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Hey Everyone,

So I have been to multiple sites about this problem and there is no solution in sight. In many games I run lower fps than I should and my tech friends tell me something is wrong too. So I am not completely crazy. Here are some examples:

On World of Tanks (which I know does not support multi-cores) I get about 30-50 FPS (usually around 35-40) on any setting between Medium-Max, aka the improved graphics settings.

On WarThunder, I can drop to about 30-35 fps on any map from 60fps (which is my top fps, no v-sync) on high, max, or movie.

On Planetside 2, I have trouble reaching 60 fps on medium graphics.

And on many games I just do not see much better performance than even my laptop. And this worries me. My GPU drivers are up to date and it appears all the motherboard drivers are up to date. My Novabench score is only 1244 which kind of scares me. I really need some help. I suspect my processor, but I am just not great enough at computers to know truly.

Thank you for the help.

 
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Could you run world of tanks windowed and/or War Thunder, then keep an eye on your GPU load/corespeed and CPU load, see which component gets stressed when the low frames happen.

If your GPU load is 99-100%, you're running 100-110% TDP and/or your vram mem controller reaches 80-100%, then your card simply isn't "fast" enough. It could also be a Vram issue, check if that reaches near the 2GB limit, which would be pretty rare in World of Tanks unless you run 8xMSAA and 1440p+.
I use TechPwerUp GPU-Z 0.7.8 on the sensors tab to watch my GFX card.


However if your CPU suddenly goes to something like 70-100% then that's your culprit. I use task manager for watching the CPU
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I mean the game settings. Also, this has been happening essentially since the computer has been built. I just did not realize at first that it should run better.

I checked the V-Sync in the control panel and it said "use 3D application settings". I clicked "off" anyways and I'll see what it does.
 
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I have checked the temperatures before. My GPU reaches between 60-70 degrees Celsius when playing intense games and my CPU stays around 20-30 degrees Celsius.

 
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All sounds reasonable, one other thing you might try is this:

http://postimg.org/image/7j3yx6cbb/

Set it to "Prefer Maximum Performance"

This is rarely the culprit, but I've seen it cause some trouble, if it has no effect, turn it back to adaptive, saves you power and lifetime on the card in the long run.
 
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Thanks for responding.

I did try that and wondered if it would improve performance, but sadly it did not. I do not wish to buy another motherboard and an Intel processor so soon, but there is still something fishy about this.

Turning off the V-Sync did not do much. In small areas I still get my highs (60-75 fps) but I still encounter heavy drops (30-40 fps) in game like Warthunder and World of Tanks when entering large areas with lots of grass and foliage. I wonder if it may be my memory but I do not have any other heavy processes running.
 
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I am a bit more suspicious of your PSU as it is a lower tier psu, but if everything is stock settings, it should be able to support the system. As for temperatures, how are the temperatures of the motherboard VRMs and what not?
 
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Thanks for responding.

I have never looked up my Motherboard VRN temperatures. How would I do so? I tend to use CoreTemp and SpeedFan for temperature programs.

I do have HW monitor but I do not know how to find that specific temperature.

There are 3 temps under the motherboard:

(TMPIN0) Temp: 31 Celsius
(TMPIN1) Temp: 35 Celsius
(TMPIN2) Temp: 20 Celsius

This is when I am only on Chrome. Hope that helps
 
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Could you run world of tanks windowed and/or War Thunder, then keep an eye on your GPU load/corespeed and CPU load, see which component gets stressed when the low frames happen.

If your GPU load is 99-100%, you're running 100-110% TDP and/or your vram mem controller reaches 80-100%, then your card simply isn't "fast" enough. It could also be a Vram issue, check if that reaches near the 2GB limit, which would be pretty rare in World of Tanks unless you run 8xMSAA and 1440p+.
I use TechPwerUp GPU-Z 0.7.8 on the sensors tab to watch my GFX card.


However if your CPU suddenly goes to something like 70-100% then that's your culprit. I use task manager for watching the CPU
 
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Thank you so much for the help.

I could not do World of Tanks because of an update I cannot do tonight but I will download it tomorrow. I did do Warthunder.

The GPU hit load percentage around 88-96 percent. The VRam hit at max 1500mb. The CPU usage barely hit 40% usage.

So it does seem that it is the GPU, or at least for Warthunder and probably other games with multi-core support. It is sad because it is a good GFX card and I was hoping I could push it. Now I am not as disappointed as it may seem. It is still quite an improvement from my laptop. I guess the solution now would be to look to the future and see about getting a better card later on. I may overclock , but there are risks and I have heard some scary stories. Anyways thanks for the help and now I do not have to stress over an unknown problem. I will post the W.O.T. results sometime tomorrow evening to get a confirmation that it is my GPU, but that game does only support a single-core currently. I will test many games.

Thanks again,

Leopard
 
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Don't be overly scared of O.C.'ing that card, the temps are good and overall the cooler is great. Take it 5MHz at a time on the core, use ASUS GPU Tweak, Nvidia Inspector's overclocking or perhaps a program came with your card on the CD, just remember to update it. Basically, if you take it slow, start by increasing "power target status"/TDP to 110%, that right there will give 5-8% performance(watch the temps), after that start adding 5 Mhz to the core, run unigine Heaven, Unigine valley, furmark(this one is pure torture) for 30 minutes to an hour, rinse and repeat, don't go more than 3/4 of the way up in GPU core voltage, do vram O.C. last. Once you hit the cap, and the driver is reset by windows, dial down 5Mhz, run the tests again, if it's stable, you're good to go.

One word of caution if you use MSI Afterburner, uninstall it before you update your drivers, then re-install after the driver update, I've had go bonkers once and set my old GTX 680 to something like 6000 MHz core speed, when it attempted to set the clocks I had set before the driver update. Nothing happened to my card, but whenever I got into windows it would freeze. xD Don't know if that was a fluke, but ever since then, when I upgrade drivers, I uninstall any program that is set to activate improved frequencies on my GFX cards. Also, decide on any ONE program and stick to that, don't use multiple.

My guess is, you can easily squeeze another 10-15% out of it.

Also, this thread is open, got a question? Ask away.
 
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I think I am good. Thanks!

I'll look into what I can do. I have Gigabyte OverClock Guru for my OC program. I may not use that program, and I shall ask around and see what success people have had with OC-ing that specific card.

Thanks again,

Leopard
 
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I would advise against any heavy overclocking with your PSU. If you're overclocking, only do light overclocking, because your PSU have some capacitors that aren't higher quality ones.

As for GPU overclocking, just use whatever program your gpu comes with, it's less of a headache in my opinion to go around searching and what not. If you want to use MSi Afterburner, it's still fine.

As for how to start, I suggest a 50Mhz bump first if your card isn't factory overclocked. If is, then go with a 25Mhz, if stable, go another 25, etc. Just take it very slow on the overclocking, just overclock it a bit a day or something and just play a game. If you hit an unstable point, go down 5Mhz at a time until you hit a stable point.
 
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Thanks for the tip!

Yeah my GPU is factory overclocked and I probably will OC with the standard program, if I do. Thanks for all the help, too.
 
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