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July 30, 2014 4:31:18 AM

budget 1500 dollars will need many explanations please unbiased if possible. ok planning on gaming and possibly streaming on twitch for a hobby, also do video editing here and there and use itunes or equivalent. i am new to building, this will be my first build so simple can be a plus. if i absolutely need to i will go over budget a little but hoping to stick to it. Thanks ahead of time

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July 30, 2014 5:16:06 AM

This build will let you overclock very well, it almost certainly has a better graphics card and all the components are about as good as you can get without paying extreme amounts, plus it is a bit cheaper as well

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.79 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1414.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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July 30, 2014 5:29:13 AM

Nuckles_56 said:
This build will let you overclock very well, it almost certainly has a better graphics card and all the components are about as good as you can get without paying extreme amounts, plus it is a bit cheaper as well

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.79 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1414.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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I was thinking maybe more of a intel/Nividia setup?
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July 30, 2014 5:32:24 AM

Sure, the two builds should perform almost exactly the same

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.79 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($462.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1487.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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July 30, 2014 5:42:55 AM

Nuckles_56 said:
Sure, the two builds should perform almost exactly the same

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.79 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($462.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1487.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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i am interested in playing games such as Day Z and maybe a little video editing at times how would these handle such tasks. i may spend a little more to have better gameplay experience.
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July 30, 2014 5:45:30 AM

This setup will kill all games at 1080p at ultra, to the point that you might as well go to a 144Hz monitor to make the best use of it, if you were planning on doing more video editing, then it would be worthwhile going to an i7 and 16GB of RAM
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July 30, 2014 5:55:02 AM

Would it be worth it to buy a larger case since this will be the first time building for myself?
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July 30, 2014 5:58:59 AM

I am yet to hear of people having a problem with that case and it is probably the most common case to see put on builds in this forum so I wouldn't be worried
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July 30, 2014 6:01:29 AM

is there any way i could make a mistake whilst actually assembling the build?
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July 30, 2014 7:04:14 AM

easiest mistake to make is to screw up the thermal paste for the CPU cooler, after that, not putting the RAM fully in, and failing to connect up a cable correctly or didn't push it in far enough, just little things like that. Also failing to make sure that you have grounded yourself before handling components and causing electrostatic discharge to fry the components
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July 30, 2014 7:20:16 AM

i upgraded my ram in this macbook and studied the best way to not have electrostatic discharge so im good there. thermal paste sounds like it could be a little iffy but the rest i shouldnt have a problem with. thank you Nuckles_56 i like the build im gonna wait a few days and see if anyone else has any suggestions. if not i will go with one of yours for sure thanks for your time. i updated it im thinking of doing some livestreaming to twitch would this build still be fine for that, since there would be more multitasking?
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July 30, 2014 6:04:09 PM

Would it be safe to go ahead and get an I 7 for future proofing or is overclocking the way to go?
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July 30, 2014 8:27:44 PM

At this point in time, I would go down the overclocking path as games aren't looking like they are going to use more than an i5 for a while, it also depends on what you feel confident with as well
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July 31, 2014 2:15:39 AM

I'm not familiar with overclocking. I understand a little about it but I think I may go ahead with the I7 just for the safety net with the streaming and running games at a higher quality.
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July 31, 2014 2:22:32 AM

Fair enough, overclocking isn't for everyone and I can understand the advantages as well
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July 31, 2014 4:02:53 AM

you seem to know a good deal about all of this so thanks for sharing the knowledge. If i get the 4770k i would be able to overclock in the future and im not sure how an overclocked i7 performs but just and idea if in the future i needed to
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July 31, 2014 4:08:52 AM

I would spend the extra few dollars and get the i7-4790k instead as it is a faster CPU (so you are less likely to need to overclock) and overclocks better as well. With the cooler you have got, I would say that you should be able to overclock the CPU from 4GHz to probably 4.5-4.6GHz without too much trouble
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July 31, 2014 5:45:04 AM

For one, you don't need the network card as the one which is on the motherboard will do just as good a job and I put in a better power supply which will have more than enough wattage unless you intend to put another GPU in SLI in the future (if you do, then get this power supply instead http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g2085... ) Also a disk drive will make it easier to install everything you need on your computer.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($203.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.79 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1519.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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July 31, 2014 5:50:38 AM

Sorry to interrupt, you may have a look at this setup:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper N520 43.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z87 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.02 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($184.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate SV35.5 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($90.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($272.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Cooler Master i700 700W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: HP DVD1265I DVD/CD Writer ($39.99 @ Best Buy)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($128.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1559.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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-i7 4790K @4 GHz, 16 GB RAM, 4 GB GTX 760, 256 GB SSD + 2 TB HDD.
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July 31, 2014 5:59:29 AM

silly question but why such a weak GPU @MeteorsRaining? and besides, there is very little advantage to going with the 840 pro SSD as well, it is almost the same as the 840 EVO and costs more. Also why a motherboard with the z87 chipset? Seeings as it won't be able to handle the broadwell processors which are going to come out next. Also you aren't using the best power supply either, there are much better ones
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July 31, 2014 6:07:25 AM

ok nuckles sounds good didnt know if the motherboard had integrated networking forgot to look. also is the different cooler ok? do i need to purchase thermal paste since it doesnt say that its included. anything particularly bad about the case?
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July 31, 2014 6:09:28 AM

You may invest the ~$100 taken out from SSD in the graphics to get 4GB GTX 770 which I hope would be good enough :)  Also, the Power Supply may be interchanged by SeaSonic. And as per the Mobo, I didn't see the need to upgrade the CPU, since it has a lot of power currently and for future! :D 
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July 31, 2014 6:15:09 AM

Easy mistake to make really, the 212 EVO is one of the most common coolers out there, it isn't the best cooler out there for Haswell CPUs like the one what you are lloking at getting but it will still do an excellent job no matter what. It should have thermal paste included, but if it doesn't, thermal paste is a cheap and easy thing to get. As for the case, I am pretty sure that you will be just fine :D 
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July 31, 2014 6:18:16 AM

Yes it is, silly mistake mine. And yes I'm in love with that case! :D 

Update: sorry didn't see jcrisp's reply before me!
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July 31, 2014 6:27:42 AM

also do i need a sound card?
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July 31, 2014 6:32:00 AM

The motherboard has its own sound card which will do just fine unless you are one of those audiophiles who expect the absolutely perfect sound no matter what :p 
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July 31, 2014 6:34:29 AM

And as for your friend, he has a good build, and the only change I am making is to the power supply as the rest is excellent unless he plans on overclocking too http://pcpartpicker.com/p/kGfqP6
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July 31, 2014 6:40:57 AM

he said he will definetly use that build. thanks for every bit of your help. plus he got ideas for his build from your lists above. i will be building this build you posted above. will pick it as solution if that helps you at all nuckles_56.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($203.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($88.79 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($98.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/RSBS DVD/CD Writer ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1519.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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July 31, 2014 6:42:23 AM

No worries, glad to be of assistance
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July 31, 2014 6:49:42 AM

For your build, I would do a couple of changes:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($203.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($429.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1494.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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It has better RAM, better PSU, cheaper HDD but just as good, and that's about it.
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July 31, 2014 6:58:53 AM

And some similar changes to your friend's build: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($95.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill RNX-N150PCe 802.11b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($12.55 @ Amazon)
Total: $1170.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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July 31, 2014 7:04:55 AM

Ytyoussef, just a comment, there is not real advantage to faster RAM over low CL number RAM, seeing as the CL number has a greater effect on performance than the actual MHz value of the RAM and the ones which were in the systems were CL7 which means it as fast as 2133MHz CL 9 RAM
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July 31, 2014 7:13:13 AM

Nuckles_56 said:
Ytyoussef, just a comment, there is not real advantage to faster RAM over low CL number RAM, seeing as the CL number has a greater effect on performance than the actual MHz value of the RAM and the ones which were in the systems were CL7 which means it as fast as 2133MHz CL 9 RAM

I know that, but the one I posted is quite a bit cheaper, so that makes it better overall, doesn't it?

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July 31, 2014 7:15:19 AM

I wouldn't say that $25 in a $1500 is quite a bit, if it was $100, maybe :p 
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July 31, 2014 7:21:02 AM

Nuckles_56 said:
I wouldn't say that $25 in a $1500 is quite a bit, if it was $100, maybe :p 
It's 15% of the price of the ram (there's about a $10 difference between the two), and they're basically the same in terms of performance. What I mean, is that you don't need to pay more for nothing.

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July 31, 2014 9:22:27 AM

just purchased all the parts for my build now we play the waiting game.
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August 4, 2014 11:10:43 PM

Just an update I have received some parts and I will receive the rest in the next and then I will try to post some pictures of the build as I go through the process.

Parts I have:
Case.
Video card.
Power supply.
Operating system.

Waiting on the rest..
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August 5, 2014 3:17:02 AM

We'll be glad to see and help you through the process.
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August 6, 2014 10:05:23 PM

Ok I have completed the build. I will take some pictures when I get home and post so everyone can see. Pretty easy to build just gotta do a little more cable management. L

I have booted it and everything is in working order and ready to go. I installed the is and every driver that came with components but I am having a problem.

Problem: everything is installing to my SSD and when downloading or installing it gives me no option to download to the secondary hard drive. Any help would be appreciated.
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August 7, 2014 7:53:37 PM

I have figured out my hard drive issue just needed to partition a drive. And also it doesn't let me upload pics from my phone
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