Building Gaming PC (NEED HELP WITH COMPATIBILITY AND PARTPICKING)

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Okay so I'm done with this Asus laptop of mine. It's a great laptop and all, but I'm dying here having to put everything at medium so I can play with good frames. So I'm selling it and building a PC from scratch! Keep in mind I am sort of a rookie at these things.

Current Laptop: http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-G75VW-DH71-17-Inch-Laptop-Black/dp/B009AEW6I6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406672402&sr=8-1&keywords=ASUS+G75Vw-DH71

So this is what I have picked out.

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116940&cm_re=intel_i7-_-19-116-940-_-Product

Graphics Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130958

MOBO: Not sure what to pick with these guys! I really don't want to spend a bunch on my Motherboard but if it's worth it I'll get it. I was looking at the Asus Maximus Mobos and they look promising.

RAM: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-PC3-12800-1600mHz-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B/dp/B004QBUL1C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406673144&sr=8-1&keywords=corsair+vengeance+8gb
(Not sure but everyone says Corsair is great)

Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=ppssGamingHDD-_-22-236-625-_-Product

SSD: Not buying an SSD until later, I want to reduce the impact of buying this computer so I'll be getting upgrades like the SSD later... I'd like to know a couple good ones anyway!

Case: Rather hold off until I get the parts situated. Suggestions?

Power: Like I said, I am a rookie. So I need to add up the amount of power all the parts take and buy a supply according to the amount (a little bit over the total) ? Don't even know where to start.

Cooling & DVD Drive: I will be scavenging this from an old computer. Although, in the future I'm certain I will need an upgrade for cooling. So, any suggestions? No watercooling because I probably won't keep up with the maintenance :lol:

BUDGET I will be selling the laptop for one thousand. So $1,000 plus maybe $300 will be a total of $1,300. Trying to keep it around there. (Hopefully less! :lol:) I know there's a lot of parts missing, but hopefully you can help me fill in these parts! Thank you.
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($232.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z87-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($75.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($95.97 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1149.89


This is what i would get. I'd add an SSD in there but you suggested that you didn't want to buy it until later. I suggest you buy one now so you wont have to reinstall windows onto the SSD.
 
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The i7-4820k doesn't give enough gaming benefit to justify getting it instead of an i5-4670K or i5-4690K (especially since the motherboard would be more expensive).
I'm not sure why you'd buy a refurbished GTX 770 when a new one can be found for about $20 more.
Corsair is a good brand for ram, but the kit you selected has tall heatspreaders, limiting your choices for cpu heatsinks.
Your hard drive choice is okay.
For power, the rule of thumb is 650W for a single gpu or 850W for dual gpu (including if you plan to add the second gpu later), but make sure it's from a good brand and series (the tiered psu list will help with that: https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true )
I presume you also need OS, monitor, and peripherals, so here is my initial suggestion:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($319.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.99 @ Mwave)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Best Buy)
Keyboard: Logitech MK120 Wired Slim Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($14.98 @ Amazon)
Speakers: Creative Labs Inspire T10 10W 2ch Speakers ($39.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $1298.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-29 19:29 EDT-0400
 
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Here's a build that should be really good for your budget:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($115.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($489.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1302.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-29 19:33 EDT-0400

The PSU is overkill, but for $85 there is NOTHING better.
The GTX 780 is more powerful than the 770 you listed. The ram is faster and cheaper.
I chose a nice case, but cases are a personal choice, so you might not like that one.
For $115 this motherboard is great.
The HDD is double the size, but the same price as the one you listed. (Seagate drives are very good, and reliable, so no need to go with a black drive.)
You could also go with an r9 290X for the GPU for about the same performance, or an r9 290 if you want to save some money.

As for the CPU cooler recommendation it depends on what you want to pay, a Hyper 212 Evo is a good budget option, the NH-D14 is a big step up, the NH-d15 is the best air cooler, and for about the same price you can get the H110 which performs only slightly better.
 
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I went with this processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=i7+3930&N=-1&isNodeId=1
and this MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128562&cm_re=x79_up4-_-13-128-562-_-Product
there is also an open box version for 203. there http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128562R&cm_re=x79_up4-_-13-128-562R-_-Product
I went with this case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008J0ZOF4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
if you have to go and mow lawns to get the extra money for this case, DO IT! It is well worth the extra cost, it is mounted at 90degrees offset to have the heat flow up and out and the graphics card is vertical not horizintal like in other cases. the cooling is great and I use a
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler not liquid cooling.

for SSD I like Samsung best.
 
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just get a 4930k for that price. that mobo is good but asus has better mobos around that price. theres other case but that case does have that unique feature but you could get a different case and exhaust air out the back with fan(much more efficent)
 
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I'd still take the 3930 over the 4930 for the turbo 3.8 ghz vs 3.4 ghz giving an additional 2.4 ghz throughput for faster calculations. and it's just 20 bucks more.
As for the case, if you have built a system in one you understand why the bottom to top airflow is superior to front to back, plus you don't have to crawl around the backside to make connections, it's all on top. I loved it so much I got a second for my wife's build. :)
 
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did you copy that from wikipedia lol. anyways he could always overclock but if he doesnt i guess he could get the 3930k.
 
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These are all amazing! I dozed off so I couldn't reply to all of you as soon as you posted..sorry. So I'll put it all in one.
First of all THANK YOU ALL I have learned so much.
Motherboard will not be MSI by the way, they've had problems lately.
I always thought that if I get Intel, go for the Nvidia. If I get AMD don't go with Nvidia. Anyway story time over. New budget. MAX is $1400 No way over that

CPU: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k Will this i7 work? If not I'll go with the http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k
GPU: It's the GTX 780 vs the R9 290X. If it helps, Main Games-[Battlefield 4, Battlefield 3] Next: Assassins Creed (Nvidia wins there), Need for Speed, DAYZ....
Cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608045
MOBO: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fatal1tyz97killer
RAM: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml8gx3m2a1600c9g vs. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32133c9d8gxl
Hard Drive: I was fascinated by the fact that the Drive that I chose was "for gaming" and had all these cool gadgets. Now looking at the Seagate, it has more space and the same price. Seagate is reliable too, I know. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236625&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=ppssGamingHDD-_-22-236-625-_-Product vs http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001
Case: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-200r
Power: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650xxxb9 (I'll downshift to a 650. A. Don't wanna kill the elec. bills B. Power in my house is funky)
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147247

Shouldn't be forgetting anything.
Should I get a network adapter?
Soundcard?
Also, I need room to breathe with the monitor/keyboard. I have a mouse that will do until I get a Razer. I need a 1080p monitor (4K in the future (;), and I need a good reliable keyboard. Something like a Logitech. I've done some looking and picking but I'm no pro. THANK YOU
 
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For the network adapter question, if you can connect to the network with a cable, the motherboard includes the interface for that. If you need Wi-Fi, you'll need a separate adapter (either USB or PCIe).

I don't think you need a sound card, since that mobo already has enough audio outputs for 5.1 surround.

As far as the monitor, there are so many 1080p monitors out there that you'll need to be more specific about what you want in the monitor before I can really give you a recommendation.

For the keyboard, if you're okay with rubber dome actuators (instead of "mechanical" keyswitches), and don't need extra gaming keys or media buttons, I suggest you just get a Logitech K120.
 
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Okay a network adapter it is.

As for the monitor, a 120Hz seems great but is it really worth it compared to a 60Hz? For the frames I'll be getting I'm guessing the 120Hz. Not sure if it makes a difference. Is that what you meant by Specific? haha.

Keyboard. I just need something that's reliable and will work until I get a "gaming keyboard" so whatever works well. I will take suggestions on a gaming keyboard though. Might as well get it done now :D
 
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WHAT WAS I THINKING? I quickly put those together, without the PC Part Picker (which is fabulous by the way haha)

This is a new and updated setup: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gJpC4D

So any suggestions or changes or problems?

I was hoping I could get the 290X but it doesn't look possible. Anyway can I swap some parts to get the 290X or is it just a long shot? I can go for a regular 290. I think the performance is better that the 770 I chose, not sure.

Much appreciated. :)
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290X 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($459.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1308.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-30 06:37 EDT-0400
There you go.
 
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Not including monitor/adapter card. With those 2 it comes to 1467.3. Not including a new keyboard (but that's not much) Over my budget....
Plus the Hyper 212 is LOUD compared to the D15/D14. Unless of course I won't be able to hear it with headphones on...
So I'm guessing the 290X still wins over the 4 GB 770?
I will go and mow lawns if having a louder fan and a 290X is better than a 770 4GB with a quiet fan.
Lastly, on the mobos, is the 4 dollars for the ASrock really worth it?

Thank you very much :)
 
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You will definitely not hear it with your headphones on, I have built a PC for a friend with a hyper 212 evo, and it is audible but barely. The 290X definitely wins over the 4 gig 770, but the 770 is still a good card, you could go for an R9 290 too, it sits in between the 770 and 780 or 280x and 290x. The asrock is the better motherboard and it's usually more expensive, around $130 if I remember correctly. You could go with a cheaper case too if you want to save some money, the fractal design define r4 is for 80 bucks, and it's gonna be quieter than the 750D.
Update: the asrock was actually 115 yesterday, my bad, I would go with the asrock anyway, it's still the better motherboard, IMO.
 
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Okay, staying with the D15 because my room tends to get toasty. Rather not risk it.

So I have everything down except for the Graphics card. I LONG and DREAM for a 290X BUT it's over my budget with the parts I'm going with. The GTX 770 4GB is still a great choice but I want to squeeze in as much juice as I can.
So the 290X is out of the picture along with the GTX 780.

So it came down to the EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual FTW ACX and the MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR

Either one is in my budget range, just need to pick one of the two.

Thank you:)
 
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Okay. I really want to put the final setup together and post it to see if anyone can suggest something better or possibly get me to the 290X (which I think is out of my reach) by swapping things and call it a day, but one more question.

Does what game I run change performance? For example I play LOTS of Battlefield. It's my main game. So there, the AMD shines. BUT I also play Assassins Creed (well I'm waiting for this new PC to play it) I'd like to run Watch Dogs, Need For Speed, Skyrim... Will the AMD run certain games better than the Nvidia will? and vice versa?
 
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Wow! Thank you so much! I wish I could give you a badge or something haha. (but I can't..I don't think...)
I truly am grateful for you helping me and all that good stuff...enough ass kiss for today. :lol: Thank you, really. Before I pick you as solution, I think I should post the end setup and have the others judge and pick and suggest..etc (and thank you all as a whole)
:D:)

*I forgot to mention.
Is there a way to get a used R9 290X? Would it be worth it?
 
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You could get a used r9 290x, it would be just as good, if you don't mind buying used. I know a lot of them were sold recently with the currency mining crisis, or something like that. ^^ (Not too sure, and can't do my research as I'm on my phone)
 
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Okay I looked it up on Amazon. I really only found two.

SVGA Sapphire Radeon R9 290X BF4 Edition 4GB Used Like New - $359

POWERCOLOR AXR9 290X 4GBD5-MDHG/OC / PowerColor AMD Radeon R9 290X 4GB GDDR5 OC 2DVIHDMIDisplayPort PCI-Express Video Card w Battlefield 4 Coupon Used Very Good - $309

Which one will perform better? Will it be worth it? and LASTLY (if I could get some personal feedback, it would be much appreciated...) Would you buy either of these two graphic cards? In their condition and from this site..etc? Currency mining crisis? Thank you.
(Included specs and price in title because you are on your phone :lol:)
 
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