case arrived i opened it in front of the courier and it WAS the windowed edition whine on the nzxt box its said and there is a huge picture of the 630 when you can see if its with big window or small window with big fan .So the case was on promotion of 266 leva which is like 180$ as i know and my budged is 176$ from today the promotion is over and from now on the case price is 306 which is waaaaay outta my budged so i called them and they told me i have to pay 306 leva which is insane cause i purchased the case yesterday when it was on promotion its not my fault that they didn't saw that its the windowed edition.. Note Bulgarians are as****** and if you ever go to Bulgaria never purchase something online especially from Emag: http://www.emag.bg/ this cr**** cite!
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August 1, 2014 4:59:12 AM

All is not lost! The windowed edition looks cool and you can definitely make due. Just make sure you add a 140mm at the top. To give yourself clearance for the top front fan, mount your DVD drive in one of the lower drive bays rather than the top most.

Also, you might want to go with an AIO cooler such as an H80i for the CPU. That can keep a lot of the heat from blowing around the case. Additionally, stock coolers, the kind that exhaust out of the back of the card might be the way to go for your so you don't have a lot of heat blowing around in the case. You can even mount the internal fan if you use the 3-bay drive cage to help with temps.
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August 1, 2014 7:15:34 AM

ubercake said:
All is not lost! The windowed edition looks cool and you can definitely make due. Just make sure you add a 140mm at the top. To give yourself clearance for the top front fan, mount your DVD drive in one of the lower drive bays rather than the top most.

Also, you might want to go with an AIO cooler such as an H80i for the CPU. That can keep a lot of the heat from blowing around the case. Additionally, stock coolers, the kind that exhaust out of the back of the card might be the way to go for your so you don't have a lot of heat blowing around in the case. You can even mount the internal fan if you use the 3-bay drive cage to help with temps.


Well i'd buy it if i used liquid cooling but... They said it will arrive next day will report back!
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August 4, 2014 1:58:19 AM

They got only the windowed edition,what should i do? Will i have heat problems?
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August 4, 2014 3:57:49 AM

See how it goes. You have a ton of options for fan configurations with that case even though you won't have the side fan. I really think the windowed version of the case looks a lot nicer too.

You have 3 fan speeds on the case with 2x200mm fans (front and top) connected to the case power connections. With the rear 140 you should get great airflow with the three fans alone.
Just crank up the speed as necessary.

Invest in an additional top 140mm and internal 140mm only if necessary.

If your components stay under their max temps with what you have, just go with it.
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August 4, 2014 4:58:45 AM

ubercake said:
See how it goes. You have a ton of options for fan configurations with that case even though you won't have the side fan. I really think the windowed version of the case looks a lot nicer too.

You have 3 fan speeds on the case with 2x200mm fans (front and top) connected to the case power connections. With the rear 140 you should get great airflow with the three fans alone.
Just crank up the speed as necessary.

Invest in an additional top 140mm and internal 140mm only if necessary.

If your components stay under their max temps with what you have, just go with it.


I have no choice though so it shall arrive tomorow for its 3 time lol,those lying bulgarians.. Thanks!
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August 4, 2014 4:47:23 PM

Btw can i put other fan brands except nzxt in the 630 like cooler master corsair etc?
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August 5, 2014 4:05:29 AM

Any fans can be from any brand. I haven't replaced my 200s, but have heard you want to stick with the Xigmateks on the 200s because of the mounts. The case's fan headers can run any fans you might want to install. Also, the white fan blades on the the included fans really reflect color from fans with LEDs nicely. I have Xigmatek fans with green LEDs on my H80's radiator mounted to the top front of the case and the rear 140mm fan absorbs the green pretty well.
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